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90-percent

(6,828 posts)
344. Preventable
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 08:38 PM
Jun 2013

Yeah, it's not possible to bring any of the categories mentioned down to zero deaths. BUT, in the case of all things mentioned, governmental efforts can bring all those numbers dramatically lower. If you lower all categories by 10% across the board over the same time period, that would be 2 million (2,000,000) lives saved. I think it's fair to postulate that if the government had poured the same resources into preventable deaths that they did in building the current NATIONAL SECURITY STATE, a ten percent reduction is a reasonable assumption in the same time period since 9-11.

"terrorist attacks prod us into wars." Define "us", Kimosabe? The run up to the Iraq Invasion sparked the largest turn out in world wide anti-war protests in the history of the universe. We the people sure as hell didn't want to invade Iraq! It was our neocon GWB White House that wanted to invade Iraq. We as a country were terrified, but I think there was a decent consensus we at least wanted to bring the 9-11 plotters to JUSTICE, which is a hell of a lot different than invading a country that had nothing to do with 9-11 what so ever. I think we were all supportive for invading Afghanistan after 9-11. That was where most of the plotters could be located, based on info of that time.

Terrorist Attacks prodded OUR GOVERNMENT into starting a war. With our MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-CONGRESSIONAL-SECURITY-Complexes ever growing lust for profit making wars and conflicts, the USA, especially under GWB, would go to war if another punk ass country without nukes even looks at us funny.

The invasion of Iraq was an act of treason by the GWB White House. The fecklessness and waste of how the war was conducted was also treason. Incompetence so tremendous, it bore the weight of full blown treason.

The invasion of Iraq was another artifact that proves our democracy is being stolen. The first proof of democracy demolition was of course the 2000 Bush v. Gore Supreme Court Decision. The magnitude of just how much our Democracy is being murdered by design has become in your face clear with these recent FISA/NSA revelations.

The list of freedoms and rights lost, surveillance mechanisms built and practicing the governance of middle ages monarchs are pointing in the direction of a national police state governmental infrastructure. I think we are perhaps only two or three election cycles to reach this tipping point as described by Frank Zappa.

“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

America is a police state, although we are only at the stage where the tiny beak is starting to break through the eggshell.

Thanks for your comments. Insightful and thought provoking. It sparked me to try to further refine what exactly is pissing me the hell off about our It's alive, IT'S ALIVE!!!! Police State.

-90% Jimmy

The NSA is not a 'spy program'. It's a legal program voted on and passed by the US Congress. Tx4obama Jun 2013 #1
What makes the politicans do anything? Public pressure. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #5
Also, being "legal" is somewhat of a mockery when those who break the law can lobby GoneFishin Jun 2013 #123
Babies and bath water WovenGems Jun 2013 #129
I disagree nebenaube Jun 2013 #159
... SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #303
It was never necessary at all. Of course they had to include some reasonable stuff otherwise the sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #389
Public Pressure 90-percent Jun 2013 #277
A majority polled were in favor of single payer health care as well. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2013 #300
It's only "legal" if you're willing to ignore the 4th Amendment CanonRay Jun 2013 #317
well-said Vattel Jun 2013 #374
+1 liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #396
As John Oliver says...the surprising thing is he didn't need to break the law. dkf Jun 2013 #6
The NSA has become a spy program. I have been spied on according to what the president sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #22
Well said TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #86
+1. nt historylovr Jun 2013 #143
WTF squared 90-percent Jun 2013 #172
spot on blackspade Jun 2013 #257
Alzheimer's is preventable? You have a cure?!? ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2013 #299
Greed prods us into wars. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #304
Hmmm. Quit killing foreign kids for money, mbperrin Jun 2013 #327
Preventable 90-percent Jun 2013 #344
I agree in part, disagree in part ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2013 #397
+1 leftstreet Jun 2013 #206
Hear Hear snagglepuss Jun 2013 #251
Right as always, Sabrina. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #306
Thanks for your post DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #24
Trash Tx4obama Jun 2013 #25
Kitchen garbage can. It's a more apt analogy w/what NSA does anyway. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #32
You don't understand what spying is. Legality is a separate issue. Bradical79 Jun 2013 #176
Your faith in Court rulings is touching pscot Jun 2013 #203
I don't recall Caretha Jun 2013 #339
The NSA is not accessing 'your phone' they are accessing the tele-coms records/database Tx4obama Jun 2013 #348
really Caretha Jun 2013 #368
I spend hours shredding old documents that I was supposed to JDPriestly Jun 2013 #61
Indeed. The ability to extrapolate is a skill set in demand. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #282
People with a conscience and a dedication to democracy need not apply. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #301
"Just because NSA stored meta-data doesn't mean that 'everyone' is being 'spied' on." HiPointDem Jun 2013 #27
If you're carrying your cellphone with you, someone--and not Uncle Sam-- MADem Jun 2013 #62
i don't have a cell phone, i don't use atms, i don't have an ez pass, i don't use credit cards, i HiPointDem Jun 2013 #77
I don't have to "try again." See, you are a distinct minority. You are such MADem Jun 2013 #85
You appear to be saying that because people leave 'electronic footprints' in their commercial life, HiPointDem Jun 2013 #87
What I am saying is that, by leaving evidence of their activities hither and yon, that their MADem Jun 2013 #99
ridiculous. that's like saying because you have to go outside to get to someone else's house, HiPointDem Jun 2013 #100
No, that's not what it says at all, and it's not "ridiculous." MADem Jun 2013 #102
i didn't call you any names. i said your claim was ridiculous. which it is. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #106
Well, it's not, just because you say so. Your pronouncement lacks weight. MADem Jun 2013 #109
ah, yes, 'weight'. the thing one gains by membership in the security apparatus. kind of a catch-22. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #110
We're done. Have the last word if you must. nt MADem Jun 2013 #111
Also by using rational arguments, LanternWaste Jun 2013 #273
you must have missed the rest of the thread. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #291
Thanks MADem for posting thucythucy Jun 2013 #361
I get mail delivered to my mail box. So that diminshes my expectation that my neighbors will not sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #285
You've been under surveillance for decades, if you define it by license plates. MADem Jun 2013 #305
Roe Vs Wade affirms our right to privacy. alfredo Jun 2013 #295
He's not so much of an outlier. I know quite a few people like him. Mostly rural, mostly poor. TalkingDog Jun 2013 #182
Even people without toll roads in their state get drivers licenses, register their cars, MADem Jun 2013 #380
It's all about you treestar Jun 2013 #126
we find out you haven't read the subthread thoroughly HiPointDem Jun 2013 #225
But obviously you use a computer or other Internet device. totodeinhere Jun 2013 #382
& i recognize that. potentially. but i'll add: that vulnerability has nothing to do with my HiPointDem Jun 2013 #388
And I agree to that with those vendors when I enter into a contract joeglow3 Jun 2013 #141
I too noticed that it was an apples and oranges argument. n/t A Simple Game Jun 2013 #208
Generally speaking, there usually is a clause thucythucy Jun 2013 #367
What Metadata is (courtesy of EFF) Anymouse Jun 2013 #313
"What they are trying to say is that disclosure of metadata isn't a big deal" = bullshit. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #331
Make sure you don't use certain words . . . Anymouse Jun 2013 #400
The NSA stores data about our associations. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #55
The Supreme Court ruled in 1979 that phone records are not protected by the 4th amendment Tx4obama Jun 2013 #70
At that time, the issue was quite different than it is today. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #78
I'm hoping you're right about this. thucythucy Jun 2013 #363
Here They Are Establishing That Metadata Is Not Protected DallasNE Jun 2013 #84
So? That makes it ok in your opinion? bowens43 Jun 2013 #104
What's really pathetic cheapdate Jun 2013 #169
They are defending it AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #214
You're wrong. cheapdate Jun 2013 #269
Your attempts at insults aside, they are defending it AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #310
Claiming your opponent is a mindless member of a "cult of personality" cheapdate Jun 2013 #316
Great post! Number23 Jun 2013 #323
Your words, not mine AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #329
Thank you cheapdate. thucythucy Jun 2013 #365
And you havent seen this on this site for years? 7962 Jun 2013 #372
Informed arguments are what drew me to DU. cheapdate Jun 2013 #394
Just because Caretha Jun 2013 #341
Thank you ! treestar Jun 2013 #131
Actually, It Doesn't DallasNE Jun 2013 #88
thank you Tx4obama excellent post NT sigmasix Jun 2013 #64
Wow. I so amazed to see people here defending this gross violation of the Constitution. bowens43 Jun 2013 #103
I'm stunned Maedhros Jun 2013 #236
I'm not amazed anymore harun Jun 2013 #247
The difference is that Grayson is a DUer and Franklin isn't. intheflow Jun 2013 #122
It is a spy program. morningfog Jun 2013 #139
The National Security Agency Maedhros Jun 2013 #241
So, what is the purpose of this legal sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #157
Every single thing you just said is inaccurate, except that Grayson, Franken and Obama shouldn't be leveymg Jun 2013 #178
What a stinking cesspool of shit. Legal does not make it right. L0oniX Jun 2013 #212
I must respectfully disagree...... Swede Atlanta Jun 2013 #221
It is a spy program. Lots of terrible things were 'legal'. Ash_F Jun 2013 #223
Keep telling yourself that. Apophis Jun 2013 #238
I think that Obama had to keep up the bush movonne Jun 2013 #261
What makes you think it's not a "spy program" MNBrewer Jun 2013 #270
Having trouble swallowing the word "spy"?? THe NSA does surveillance. You act like you rhett o rick Jun 2013 #298
How does that stop it from being a spy program? quakerboy Jun 2013 #319
Are you saying that spying is illegal by nature? mbperrin Jun 2013 #326
Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) was passed by Congress and is "legal", too Roland99 Jun 2013 #342
Just because VA_Jill Jun 2013 #369
Oh, give it up already Ter Jun 2013 #402
I highly doubt Grayson posted that crap. Maybe one of his staffers. The hyperbole deserved ridicule. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #2
Why wouldn't he? He posts here off and on, and has done so for quite awhile. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #3
The posts here are of the same kind of boilerplate stuff I get from my senator and bike man Jun 2013 #336
Yes, but...he posts here. Personally. Non-boilerplate stuff. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #338
Or, a staff member does. Checked several journal entries at random, and bike man Jun 2013 #340
It's very telling Maedhros Jun 2013 #244
Who let you out of Free Republic? brentspeak Jun 2013 #325
Absolutely no class. nt Bonobo Jun 2013 #4
I think he can take it. It's not as though anything intellegent was thrown at him. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #7
I know Alan Grayson can take it DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #14
This ^^^ Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #29
"I'm not sure if the Democratic Party can ... Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #35
Thanks so much DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #45
Ah, to be twenty-two again ... Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #50
Happy 23'rd, and make it a super day! DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #54
Well, congrats!!! Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #59
Well, I'm 52 and the poster leftynyc Jun 2013 #93
Oh my God. I have just about died reading this OP Number23 Jun 2013 #48
Thanks for reading, #. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #49
It's my pleasure. One usually has to deal with winos on street corners to get this level of Number23 Jun 2013 #52
Nothing short of. Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #58
Judging by the voluminous number of some of their posts I would say not. 4bucksagallon Jun 2013 #150
link reusrename Jun 2013 #224
I believe I already mentioned to you this is more about embarrassment at your actions than about DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #274
Worthy of being bronzed, isn't it? n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #65
Well, I'm still trying to figure out how your post saying Aretha Franklin's sister was Urethra Number23 Jun 2013 #98
Yeah, it's pretty rich, isn't it... SidDithers Jun 2013 #121
I'm surprised that obvious call out was locked considering how reluctant some are to lock others Number23 Jun 2013 #322
Sorry, but the Third Way sock puppet Borg Collective is not the real world. Zorra Jun 2013 #115
LOL Zorra Oilwellian Jun 2013 #145
right backatcha, darlin' Zorra Jun 2013 #171
Well, according to some here Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #391
*real world reference* frylock Jun 2013 #189
I should have posted the "spoiler warning" Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #392
drink up! frylock Jun 2013 #393
There are views being expressed on this subject sibelian Jun 2013 #91
Leave Alan alone! treestar Jun 2013 #133
If that's your summarization of the OP DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #137
Ironic. NealK Jun 2013 #359
I usually don't post in these types of threads but... kentuck Jun 2013 #8
Eternal September, am I right? nt Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #154
I wish I knew what you were talking about?? kentuck Jun 2013 #185
Eternal September (also September that never ended)[1] began September 1993, Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #195
Thanks! kentuck Jun 2013 #240
It is good to remember the old lore! :) nt Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #242
They behave like frightened children, OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #9
Wow, that was mature. Skidmore Jun 2013 #231
Now, now. OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #237
i think threads like this are more embarrassing JI7 Jun 2013 #10
What in particular embarrasses you about it? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #51
+1...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #117
how classy is it to call the democratic President all the names he has been called here for years? Whisp Jun 2013 #11
Apples and Oranges RobertEarl Jun 2013 #15
You take care of your own apples and oranges Whisp Jun 2013 #18
Grayson is a congressman RobertEarl Jun 2013 #23
your baiting is not working. Whisp Jun 2013 #26
I only go by your words here RobertEarl Jun 2013 #34
whatsamatta, somebody steal your sweet roll? Whisp Jun 2013 #39
Claiming you lost? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #43
I tend to agree it is over the top davidpdx Jun 2013 #387
You're a little out of control DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #47
lol? Whisp Jun 2013 #53
He speaks the truth. Sometimes it is good to step back and look at Mojorabbit Jun 2013 #113
Obama and his actions dictate how folks react to him here.. truebrit71 Jun 2013 #202
Well, just as soon as the president joins the board he can be treated like a member. reusrename Jun 2013 #226
WTF? Triana Jun 2013 #12
show some respect? Whisp Jun 2013 #19
Your bullying in this thread is noted. Triana Jun 2013 #28
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #37
What a fucking disgusting comment... GReedDiamond Jun 2013 #66
how in hell is that racist? Whisp Jun 2013 #68
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #69
don't pop a blood vessel, bro. Whisp Jun 2013 #72
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #74
do you have anger issues at home and at work as well? Whisp Jun 2013 #76
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #79
Wow, 9 hidden posts in past 90 days for you. morningfog Jun 2013 #155
Maybe someone took her sweet roll? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #204
This message was self-deleted by its author L0oniX Jun 2013 #215
You don't think other members here deserve any respect? reusrename Jun 2013 #229
it's the swooners Skittles Jun 2013 #13
I'd ask you to schedule one of your famous ass-kickings DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #30
I think Rep Grayson is right. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #16
An Imperial Executive is a bad idea, whether a D or R after the name. Laelth Jun 2013 #105
We have our right wing here as well, and they're every bit as moronic, juvenile, and rude as Marr Jun 2013 #17
Appears to be the case... kentuck Jun 2013 #20
The right-wingers used to get tombstoned Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #33
Now they've reached middle management. OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #41
And now they are welcomed Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #46
"The right-wingers used to get tombstoned", I raised that question a while back Corruption Inc Jun 2013 #71
agreed. i've had a couple posts hidden because some obvious troll.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #379
You're probably right. But also there are plenty of good caring Democrats who totodeinhere Jun 2013 #383
EMBARRASSING!! For a Congressman to go against his own party based on high principles takes guts Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #21
The congressman's campaign staffer made a foolish post that deserves ridicule. tritsofme Jun 2013 #31
It's actually posted under his login DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #38
I was giving him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't personally post this nonsense tritsofme Jun 2013 #158
No, just condescending and childish... truebrit71 Jun 2013 #211
There is a cadre of posters whose pattern Maedhros Jun 2013 #254
Yep, it's like they're using a playbook........ marmar Jun 2013 #370
Kind....No Caretha Jun 2013 #375
Grayson SamKnause Jun 2013 #36
Under his own name DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #40
