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29. Not even close

Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:33 PM

Aug 9

It's significant in many ways, but not the same. Obama had months of filling stadiums and breaking fundraising records. Kamala is doing well, but it's been 2 weeks.

Obama also had surprise victories in many states. Kamala hasn't had a chance to do that yet.

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The Harris buzz isn't to Obama 2008 levels - but it does remind me of 2012... [View all] Self Esteem Aug 9 OP

The Harris/Walz buss is greater than 2008. DURHAM D Aug 9 #1

Absolutely not. Self Esteem Aug 9 #4

and I knew people that QUIT THEIR JOBS to work for him in other states Coexist Aug 9 #15

Portland was bigger than St. Louis. mobeau69 Aug 9 #33

If in less than a month she's already at 2012 Obama levels... ColinC Aug 9 #36

She's more comparable to Obama's 2012 levels. But she's still not there yet. Self Esteem Aug 10 #39

You never know. pat_k Aug 10 #68

That cant happen this cycle for security reasons - not passion getagrip_already Aug 13 #101

No it's not democrattotheend Aug 9 #6

Exactly. Self Esteem Aug 9 #8

It's actually not. BannonsLiver Aug 9 #11

She's not been campaigning as long as Obama. whathehell Aug 10 #70

I think so, too obamanut2012 Aug 9 #31

Hi. I think it is funny that 4 people have "Reced" the OP DURHAM D Aug 9 #34

Buzz now sure is bigger! Kid Berwyn Aug 10 #78

No. I was a 10 & 11 year old living in London when Obama launched his campaign and then surged to a win in the primary. Celerity Aug 10 #98

It's bigger than 2008. Ocelot II Aug 9 #2

lol c'mon Self Esteem Aug 9 #5

Very different circumstances. Obama had months to gin up those kinds of crowds. Ocelot II Aug 9 #9

She's not doing outdoor rallies due to security. Plus she has been the nominee for less than a month Sky Jewels Aug 18 #109

Not even close Renew Deal Aug 9 #29

Effectively, it's only been three and a half days. WheelWalker Aug 10 #63

Are you saying you don't think the Harris campaign is NOT stronger than... Think. Again. Aug 9 #3

Do you think Harris will win as many states as Obama did in 2008? Self Esteem Aug 9 #7

Let's not change subjects so quickly... Think. Again. Aug 9 #17

No democrattotheend Aug 10 #38

I don't think any Democratic candidate could get the same 2008 win that Obama. In It to Win It Aug 10 #95

In the first 2 weeks yes. But man, was that an ugly primary season Coexist Aug 9 #16

I don't think the OP is discussing a primary though,... Think. Again. Aug 9 #19

Yes, I know I'm saying it was a long slog before he even got the nod Coexist Aug 9 #21

I see, I just don't understand why a DU OP would attempt to squash the excitement of the Harris campaign like that. Think. Again. Aug 9 #23

I don't think you even read my OP tbh Self Esteem Aug 10 #48

I see, the "realist" perspective. How pragmatic. Think. Again. Aug 10 #53

Thank you. Self Esteem Aug 10 #59

Sadly, there seems to be a "competitive" element whathehell Aug 10 #84

It does seem weird, I don't understand why it would cross anyone's mind... Think. Again. Aug 10 #85

I know... sheshe2 Aug 10 #55

More like the Spring of 1968. Tarzanrock Aug 9 #10

Well, Kamala and Tim have only been at it for 2 weeks MagickMuffin Aug 9 #12

Actually, Kamala and Tim have only been at it for three and a half days. WheelWalker Aug 10 #65

You are correct. Kamala received our nomination Mon VP Announcement MagickMuffin Aug 10 #74

Thank you for stating the obvious. whathehell Aug 10 #71

I think the Harris buzz is at least as strong as Obama 2008 rollin74 Aug 9 #13

Some of these OTT posts in the thread are great examples of recency bias. BannonsLiver Aug 9 #14

The original OP seems to be comparing the first 2 weeks of Harris' campaign to.... Think. Again. Aug 9 #18

I didn't make the OP so I can't speak to their motivation BannonsLiver Aug 9 #20

I didn't write either but I did read it. Think. Again. Aug 9 #22

That's good. BannonsLiver Aug 9 #25

What would one consider the height of the Obama campaign? Self Esteem Aug 10 #40

I don't think your post is concerned with the peak of Obama's primary campaign... Think. Again. Aug 10 #51

My post is clear. Self Esteem Aug 10 #56

I see, your post is comparing the strength of Obama's win to the first 2 weeks of Harris' campaign. Thanks. Think. Again. Aug 10 #61

My local Democratic headquarters says they've never Johnny2X2X Aug 9 #24

Wait until the convention and the debate. Klarkashton Aug 9 #26

Remind me of 2008.What's more hatred for the opponent ent Tribetime Aug 9 #27

I would be shocked if Harris won nearly as many electoral votes as Obama did in 2008. Self Esteem Aug 10 #41

I'm sure you would.. whathehell Aug 10 #72

I'm thrilled but I also know this is a very divisive electorate. 2008 wasn't nearly as divisive, unfortunately. Self Esteem Aug 10 #73

True, but I don't think Obama could win that many electoral votes today democrattotheend Aug 10 #96

I agree... Self Esteem Aug 10 #97

Obama was magic on the stump democrattotheend Aug 13 #100

This was a much bigger crowd than Obama had in Phoenix AZSkiffyGeek Aug 9 #28

What's the point of this? Pinback Aug 9 #30

Exactly - this post is lame FrankBooth Aug 9 #37

It's not pointless. Self Esteem Aug 10 #46

Ok, sure FrankBooth Aug 10 #82

Thanks for the substantive reply! Self Esteem Aug 10 #42

Kamala Harris has just as much enthusiasm as Barack Obama had, gab13by13 Aug 9 #32

If I wrote that, I would be lying. Self Esteem Aug 10 #43

Just an FYI ColinC Aug 10 #50

FYI Self Esteem Aug 10 #52

You have blue cities LIKE LA or Chicago. Harris is breaking records in purple and red cities: this is beyond Obama 2008 ColinC Aug 10 #54

Des Moines is not a blue city like LA or Chicago. Self Esteem Aug 10 #57

Yes it is ColinC Aug 10 #58

Then so is Phoenix lmao Self Esteem Aug 10 #60

Stop bashing democrats ColinC Aug 10 #62

If I'm bashing Democrats, you are too. Self Esteem Aug 10 #64

What are the objective, peer-reviewed metrics of enthusiam? Torchlight Aug 18 #106

I don't know... Self Esteem Aug 18 #107

Asserting in your original premise that support/enthusiam Torchlight Aug 18 #108

Very deep and insightful. jimfields33 Aug 19 #110

You've never been to Des Moines uponit7771 Aug 10 #93

2008 Obama had more than a year to get to that level.2012 Obama had 4 years to get to that level ColinC Aug 9 #35

Yeah but she won't. Self Esteem Aug 10 #44

Putting breaks on things is the opposite of what we need to do ColinC Aug 10 #49

Pretending this will be a blowout helps no one. Self Esteem Aug 10 #66

Pretending it will be a blowout and capitalizing on energy to turn it into one: ColinC Aug 10 #67

Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Aug 10 #45

Can you be a bit more specific? Self Esteem Aug 10 #47

Okay. H2O Man Aug 10 #80

Thank you Self Esteem Aug 10 #83

On paper, H2O Man Aug 10 #86

A while back, H2O Man Aug 10 #89

In 2008 snpsmom Aug 13 #104

I think that the buzz is to Obama 2008 levels.. whathehell Aug 10 #69

I'm thinking the turnout can be at Obama levels later on, Obama had 6 months of campaigning and great speeches uponit7771 Aug 10 #94

That works for me. whathehell Aug 10 #99

Obama had a mountain of mess to clean up: Iraq, housing crisis, banking crisis, auto industry Bucky Aug 10 #75

Why is it so discouraged by many here displacedvermoter Aug 10 #76

LOL! What a dopey argument this thread has become. "Is the enthusiasm like 2008 or 2012??!1!?" Scrivener7 Aug 10 #77

Damn, people. Give the lady a chance. Less than a month in, she's doing great. mucholderthandirt Aug 10 #79

The Harris campain is higher than 2008. Stop putting our nominee down. Demsrule86 Aug 10 #81

I believe it is around 2008 level but this time Tribetime Aug 13 #102

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 10 #87

Feels more like 1992- generational change after JCMach1 Aug 10 #88

WRONG!!! New Breed Leader Aug 10 #90

Until you can find an auditorium that houses 100,000 people ColinC Aug 10 #91

I'll take dumb internet arguments for $100 Alex. BootinUp Aug 10 #92

Enjoy your stay. Basso8vb Aug 13 #103

I think it's mostly like Clinton 1992 TRHST82 Aug 13 #105

This is it exactly... Enthusiasm and generational change JCMach1 Aug 19 #111