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MorbidButterflyTat

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106. If I recall correctly

Fri Aug 9, 2024, 01:26 PM

Aug 9

in 2016 Bernie couldn't or chose not to recognize he was being used by the KGOP/Russian "ticket," while trying to hijack the Democratic nomination.

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As a Bernie guy [View all] TheSocialDem Aug 8 OP

This is a Biden ticket n/t emulatorloo Aug 8 #1

Thank-you. JohnSJ Aug 9 #89

I agree LetMyPeopleVote Aug 9 #103

This is not a Bernie ticket. Bev54 Aug 8 #2

Agreed but... BrianTheEVGuy Aug 9 #42

This is part 2 of Joe Biden's effort to Save the Soul of America. He passed the torch during a terrific... Hekate Aug 8 #3

He did. Biden was hugely progressive TheSocialDem Aug 8 #4

Biden is a Democrat from birth, and his lifetime in the Senate taught him the Art of the Possible Hekate Aug 8 #9

Then you know nothing about Kamala Harris obamanut2012 Aug 9 #82

President Biden is a Democrat who knows how to get things done, lapucelle Aug 9 #139

It is a democratic ticket and y'll can't quit trying to take ownership LizBeth Aug 8 #5

lol who's "y'all " TheSocialDem Aug 8 #6

Yup JI7 Aug 9 #31

correct obamanut2012 Aug 9 #84

The ticket should be appealing to Bernie people but it is a Democratic ticket. TomSlick Aug 8 #7

Agreed! TheSocialDem Aug 8 #8

I beg to differ. sheshe2 Aug 8 #10

Ironic, the dismissive "identity politics" "I'm a woman, vote for me" thing. betsuni Aug 9 #40

Exactly, betsuni. sheshe2 Aug 9 #57

Yep LizBeth Aug 9 #60

What? You don't understand the significance of he first woman president? LymphocyteLover Aug 10 #211

Don't understand what you mean. betsuni Aug 10 #217

And I didn't understand your comment that I replied to LymphocyteLover Aug 11 #279

Belief that Democrats ignored the white working class and had no economic plans, only identity politics betsuni Aug 12 #281

Oh OK, thanks. I don't disagree with any of that LymphocyteLover Aug 12 #282

Love this photo! mcar Aug 9 #67

💙 sheshe2 Aug 9 #71

Today Biden is president. It's his administration. LakeArenal Aug 9 #88

Perfect! LizBeth Aug 9 #102

She will have her team (Tim will be in it, of course). Justice matters. Aug 11 #251

Walz is his own candidate. He's different than any candidate to date. LakeArenal Aug 11 #269

I think so too. And every VP should or does follow the Pres. Harris will implement her own. LizBeth Aug 11 #272

Thank You..n/t asuhornets Aug 10 #213

.... LexVegas Aug 8 #11

... sheshe2 Aug 8 #12

I bet you were one of the people losing it about people TheSocialDem Aug 8 #13

IKR! Cha Aug 8 #15

NO WAY.. As Others have posted on the Thread Cha Aug 8 #14

What doubters...folks on this forum have been happy with the conduct of our candidates. And it is not Demsrule86 Aug 9 #16

NOPE Skittles Aug 9 #17

Not! oasis Aug 9 #18

No. Not one bit. murielm99 Aug 9 #19

No. KH: "We will continue to fight for affordable housing, affordable health care, affordable child care, paid leave." betsuni Aug 9 #20

Amen Sister! Cha Aug 9 #22

It's so annoying, which is obviously the point. We're supposed to get real mad. betsuni Aug 9 #33

Yeah, didn't read the temperature of the Room! Cha Aug 9 #35

Feels a bit like arguing the last primaries. LakeArenal Aug 9 #110

This is the most progressive ticket of my lifetime TheSocialDem Aug 9 #24

2008, 2016, 2020, 2024 -- all the most progressive party platform in history. betsuni Aug 9 #27

Yeah, Pres Joe Biden and VP Harris are Progressives who GET IT DONE. Cha Aug 9 #37

And, they are solid Democrats! mcar Aug 9 #69

Yes Democrats who Make Super Important Progress! Cha Aug 9 #104

LBJ/Humphrey and McGovern/Shriver Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #181

Even here people just have to put a man in the spotlight edisdead Aug 9 #21

Lmao you're trying way too hard to find sexism TheSocialDem Aug 9 #23

no Skittles Aug 9 #26

You're the one who tried to take it away from VP Harris and it's Cha Aug 9 #32

No I'm not. edisdead Aug 9 #54

Maybe you just ignore it too easily. LizBeth Aug 9 #62

Lmao, keep digging mcar Aug 9 #70

This is sexism -- it is a Harris ticket, not Bernie ticket obamanut2012 Aug 9 #85

Not all that hard Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #182

Right? Have to work really hard not to see. Hand in the face to shut up and if LizBeth Aug 10 #219

it's a......load of BS Skittles Aug 9 #25

, Mahalo! Cha Aug 9 #28

Has he acknowledge Harris stands with working class and not just the old white men like Biden LizBeth Aug 9 #61

No it's not JI7 Aug 9 #29

and any who fail to recognize the close relations between a Bernie ticket and a Biden ticket are elleng Aug 9 #30

Who are you calling "Foolish".?. This is VP Harris' and Gov Walz' "TICKET". Cha Aug 9 #34

'And finally Dems are embracing common sense,' elleng Aug 9 #36

No Dems have had it All Along! Too bad you had to go for Cha Aug 9 #38

Sorry, personal insult not intended, elleng Aug 9 #39

So? maybe we just don't Cha Aug 9 #41

Dems have always had common sense. edisdead Aug 9 #150

What exactly is the Bernie ticket? betsuni Aug 9 #43

Haven't you heard? All this and more can magically come to life "with the stroke of a pen." Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #53

Or the magic bully pulpit. betsuni Aug 9 #120

...something...something...The Establishment! sheshe2 Aug 9 #59

LOL! I saw that, too. The usual BS, gaslighting and buzz-words. Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #68

Ah, yes, oligarch. sheshe2 Aug 9 #72

"Status quo" too. Thankfully the buzz-words are disappearing. But "establishment" as an insult lasts forever. betsuni Aug 9 #123

And "rigged". And sadly, that's a word (and a lie) that continues to be used. Oopsie Daisy Aug 11 #261

None of that are even his ideas edisdead Aug 9 #151

As if health care as a human right, not a privilege was a new idea -- Ted Kennedy said exactly that since the '70s betsuni Aug 9 #157

Preach. Teach. sheshe2 Aug 10 #215

Ted Kennedy spent most of his Senate career Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #186

Better yet, what has he DONE to accomplish any of it? Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #185

And policy plans have to work to accomplish progress, not just be slogans. betsuni Aug 10 #214

Yes LiberaBlueDem Aug 9 #44

What do you mean? I have yet to see the man do anything yet and we have been LizBeth Aug 9 #63

IKR? sheshe2 Aug 9 #73

It just reminds me so much of men are the protectors. They do not do shit... LizBeth Aug 9 #74

LIE Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #187

Bernie has been a real leader LiberaBlueDem Aug 10 #212

No. sheshe2 Aug 10 #216

Ha hahahaha, you have to work real hard ignoring all the information being provided for you LizBeth Aug 10 #220

No, seriously LiberaBlueDem Aug 10 #231

No seriously, he would not and the people have spoken two runs. Seriously. LizBeth Aug 10 #236

We Dems are Happy because of Pres Joe Biden's Cha Aug 9 #45

Yes. Unapologetically advocate for heartfelt values. pat_k Aug 9 #46

"No more triangulating that which we perceive as 'doable.'" betsuni Aug 9 #47

"Triangulating" ... there's yet another popular anti-Democratic party buzzword. Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #117

Coined by Bill Clinton IIRC scipan Aug 9 #133

I don't know... But it's meaning today is clear. Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #136

"In the end, as their representatives in Washington should have known all along, even those voters betsuni Aug 10 #166

Exactly! Ninga Aug 11 #277

We can talk about our values and goals. pat_k Aug 9 #145

Bullshit, if you remember 2016 that was a HUGE issue in the campaign and many many many of us LizBeth Aug 10 #161

Democrats have a generations-long record of building the will to achieve big goals. lapucelle Aug 9 #140

What ahistorical silliness Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #188

It IS great to see the Democratic party coalescing around a very progressive future! Think. Again. Aug 9 #48

Well said. This is exactly my sentiment in this post TheSocialDem Aug 9 #148

Obama started it with ACA and has been step by step to get to this point. We GOT here because of LizBeth Aug 10 #163

You seemed to have misunderstood my post... Think. Again. Aug 10 #164

I did not misunderstand, you totally missed my counter. LizBeth Aug 10 #221

I believe you're right, to me, your counter seems completely unrelated to my post. Think. Again. Aug 10 #224

Yes, I get that you think it does. LizBeth Aug 10 #228

No, LBJ started it with Medicare/Medicaid Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #190

Yes... you are right. Thank you for the reminder. The more posting in this thread, LizBeth Aug 10 #229

B...S...! Oopsie Daisy Aug 10 #173

You've added quite a bit of your own thoughts into my posts... Think. Again. Aug 10 #174

I know how to decipher passive aggressive ambiguity. Oopsie Daisy Aug 10 #178

Wow. Think. Again. Aug 10 #191

Yeah. I know. Right? Oopsie Daisy Aug 10 #218

Good grief Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #189

Just my impressions from being a lifelong Democrat. Think. Again. Aug 10 #192

Not at all. Passages Aug 9 #49

It's not a moderate ticket! Emile Aug 9 #50

That's for sure! Think. Again. Aug 9 #51

Please. 🙄 No it's not. It's quite the insult to use phrases like * Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #52

Sanders has yet to do anything and here he is getting credit for Biden adm, Harris/Walz ticket. LizBeth Aug 9 #64

Well, that's sort of his career in a nutshell Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #184

Isn't it though... I mean. !!! Right? Geez. Lol LizBeth Aug 10 #230

Purity test: compromise and incrementalism is immoral. But that's how government works. betsuni Aug 9 #128

That's not how campaigning needs to work. TheSocialDem Aug 9 #149

Nobody is campaigning on compromise. betsuni Aug 9 #154

Genuinely disagree, don't campaign on TheSocialDem Aug 9 #155

That campaign goal, got him votes.. TheSocialDem Aug 9 #156

Who was anticipating Republican actions? Republicans are a radical anti-bipartisan 100% obstructionist party. betsuni Aug 10 #159

Build the wall and Mexico will pay. Yes, we have seen it. No I do not want that politician. LizBeth Aug 10 #162

I am NOT a Bernie guy. Never was, never will be. I am proud to be a DEMOCRAT! elocs Aug 9 #55

And when "campaigning" for Harris called Dems out saying we historically LizBeth Aug 9 #65

That was infuriating! Why would Bernie insult Democrats with such an outrageous lie? Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #76

Right and worse was people defending that as campaigning for Harris. LizBeth Aug 9 #80

The foundation of the ideology is that Democrats turned their backs on unions and the working class betsuni Aug 9 #131

I was a delegate to the 2016 National Convention and saw first-hand what happened in 2016 LetMyPeopleVote Aug 9 #108

Sing it brother.... you betcha. LizBeth Aug 9 #112

Well, this certainly explains a lot. The disrespect for John Lewis, Elijah Cummings & Stacy Abrams * Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #116

The Clinton delegates knew that these stunts were coming and that Sanders refused to stop these stunts LetMyPeopleVote Aug 9 #119

Never forget. So to say today is because of Sanders can well be seen as salt in the wound. LizBeth Aug 9 #122

The fart-in planned for the convention! betsuni Aug 10 #158

It was well known that many of the bro contingent Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #193

Yes and all the while we were and are still gaslighted because we clearly saw LizBeth Aug 10 #222

THANK YOU Skittles Aug 9 #146

Sooo predictable Doc Sportello Aug 9 #56

Because it wasn't over Sanders Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #194

OMG you used the Bernie word. Very brave. Nanjeanne Aug 9 #58

That's not what the OP said, though. yardwork Aug 9 #77

You can't spell progressive without progress. sheshe2 Aug 11 #244

The OP said it was a "Bernie TICKET" which is not Cha Aug 9 #109

It's a Harris-Walz ticket mcar Aug 9 #66

Why do people keep doing this? This isn't the first "let's-give-Bernie-credit" sentiment * Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #75

Ya, I do not stay quiet with unfairness like this. I will always speak up. LizBeth Aug 9 #83

I personally think 16 was a shit show and I don't want to hear anything about that time. Demsrule86 Aug 9 #95

I have a few guesses as to why they are doing this mcar Aug 9 #101

It smells awfully cultish, if you ask me. Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #195

Yes, I have seen the similarity for years. White and male, and protecting status. LizBeth Aug 10 #223

Well, he did, but not in the way his supporters think LongtimeAZDem Aug 9 #99

Well as a Hillary woman... AkFemDem Aug 9 #78

It's what Bernie could have been kcr Aug 9 #79

Interesting analysis. They have unrealized expectations and hopes that are now manifesting themselves in ways * Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #94

Like attracts like Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #197

Oh--and could have been? Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #199