Grayson 2 SamKnause Jun 2013 #42
that was truly a great night for the progressives across this country, getting him back in DC! n/t Divine Discontent Jun 2013 #67
Yipee, youbetcha! ;-) n/t ReRe Jun 2013 #83
Hooray!!!! reusrename Jun 2013 #248
Keeping "Underground" in this site's name is now, sadly, an outright farce villager Jun 2013 #44
and others run bliindly to believe a fricken Fibber McGee liar in Glen Greenwad. n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #57
You go on believing who the NSA tells you to believe, O "Underground" one villager Jun 2013 #60
You slander Glenn Greenwald Maedhros Jun 2013 #256
Was he also a fricken Fibber McGee liar when he was excoriating GWB on any number totodeinhere Jun 2013 #385
It's embarrassing for those who choose to say such things against a great American hero Divine Discontent Jun 2013 #56
+1000 darkangel218 Jun 2013 #82
TY! Divine Discontent Jun 2013 #347
+1. Our house is divided because it has been invaded by conservative corporatists who have more in Zorra Jun 2013 #149
True that. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #199
BINGO!!!! truebrit71 Jun 2013 #213
GP, Zorra! n/t Divine Discontent Jun 2013 #345
+1000 snagglepuss Jun 2013 #252
TY! Divine Discontent Jun 2013 #346
I think everyone here is just paranoid that their porn surfing is being monitored. railsback Jun 2013 #63
Since you are getting all these recs for your fake outrage......... 4bucksagallon Jun 2013 #73
Embarrassment more than outrage DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #80
Again show me where I said that I think you have reading comprehension.... 4bucksagallon Jun 2013 #81
Do not dispair railsback Jun 2013 #90
Dispair? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #200
Dispair - Band - Armageddon - don't nuke yourself railsback Jun 2013 #267
Maybe you should get a dictionary HangOnKids Jun 2013 #276
Your powers of assumption are amazing railsback Jun 2013 #279
Maybe you should get a dictionary HangOnKids Jun 2013 #283
Oh, I get it. A Snowden defender railsback Jun 2013 #286
Looks Like You Better Keep Right With The Slower Traffic HangOnKids Jun 2013 #288
LoL, you got faced railsback Jun 2013 #289
Well done... SidDithers Jun 2013 #292
There is a problem HangOnKids Jun 2013 #278
Sorry that I don't live in a dream world like some of you seem to. 4bucksagallon Jun 2013 #333
hate, hate, and more hate carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #107
Explain it to me like I'm a ten-year-old. reusrename Jun 2013 #245
I rec'd his thread and the other one about him and support him fully. freshwest Jun 2013 #75
It is truly annoying... ReRe Jun 2013 #89
ah, it's the old double standard with the cult of personality. graham4anything Jun 2013 #92
You don't see the difference. Bonobo Jun 2013 #94
Actually, the man in the gaberdine suit is a spy. She said be careful, his bowtie is really a camera graham4anything Jun 2013 #95
It's "raincoat" Bonobo Jun 2013 #96
be back later, gotta go to my wellness program graham4anything Jun 2013 #97
Yep, it's the hypocrisy, stupid! nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #183
When Obama joins the board it will be hypocritical. reusrename Jun 2013 #253
That was not Congressman Grayson. It was a staffer. Hypocrisy stands. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #263
Are you arguing that Grayson is NOT a member of this board? reusrename Jun 2013 #266
Are you arguing that the congressman himself is taking time out of his day to post here? stevenleser Jun 2013 #271
Is this the standard for accuracy you use to vet material for your radio program? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #272
I'll do you one better. I will call his office and find out for sure. I've wanted to have him on my stevenleser Jun 2013 #275
Great. While you're on the phone, would you also ask DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #281
Again I will do you one better. I will ask him the "Do you personally post.." question on the air stevenleser Jun 2013 #284
fair enough, r.e. drunk. That was SidDithers in a fit of pique. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #287
I love that my comment has got you so incensed... SidDithers Jun 2013 #293
What have you learned? Owl Jun 2013 #354
As soon as I find out I will let you all know. Nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #366
Update: the congressman and I will talk on Monday. It will air next weekend. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #398
Thanks. Let me know. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #399
Don't you support Democrats?* Union Scribe Jun 2013 #384
It was disgusting. DLevine Jun 2013 #101
I'm not sure why anybody would want to lead us progressives rucky Jun 2013 #108
as they say; consider the source, consider the source Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #112
