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Squinch

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33. I work in very bad areas. I have had guns pointed at me on three occasions in the past 10 years.

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:35 PM

Jan 2013

In two of those three occasions, if I were carrying a gun, I would be dead today. In the third, the police subdued the gunmen before anything happened, so my carrying a gun would not have been helpful.

I venture to say the vast majority of gun advocates arguing for more people to be armed have never been in a gun situation. They have completely unrealistic expectations of what a gun would do for them. They have some childish fantasy that the gun makes them heroic and unassailable.

That attitude is idiotic.

Would I kill to save my own life? Are you certain that when you went to kill you would be successful? Are you certain that it would not make you MORE vulnerable?

I don't believe attempts at killing WOULD save my life. And I have had three experiences on which I base my opinion.

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If i am a teacher with a CCW and "a good guy with a gun" small enough to conceal [View all] Thinkingabout Jan 2013 OP

You'll become another victim, that's all. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2013 #1

Yours is a question that is too logical for Wayne LaPierre to have considered. Squinch Jan 2013 #2

A couple of ideas... Flatulo Jan 2013 #5

I work in schools. If we put weapons in the classrooms, I will stop doing so. So will many others. Squinch Jan 2013 #30

Aside from inside a school, would you kill to save your own life? Just trying to understand Flatulo Jan 2013 #32

I work in very bad areas. I have had guns pointed at me on three occasions in the past 10 years. Squinch Jan 2013 #33

Thanks for sharing those stories. You certainly have had enough bad experiences with guns Flatulo Jan 2013 #39

Arming teachers is not a very good idea. They're just not trained for it, and I agree that a Flatulo Jan 2013 #3

I really don't get the need for CCW rightsideout Jan 2013 #4

I think the very first priority should be to protect our children. If this requires someone Flatulo Jan 2013 #6

What if a student got a hold of the gun? DebJ Jan 2013 #7

And we won't spend money on textbooks, but now we're going to spend the money to arm the Squinch Jan 2013 #38

It's better than throwing books....that being said carrying a PSD ileus Jan 2013 #8

Look you're getting it all wrong... repeat after me: OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #9

Proactive vs. Reactive Heimer Jan 2013 #22

Um... Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #23

Ahhh i see. Heimer Jan 2013 #24

Hopefully we'll trust you to dispense Tylenol to your students gollygee Jan 2013 #10

Yep. Exactly. nt Chorophyll Jan 2013 #13

"Good Guy With A Gun"... KharmaTrain Jan 2013 #11

Either or.... loose wheel Jan 2013 #14

Projection Games Won't Work Here... KharmaTrain Jan 2013 #16

Guns aren't the problem loose wheel Jan 2013 #18

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #19

Why? loose wheel Jan 2013 #21

bullshit spanone Jan 2013 #26

Are you suggesting that there is some moral wiggle room for people who go into schools and Flatulo Jan 2013 #42

A classroom is a tight small space loose wheel Jan 2013 #12

20 meters...? 60 feet...? Ever been in a combat situation? Ever hear of "buck fever"? nt Bigmack Jan 2013 #27

yes and yes. loose wheel Jan 2013 #31

The firefights I was in must have been different from yours... Bigmack Jan 2013 #35

That video was rigged for the armed student to fail. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #36

I had training as well loose wheel Jan 2013 #40

How about the trained Special Forces guys... Bigmack Jan 2013 #41

... loose wheel Jan 2013 #43

There are other reasons to own such weapons hack89 Jan 2013 #15

A few things Recursion Jan 2013 #17

I think that we should install a gun emplacement in each classroom Orrex Jan 2013 #20

Funky Winkerbean. JohnnyRingo Jan 2013 #29

"Good guy" and "Bad guy" are absolutisms, and very naive. The world is not black and white. For Erose999 Jan 2013 #25

Very good point. JohnnyRingo Jan 2013 #28

About the Giffords shooting loose wheel Jan 2013 #44

Let's be honest shall we? Savannahmann Jan 2013 #34

Let's be honest, shall we? GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #37