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Doc Sportello

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56. Sooo predictable

Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:54 AM

Aug 9

The majority of responses here would be funny if they weren't so sad and destructive to unity. Fact is, Biden tacked left to where Sanders and Elizabeth Warren wanted to go and the country is better off for it. But instead of giving credit, we get an all too expected response of noooo can't be Bernie was right. Or Warren for that matter, who deserves a lot of credit for many of the policies Biden has followed. Repeating 2016 isn't just for the media.

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As a Bernie guy [View all] TheSocialDem Aug 8 OP

This is a Biden ticket n/t emulatorloo Aug 8 #1

Thank-you. JohnSJ Aug 9 #89

I agree LetMyPeopleVote Aug 9 #103

This is not a Bernie ticket. Bev54 Aug 8 #2

Agreed but... BrianTheEVGuy Aug 9 #42

This is part 2 of Joe Biden's effort to Save the Soul of America. He passed the torch during a terrific... Hekate Aug 8 #3

He did. Biden was hugely progressive TheSocialDem Aug 8 #4

Biden is a Democrat from birth, and his lifetime in the Senate taught him the Art of the Possible Hekate Aug 8 #9

Then you know nothing about Kamala Harris obamanut2012 Aug 9 #82

President Biden is a Democrat who knows how to get things done, lapucelle Aug 9 #139

It is a democratic ticket and y'll can't quit trying to take ownership LizBeth Aug 8 #5

lol who's "y'all " TheSocialDem Aug 8 #6

Yup JI7 Aug 9 #31

correct obamanut2012 Aug 9 #84

The ticket should be appealing to Bernie people but it is a Democratic ticket. TomSlick Aug 8 #7

Agreed! TheSocialDem Aug 8 #8

I beg to differ. sheshe2 Aug 8 #10

Ironic, the dismissive "identity politics" "I'm a woman, vote for me" thing. betsuni Aug 9 #40

Exactly, betsuni. sheshe2 Aug 9 #57

Yep LizBeth Aug 9 #60

What? You don't understand the significance of he first woman president? LymphocyteLover Aug 10 #211

Don't understand what you mean. betsuni Aug 10 #217

And I didn't understand your comment that I replied to LymphocyteLover Aug 11 #279

Belief that Democrats ignored the white working class and had no economic plans, only identity politics betsuni Aug 12 #281

Oh OK, thanks. I don't disagree with any of that LymphocyteLover Aug 12 #282

Love this photo! mcar Aug 9 #67

💙 sheshe2 Aug 9 #71

Today Biden is president. It's his administration. LakeArenal Aug 9 #88

Perfect! LizBeth Aug 9 #102

She will have her team (Tim will be in it, of course). Justice matters. Aug 11 #251

Walz is his own candidate. He's different than any candidate to date. LakeArenal Aug 11 #269

I think so too. And every VP should or does follow the Pres. Harris will implement her own. LizBeth Aug 11 #272

Thank You..n/t asuhornets Aug 10 #213

.... LexVegas Aug 8 #11

... sheshe2 Aug 8 #12

I bet you were one of the people losing it about people TheSocialDem Aug 8 #13

IKR! Cha Aug 8 #15

NO WAY.. As Others have posted on the Thread Cha Aug 8 #14

What doubters...folks on this forum have been happy with the conduct of our candidates. And it is not Demsrule86 Aug 9 #16

NOPE Skittles Aug 9 #17

Not! oasis Aug 9 #18

No. Not one bit. murielm99 Aug 9 #19

No. KH: "We will continue to fight for affordable housing, affordable health care, affordable child care, paid leave." betsuni Aug 9 #20

Amen Sister! Cha Aug 9 #22

It's so annoying, which is obviously the point. We're supposed to get real mad. betsuni Aug 9 #33

Yeah, didn't read the temperature of the Room! Cha Aug 9 #35

Feels a bit like arguing the last primaries. LakeArenal Aug 9 #110

This is the most progressive ticket of my lifetime TheSocialDem Aug 9 #24

2008, 2016, 2020, 2024 -- all the most progressive party platform in history. betsuni Aug 9 #27

Yeah, Pres Joe Biden and VP Harris are Progressives who GET IT DONE. Cha Aug 9 #37

And, they are solid Democrats! mcar Aug 9 #69

Yes Democrats who Make Super Important Progress! Cha Aug 9 #104

LBJ/Humphrey and McGovern/Shriver Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #181