Right on! Unfortunately that thread Soundman Jun 2013 #118
What? Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #114
It was a dumbass post, and deserved to be mocked... SidDithers Jun 2013 #116
I save all my hero worship for you Sid think Jun 2013 #119
Your entire excuse for your personal attack on a liberal US Congressman is to say DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #124
I didn't attack Grayson, I attacked his post... SidDithers Jun 2013 #160
You said it sounded like he was drunk DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #161
You can edit your title to accurately reflect what you said in your post... SidDithers Jun 2013 #174
Sid, you are upsetting the sycophants! JoePhilly Jun 2013 #166
Then today is a good day... SidDithers Jun 2013 #175
No wonder those advancing the agenda of the national security apparatus never get banned. Octafish Jun 2013 #192
I don't think it is an oversight, either. reusrename Jun 2013 #258
You just don't seem to get the Irony. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #260
Pretty rich, eh?... SidDithers Jun 2013 #262
Why is a Canuck even posting here? mbperrin Jun 2013 #343
"But apparently, Grayson is above criticism." YoungDemCA Jun 2013 #234
It was ecactly who one would expect. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #120
And some criticize us for supporting treestar Jun 2013 #125
Are you justifying the behavior displayed in that other thread? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #130
Really? treestar Jun 2013 #228
I would treat the President with deference, yes DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #235
If Obama or one of his appointed surrogates posted here directly think Jun 2013 #132
It's hard to believe that treestar Jun 2013 #233
Other NSA whistle blowers are corroborating Snowden's statements. think Jun 2013 #243
I know this is a difficult concept, but you don't need to be rude to criticize policy. reusrename Jun 2013 #264
Meanwhile, is support for his bill lost here? Triana Jun 2013 #127
Imagine how Jeebus feels when he tries to discuss issues in the Religion forum. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #128
says one of the main contributors to the pool bobduca Jun 2013 #196
boduca pulls from his great wealth of experience to make this claim. All 201 posts. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #201
Gauntlet thrown, cesspool-contributor. bobduca Jun 2013 #205
That's it? That was your best shot? Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #249
Ahhh the sound of contributions bobduca Jun 2013 #350
Here's the appropriate quote from 1988 film "Off Limits"... reusrename Jun 2013 #296
Has anyone bothered to Google the canned lecture we received from "Alan Grayson"? Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #134
It's been brought up several times DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #135
Let's assume you're correct (I have no reason to feel otherwise): Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #147
I disagree, for reasons stated in the OP DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #148
Well, I didn't post in that thread at all. MineralMan Jun 2013 #136
Thanks DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #140
Thank you. The responses to Rep Grayson were disgusting magellan Jun 2013 #138
I know what you mean. I wish other Democratic leaders would post in a lot of the topics here. Sunlei Jun 2013 #142
I don't know of other elected officials who post here DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #146
All kinds of people post on DU Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #356
I've heard about BOG a lot here. I never looked at their forum until now. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #144
sorry for the question, what is BOG? :) Sunlei Jun 2013 #151
It's ok...I had the same question when I started seeing the acronym DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #152
ahhh, lol thanks. so many groups here, if the President posts in his 'BOG' that would be cool. Sunlei Jun 2013 #163
Yep. I've come to consider that forum little more than the Asshole Club House. Marr Jun 2013 #165
what is intended to defend the president actually disgraces him carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #190
^^this^^ n/t RainDog Jun 2013 #250
I think that is the objective, the pretense of being 'supporters' is belied by the actions Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #290
They are the BOrG and it is a cesspool BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #255
That's an excellent point. Marr Jun 2013 #360
They also claim the President is powerless to do anything BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #371
It is not easy for the President to enact laws by a signing order. You are really akbacchus_BC Jun 2013 #386