This is not a Bernie ticket -- really? You say that? It is a Biden-Harris ticket obamanut2012 Aug 9 #81

Actually Pelosi is who accomplished all this thru the House with her brilliance and LizBeth Aug 9 #86

Yep. orange jar Aug 9 #100

uhhhh nope! DemonGoddess Aug 9 #87

Please, folks . . . . markpkessinger Aug 9 #90

I would ask the OP to self delete then obamanut2012 Aug 9 #91

You are free to make that request if you wish . . . markpkessinger Aug 9 #93

That seems unlikely to happen. It's a good thought though. Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #97

Bernie has nothing to do with our election this year. Give Kamala and Waltz the credit. They deserve it. Demsrule86 Aug 9 #96

I hardly think it is necessary to see the OP as taking anything away from Kamala and Walz n/t markpkessinger Aug 9 #98

LOL! Let's review... Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #107

I wanted to acknowledge how refreshing is it TheSocialDem Aug 9 #152

How exactly is the Harris/Walz platform different from the Biden/Harris or previous platforms? betsuni Aug 10 #168

While you may feel "refreshed" the words you choose to express it are insulting. Oopsie Daisy Aug 10 #170

And it is really short sighted and limited thinking to suggest this is all because of Sanders LizBeth Aug 10 #172

Thank you. Passive aggressiveness, not fooling anybody. betsuni Aug 10 #175

It's not our fault that you missed the other ones Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #200

Bernie Sanders has nothing to do with the current election ...it is all Harris and Waltz. They deserve the credit. Demsrule86 Aug 9 #114

Literally saying they are campaigning as genuinely unapologetically TheSocialDem Aug 9 #147

They're not the first Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #201

RIGHT!!!! Geez all love you people that actually do your own thinking and educate self on fact. LizBeth Aug 10 #225

Ha, was thinking the same thing. I have a crush on Zoomie. betsuni Aug 11 #252

Since it was just a week or so ago he got on camera to campaign for Harris said Dem historically LizBeth Aug 9 #111

Indeed we DEMOCRATS are united. And we won't tolerate BS posts that attempt to steal credit * Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #121

Thank you Oopsie for saying it so clearly and loudly. Yes. This is not a tough one LizBeth Aug 9 #124

Please stop "both-sides"-ing this. Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #118

Sing it sister, so now can we be done with this? Yet? Please! LizBeth Aug 9 #125

Let's hope. Oopsie Daisy Aug 9 #127

This is an "in spite of Bernie" ticket LongtimeAZDem Aug 9 #92

Good one. LakeArenal Aug 9 #130

Now you've done it Sympthsical Aug 9 #105

If I recall correctly MorbidButterflyTat Aug 9 #106

Beware the pitfalls of starting internecine warfare. GreenWave Aug 9 #113

Are you in the Green Party? I ask because of your name... Demsrule86 Aug 9 #115

It's an FDR/JFK ticket. Irish_Dem Aug 9 #126

If I'd said this, would I still get the sexist criticism? TheSocialDem Aug 9 #153

FDR, JFK, LBJ: liberal Democrats, not democratic socialists. Clinton, Obama, Biden, Harris are liberals betsuni Aug 10 #167

How can it be sexist, we have had no female presidents. Irish_Dem Aug 10 #169

It's an FDR/LBJ ticket Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #205

JFK wanted peace. Irish_Dem Aug 11 #259

Naaaa JustAnotherGen Aug 9 #129

+1 sheshe2 Aug 9 #132

+1 obamanut2012 Aug 9 #134

Yeah but LiberaBlueDem Aug 9 #135

So, in 2012 and since has preached time and time again that it could be done LizBeth Aug 9 #137

We've had the $15+ minimum wage and tuition-free community college and state university lapucelle Aug 9 #141

Right... I am not going to sit back and allow the rewriting of history to accomodate an ego. LizBeth Aug 9 #142

To be fair, I think the "rigged system" narrative originated with Sanders, lapucelle Aug 9 #144

Absolutely. betsuni Aug 10 #160

This is a Democratic ticket led by Kamala Harris. Our Party was in wonderful hands lapucelle Aug 9 #138

Kinda sorta of maybe... with we gotta elect her now let me tell you what she will need LizBeth Aug 9 #143

I made this JoseBalow Aug 10 #165

There it is LongtimeAZDem Aug 10 #171

Yep. The GOP calls *everything* radical. And if EVERYTHING is radical, then NONE of it is radical. Beartracks Aug 10 #176

This is a mainstream center-left Democratic ticket. Bernie is a self-described socialist. Dems are not that. Deek1935 Aug 10 #177

Great post! Thank you, Deek1935! 👍🍷 Oopsie Daisy Aug 10 #179

Well said PatSeg Aug 11 #260

LOL No, it's not a Bernie ticket Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #180

Thank goodness it's not a moderate ticket. Emile Aug 10 #183

I just heard the same thing on Faux News. SalviaBlue Aug 10 #196

There you go and Sanders grinnnnnsssss, for not doing shit. And this is why we have to schoo constantly on THIS LizBeth Aug 10 #232

I just heard the Faux news reporter say the same thing on my MILs TV. SalviaBlue Aug 10 #198

What are you doing watching Fox noise? Emile Aug 10 #202

Wishing I could blow my brains out.... SalviaBlue Aug 10 #203

LOL, you need to find a remote control. Emile Aug 10 #204

It's called oppo research Zoomie1986 Aug 10 #206

LOL, smart people don't watch Fox! Emile Aug 10 #207

You're watching propaganda for "valuable information"? Think. Again. Aug 10 #209

You are the one buying and promoting, they just broadcasted what you are saying, lmao. LizBeth Aug 10 #233

I don't even have cable. Think. Again. Aug 10 #237

like that is the point..... LizBeth Aug 10 #239

But I hear people who watch it, such as yourself, believe it is "invaluable information". Think. Again. Aug 10 #241

I do not even have tv, let alone watching Fox news. What you talking about? LizBeth Aug 11 #245

My mistake, I assumed since you knew what "just broadcast" by them... Think. Again. Aug 11 #254

Harris/walz are the first presidential ticket wanting to legalize mj questionseverything Aug 10 #208

Very progressive Emile Aug 10 #210

It took a lot f states and Colorado and then Oregon taking the first steps to this point. LizBeth Aug 10 #234

Takes time because Republicans and moderates dragging their feet. Emile Aug 11 #256

And just getting the people on board, see it is not dire consequence as a matter of LizBeth Aug 11 #265

I remember the masses of voters in the Democratic Emile Aug 11 #267

In the Democratic party, that is not a nation as a whole backing public option LizBeth Aug 11 #270

Well as I said earlier it's a matter of getting Republicans and MODERATES Emile Aug 11 #273

Exactly. Democratic states and cities raising the minimum wage, legalizing marijuana, betsuni Aug 11 #257

Exactly. So Sanders comes in 2016 and say now we want to go from A to T in a flash, LizBeth Aug 11 #266

I love it!! nt Carlitos Brigante Aug 10 #226

Post removed Post removed Aug 10 #227

Right here, you said it. And we have fox promoting it and Sanders grinning. LizBeth Aug 10 #235

It's clear you're attempting to spark division here, please stop. Think. Again. Aug 10 #238

No, as a lifetime Democrat I can say the same giving an independent ALL the credit for our Democratic accomplishments, LizBeth Aug 10 #240

Again, your response doesn't seem to have any connection to my post, or even the OP. Think. Again. Aug 10 #242

You are exhausting. LizBeth Aug 11 #246

My apologies, I am simply replying responding to your prompts. Think. Again. Aug 11 #255

ya... but you gotta do some thinking in between the two instead of just reading then replying. LizBeth Aug 11 #268

I'm sorry if my concise responses bother you? Think. Again. Aug 11 #271

Clue in... your responses are not even in the ball park, hence the exhaustion. lol LizBeth Aug 11 #274

I'm sorry you're exhausted, perhaps ignore me? Think. Again. Aug 11 #276

It's very obvious. +1 Emile Aug 11 #258

Omg... lol LizBeth Aug 11 #275

I'll pass on the photo this go around...😉 sheshe2 Aug 11 #247

lol, right. LizBeth Aug 11 #248

Yes. sheshe2 Aug 11 #249

Yep lol LizBeth Aug 11 #250

For the record Omaha Steve Aug 10 #243

That's nice. But what relevance does it have in this threaded discussion topic? Oopsie Daisy Aug 11 #263

Bernie walked so Harris could run, right? Self Esteem Aug 11 #253

😲...🙄...🤢🤮 ---- 😂🤣🤪🤪 Oopsie Daisy Aug 11 #262

😆😆😆😆😆 sheshe2 Aug 11 #264

Three weeks of unity was too much pattyloutwo Aug 11 #278

Nobody on DU is being "attacked". Who's being "attacked"? Oopsie Daisy Aug 11 #280