Even here people just have to put a man in the spotlight edisdead Aug 9 #21

Lmao you're trying way too hard to find sexism TheSocialDem Aug 9 #23

no Skittles Aug 9 #26

You're the one who tried to take it away from VP Harris and it's Cha Aug 9 #32

No I'm not. edisdead Aug 9 #54

Maybe you just ignore it too easily. LizBeth Aug 9 #62

Lmao, keep digging mcar Aug 9 #70

This is sexism -- it is a Harris ticket, not Bernie ticket obamanut2012 Aug 9 #85

Not all that hard Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #182

Right? Have to work really hard not to see. Hand in the face to shut up and if LizBeth Aug 10 #219

it's a......load of BS Skittles Aug 9 #25

, Mahalo! Cha Aug 9 #28

Has he acknowledge Harris stands with working class and not just the old white men like Biden LizBeth Aug 9 #61

No it's not JI7 Aug 9 #29

and any who fail to recognize the close relations between a Bernie ticket and a Biden ticket are elleng Aug 9 #30

Who are you calling "Foolish".?. This is VP Harris' and Gov Walz' "TICKET". Cha Aug 9 #34

'And finally Dems are embracing common sense,' elleng Aug 9 #36

No Dems have had it All Along! Too bad you had to go for Cha Aug 9 #38

Sorry, personal insult not intended, elleng Aug 9 #39

So? maybe we just don't Cha Aug 9 #41

Dems have always had common sense. edisdead Aug 9 #150

What exactly is the Bernie ticket? betsuni Aug 9 #43

Haven't you heard? All this and more can magically come to life "with the stroke of a pen." Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #53

Or the magic bully pulpit. betsuni Aug 9 #120

...something...something...The Establishment! sheshe2 Aug 9 #59

LOL! I saw that, too. The usual BS, gaslighting and buzz-words. Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #68

Ah, yes, oligarch. sheshe2 Aug 9 #72

"Status quo" too. Thankfully the buzz-words are disappearing. But "establishment" as an insult lasts forever. betsuni Aug 9 #123

And "rigged". And sadly, that's a word (and a lie) that continues to be used. Oopsie Daisy Aug 11 #261

None of that are even his ideas edisdead Aug 9 #151

As if health care as a human right, not a privilege was a new idea -- Ted Kennedy said exactly that since the '70s betsuni Aug 9 #157

Preach. Teach. sheshe2 Aug 10 #215

Ted Kennedy spent most of his Senate career Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #186

Better yet, what has he DONE to accomplish any of it? Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #185

And policy plans have to work to accomplish progress, not just be slogans. betsuni Aug 10 #214

Yes LiberaBlueDem Aug 9 #44

What do you mean? I have yet to see the man do anything yet and we have been LizBeth Aug 9 #63

IKR? sheshe2 Aug 9 #73

It just reminds me so much of men are the protectors. They do not do shit... LizBeth Aug 9 #74

LIE Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #187

Bernie has been a real leader LiberaBlueDem Aug 10 #212

No. sheshe2 Aug 10 #216

Ha hahahaha, you have to work real hard ignoring all the information being provided for you LizBeth Aug 10 #220

No, seriously LiberaBlueDem Aug 10 #231

No seriously, he would not and the people have spoken two runs. Seriously. LizBeth Aug 10 #236

We Dems are Happy because of Pres Joe Biden's Cha Aug 9 #45

Yes. Unapologetically advocate for heartfelt values. pat_k Aug 9 #46

"No more triangulating that which we perceive as 'doable.'" betsuni Aug 9 #47

"Triangulating" ... there's yet another popular anti-Democratic party buzzword. Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #117

Coined by Bill Clinton IIRC scipan Aug 9 #133

I don't know... But it's meaning today is clear. Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #136

"In the end, as their representatives in Washington should have known all along, even those voters betsuni Aug 10 #166

Exactly! Ninga Aug 11 #277

We can talk about our values and goals. pat_k Aug 9 #145

Bullshit, if you remember 2016 that was a HUGE issue in the campaign and many many many of us LizBeth Aug 10 #161

Democrats have a generations-long record of building the will to achieve big goals. lapucelle Aug 9 #140

What ahistorical silliness Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #188

It IS great to see the Democratic party coalescing around a very progressive future! Think. Again. Aug 9 #48

Well said. This is exactly my sentiment in this post TheSocialDem Aug 9 #148

Obama started it with ACA and has been step by step to get to this point. We GOT here because of LizBeth Aug 10 #163

You seemed to have misunderstood my post... Think. Again. Aug 10 #164

I did not misunderstand, you totally missed my counter. LizBeth Aug 10 #221

I believe you're right, to me, your counter seems completely unrelated to my post. Think. Again. Aug 10 #224

Yes, I get that you think it does. LizBeth Aug 10 #228

No, LBJ started it with Medicare/Medicaid Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #190

Yes... you are right. Thank you for the reminder. The more posting in this thread, LizBeth Aug 10 #229

B...S...! Oopsie Daisy Aug 10 #173

You've added quite a bit of your own thoughts into my posts... Think. Again. Aug 10 #174

I know how to decipher passive aggressive ambiguity. Oopsie Daisy Aug 10 #178

Wow. Think. Again. Aug 10 #191

Yeah. I know. Right? Oopsie Daisy Aug 10 #218

Good grief Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #189

Just my impressions from being a lifelong Democrat. Think. Again. Aug 10 #192

Not at all. Passages Aug 9 #49

It's not a moderate ticket! Emile Aug 9 #50

That's for sure! Think. Again. Aug 9 #51

Please. 🙄 No it's not. It's quite the insult to use phrases like * Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #52

Sanders has yet to do anything and here he is getting credit for Biden adm, Harris/Walz ticket. LizBeth Aug 9 #64

Well, that's sort of his career in a nutshell Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #184

Isn't it though... I mean. !!! Right? Geez. Lol LizBeth Aug 10 #230

Purity test: compromise and incrementalism is immoral. But that's how government works. betsuni Aug 9 #128

That's not how campaigning needs to work. TheSocialDem Aug 9 #149

Nobody is campaigning on compromise. betsuni Aug 9 #154

Genuinely disagree, don't campaign on TheSocialDem Aug 9 #155

That campaign goal, got him votes.. TheSocialDem Aug 9 #156

Who was anticipating Republican actions? Republicans are a radical anti-bipartisan 100% obstructionist party. betsuni Aug 10 #159

Build the wall and Mexico will pay. Yes, we have seen it. No I do not want that politician. LizBeth Aug 10 #162

I am NOT a Bernie guy. Never was, never will be. I am proud to be a DEMOCRAT! elocs Aug 9 #55

And when "campaigning" for Harris called Dems out saying we historically LizBeth Aug 9 #65

That was infuriating! Why would Bernie insult Democrats with such an outrageous lie? Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #76

Right and worse was people defending that as campaigning for Harris. LizBeth Aug 9 #80

The foundation of the ideology is that Democrats turned their backs on unions and the working class betsuni Aug 9 #131

I was a delegate to the 2016 National Convention and saw first-hand what happened in 2016 LetMyPeopleVote Aug 9 #108

Sing it brother.... you betcha. LizBeth Aug 9 #112

Well, this certainly explains a lot. The disrespect for John Lewis, Elijah Cummings & Stacy Abrams * Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #116

The Clinton delegates knew that these stunts were coming and that Sanders refused to stop these stunts LetMyPeopleVote Aug 9 #119

Never forget. So to say today is because of Sanders can well be seen as salt in the wound. LizBeth Aug 9 #122

The fart-in planned for the convention! betsuni Aug 10 #158

It was well known that many of the bro contingent Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #193

Yes and all the while we were and are still gaslighted because we clearly saw LizBeth Aug 10 #222

THANK YOU Skittles Aug 9 #146

Sooo predictable Doc Sportello Aug 9 #56

Because it wasn't over Sanders Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #194

OMG you used the Bernie word. Very brave. Nanjeanne Aug 9 #58

That's not what the OP said, though. yardwork Aug 9 #77

You can't spell progressive without progress. sheshe2 Aug 11 #244

The OP said it was a "Bernie TICKET" which is not Cha Aug 9 #109

It's a Harris-Walz ticket mcar Aug 9 #66

Why do people keep doing this? This isn't the first "let's-give-Bernie-credit" sentiment * Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #75

Ya, I do not stay quiet with unfairness like this. I will always speak up. LizBeth Aug 9 #83

I personally think 16 was a shit show and I don't want to hear anything about that time. Demsrule86 Aug 9 #95

I have a few guesses as to why they are doing this mcar Aug 9 #101

It smells awfully cultish, if you ask me. Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #195

Yes, I have seen the similarity for years. White and male, and protecting status. LizBeth Aug 10 #223

Well, he did, but not in the way his supporters think LongtimeAZDem Aug 9 #99

Well as a Hillary woman... AkFemDem Aug 9 #78

It's what Bernie could have been kcr Aug 9 #79

Interesting analysis. They have unrealized expectations and hopes that are now manifesting themselves in ways * Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #94

Like attracts like Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #197

Oh--and could have been? Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #199

This is not a Bernie ticket -- really? You say that? It is a Biden-Harris ticket obamanut2012 Aug 9 #81

Actually Pelosi is who accomplished all this thru the House with her brilliance and LizBeth Aug 9 #86

Yep. orange jar Aug 9 #100

uhhhh nope! DemonGoddess Aug 9 #87

Please, folks . . . . markpkessinger Aug 9 #90

I would ask the OP to self delete then obamanut2012 Aug 9 #91

You are free to make that request if you wish . . . markpkessinger Aug 9 #93

That seems unlikely to happen. It's a good thought though. Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #97

Bernie has nothing to do with our election this year. Give Kamala and Waltz the credit. They deserve it. Demsrule86 Aug 9 #96

I hardly think it is necessary to see the OP as taking anything away from Kamala and Walz n/t markpkessinger Aug 9 #98

LOL! Let's review... Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #107

I wanted to acknowledge how refreshing is it TheSocialDem Aug 9 #152

How exactly is the Harris/Walz platform different from the Biden/Harris or previous platforms? betsuni Aug 10 #168

While you may feel "refreshed" the words you choose to express it are insulting. Oopsie Daisy Aug 10 #170

And it is really short sighted and limited thinking to suggest this is all because of Sanders LizBeth Aug 10 #172

Thank you. Passive aggressiveness, not fooling anybody. betsuni Aug 10 #175

It's not our fault that you missed the other ones Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #200

Bernie Sanders has nothing to do with the current election ...it is all Harris and Waltz. They deserve the credit. Demsrule86 Aug 9 #114

Literally saying they are campaigning as genuinely unapologetically TheSocialDem Aug 9 #147

They're not the first Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #201

RIGHT!!!! Geez all love you people that actually do your own thinking and educate self on fact. LizBeth Aug 10 #225

Ha, was thinking the same thing. I have a crush on Zoomie. betsuni Aug 11 #252

Since it was just a week or so ago he got on camera to campaign for Harris said Dem historically LizBeth Aug 9 #111

Indeed we DEMOCRATS are united. And we won't tolerate BS posts that attempt to steal credit * Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #121

Thank you Oopsie for saying it so clearly and loudly. Yes. This is not a tough one LizBeth Aug 9 #124

Please stop "both-sides"-ing this. Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #118

Sing it sister, so now can we be done with this? Yet? Please! LizBeth Aug 9 #125

Let's hope. Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #127

This is an "in spite of Bernie" ticket LongtimeAZDem Aug 9 #92

Good one. LakeArenal Aug 9 #130

Now you've done it Sympthsical Aug 9 #105

If I recall correctly MorbidButterflyTat Aug 9 #106

Beware the pitfalls of starting internecine warfare. GreenWave Aug 9 #113

Are you in the Green Party? I ask because of your name... Demsrule86 Aug 9 #115

It's an FDR/JFK ticket. Irish_Dem Aug 9 #126

If I'd said this, would I still get the sexist criticism? TheSocialDem Aug 9 #153

FDR, JFK, LBJ: liberal Democrats, not democratic socialists. Clinton, Obama, Biden, Harris are liberals betsuni Aug 10 #167

How can it be sexist, we have had no female presidents. Irish_Dem Aug 10 #169

It's an FDR/LBJ ticket Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #205

JFK wanted peace. Irish_Dem Aug 11 #259

Naaaa JustAnotherGen Aug 9 #129

+1 sheshe2 Aug 9 #132

+1 obamanut2012 Aug 9 #134

Yeah but LiberaBlueDem Aug 9 #135

So, in 2012 and since has preached time and time again that it could be done LizBeth Aug 9 #137

We've had the $15+ minimum wage and tuition-free community college and state university lapucelle Aug 9 #141

Right... I am not going to sit back and allow the rewriting of history to accomodate an ego. LizBeth Aug 9 #142

To be fair, I think the "rigged system" narrative originated with Sanders, lapucelle Aug 9 #144

Absolutely. betsuni Aug 10 #160

This is a Democratic ticket led by Kamala Harris. Our Party was in wonderful hands lapucelle Aug 9 #138

Kinda sorta of maybe... with we gotta elect her now let me tell you what she will need LizBeth Aug 9 #143

I made this JoseBalow Aug 10 #165

There it is LongtimeAZDem Aug 10 #171

Yep. The GOP calls *everything* radical. And if EVERYTHING is radical, then NONE of it is radical. Beartracks Aug 10 #176

This is a mainstream center-left Democratic ticket. Bernie is a self-described socialist. Dems are not that. Deek1935 Aug 10 #177

Great post! Thank you, Deek1935! 👍🍷 Oopsie Daisy Aug 10 #179

Well said PatSeg Aug 11 #260

LOL No, it's not a Bernie ticket Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #180

Thank goodness it's not a moderate ticket. Emile Aug 10 #183

I just heard the same thing on Faux News. SalviaBlue Aug 10 #196

There you go and Sanders grinnnnnsssss, for not doing shit. And this is why we have to schoo constantly on THIS LizBeth Aug 10 #232

I just heard the Faux news reporter say the same thing on my MILs TV. SalviaBlue Aug 10 #198

What are you doing watching Fox noise? Emile Aug 10 #202

Wishing I could blow my brains out.... SalviaBlue Aug 10 #203

LOL, you need to find a remote control. Emile Aug 10 #204

It's called oppo research Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #206

LOL, smart people don't watch Fox! Emile Aug 10 #207

You're watching propaganda for "valuable information"? Think. Again. Aug 10 #209

You are the one buying and promoting, they just broadcasted what you are saying, lmao. LizBeth Aug 10 #233

I don't even have cable. Think. Again. Aug 10 #237

like that is the point..... LizBeth Aug 10 #239

But I hear people who watch it, such as yourself, believe it is "invaluable information". Think. Again. Aug 10 #241

I do not even have tv, let alone watching Fox news. What you talking about? LizBeth Aug 11 #245

My mistake, I assumed since you knew what "just broadcast" by them... Think. Again. Aug 11 #254

Harris/walz are the first presidential ticket wanting to legalize mj questionseverything Aug 10 #208

Very progressive Emile Aug 10 #210

It took a lot f states and Colorado and then Oregon taking the first steps to this point. LizBeth Aug 10 #234

Takes time because Republicans and moderates dragging their feet. Emile Aug 11 #256

And just getting the people on board, see it is not dire consequence as a matter of LizBeth Aug 11 #265

I remember the masses of voters in the Democratic Emile Aug 11 #267

In the Democratic party, that is not a nation as a whole backing public option LizBeth Aug 11 #270

Well as I said earlier it's a matter of getting Republicans and MODERATES Emile Aug 11 #273

Exactly. Democratic states and cities raising the minimum wage, legalizing marijuana, betsuni Aug 11 #257

Exactly. So Sanders comes in 2016 and say now we want to go from A to T in a flash, LizBeth Aug 11 #266

I love it!! nt Carlitos Brigante Aug 10 #226

Post removed Post removed Aug 10 #227

Right here, you said it. And we have fox promoting it and Sanders grinning. LizBeth Aug 10 #235

It's clear you're attempting to spark division here, please stop. Think. Again. Aug 10 #238

No, as a lifetime Democrat I can say the same giving an independent ALL the credit for our Democratic accomplishments, LizBeth Aug 10 #240

Again, your response doesn't seem to have any connection to my post, or even the OP. Think. Again. Aug 10 #242

You are exhausting. LizBeth Aug 11 #246

My apologies, I am simply replying responding to your prompts. Think. Again. Aug 11 #255

ya... but you gotta do some thinking in between the two instead of just reading then replying. LizBeth Aug 11 #268

I'm sorry if my concise responses bother you? Think. Again. Aug 11 #271

Clue in... your responses are not even in the ball park, hence the exhaustion. lol LizBeth Aug 11 #274

I'm sorry you're exhausted, perhaps ignore me? Think. Again. Aug 11 #276

It's very obvious. +1 Emile Aug 11 #258

Omg... lol LizBeth Aug 11 #275

I'll pass on the photo this go around...😉 sheshe2 Aug 11 #247

lol, right. LizBeth Aug 11 #248

Yes. sheshe2 Aug 11 #249

Yep lol LizBeth Aug 11 #250

For the record Omaha Steve Aug 10 #243

That's nice. But what relevance does it have in this threaded discussion topic? Oopsie Daisy Aug 11 #263

Bernie walked so Harris could run, right? Self Esteem Aug 11 #253

😲...🙄...🤢🤮 ---- 😂🤣🤪🤪 Oopsie Daisy Aug 11 #262

😆😆😆😆😆 sheshe2 Aug 11 #264

Three weeks of unity was too much pattyloutwo Aug 11 #278

Nobody on DU is being "attacked". Who's being "attacked"? Oopsie Daisy Aug 11 #280