Agreed! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #153
I'm really sorry to hear this... haikugal Jun 2013 #156
It's Okay to attack a Democratic president, but not a Congressman who piles on Progressive dog Jun 2013 #162
read the OP again. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #164
You read it again, Progressive dog Jun 2013 #170
to be clear, my alerted and deleted post was clear sarcasm galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #167
can we get a link to that? stupidicus Jun 2013 #168
Sure. Link here. Electric Monk Jun 2013 #312
thanks dude stupidicus Jun 2013 #349
I think Mr. Grayson's skin is sufficiently thick for him to survive a bit of teasing. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #173
Greyson RAWKS! Anybody who dissed him is *no* Dem! n/t mntleo2 Jun 2013 #177
K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #179
If we search through your posts, how many criticisms of Obama supporters will we see where you stevenleser Jun 2013 #180
Ssshhh. Don't disturb them. They're looking to see if Grayson has a girlfriend in Hawaii. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #181
I agree with him, but he doesn't need his ass kissed here. Dash87 Jun 2013 #184
So this means there are literally no acceptable elected representatives any more? BobTheSubgenius Jun 2013 #186
it's fucking pathetic and every one of them will yelp like dogs when president jeb has these powers frylock Jun 2013 #187
To the contrary, I think some of them will drift back to the shadows, smiling, if that happens. nt Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #188
Have you ever noticed how the conservatives seem to get the best jobs, contracts, etc? Octafish Jun 2013 #194
I think it's better to hamster Jun 2013 #191
Rude behavior is now the norm. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #193
Indeed. truebrit71 Jun 2013 #197
I'd be very surprised if it was actually Congressman Grayson and not an aide. Arkana Jun 2013 #198
Those ninnies are names to put on your Ignore List. nt valerief Jun 2013 #207
Sooooooo meta. Threads on DU about DU are super awesome, yo! alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #209
The worshipers have really lowered the bar here. You can't talk to blind obedience. L0oniX Jun 2013 #210
... Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #216
X 1000 ctsnowman Jun 2013 #217
There has been a change @ DU zeeland Jun 2013 #218
That's funny, I see it completely differently Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #297
The hordes that despised Obama zeeland Jun 2013 #314
Over-the-top fundraising appeals can be pretty can be pretty humorous Freddie Stubbs Jun 2013 #219
So you complain because some will not brook a discussion of the President being wrong -- ironic that karynnj Jun 2013 #220
The frothing death kicks of the 'moderate centrist' Blue Baggers and Tea Dogs Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #222
It's pathetic, isn't it? YoungDemCA Jun 2013 #227
+1 noiretextatique Jun 2013 #302
Is it really the Congressman making the posts, or is it a staff member or volunteer making bike man Jun 2013 #230
Gee Why Don't You Call Him? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #239
Gee, with all the conjecture rampant on various forums, what is one more bike man Jun 2013 #268
Good give him a call HangOnKids Jun 2013 #280
No need for me to. There's a poster upthread who said he/she is going to. bike man Jun 2013 #318
My Hackles Up? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #321
Grayson was willing to call the Republicans on their self-serving horseshit... YoungDemCA Jun 2013 #232
I'm confused. I see people accusing those who defend the president as... Moonwalk Jun 2013 #246
+1000 blackspade Jun 2013 #259
We often unknowingly illustrate our own characters when attending to minimizing others. LanternWaste Jun 2013 #265
ironic HiPointDem Jun 2013 #294
Accuracy often is. LanternWaste Jun 2013 #334
yes, but not in the way you think HiPointDem Jun 2013 #335
It's embarrassing for a liberal Congressman to have to battle a Dem president on so Doctor_J Jun 2013 #307
Oh please. Politics and "getting made fun of to your face" have been going hand in hand for decades LaydeeBug Jun 2013 #308
REALLY??? guyfromla Jun 2013 #309
You must have read the OP too quickly. I think you'll see upon re-reading that I agree with DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #315
The solution is a gun-phone . . . Anymouse Jun 2013 #311
Grayson is on DU? LittleBlue Jun 2013 #320
I am not sure I get the connection to be honest. cstanleytech Jun 2013 #324
Rep. Grayson, attacked on D. U.? Wednesdays Jun 2013 #328
They're some of DU's nastiest posters... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2013 #357
I wish him well, but, Baitball Blogger Jun 2013 #330
I am so saddened by this too. Curmudgeoness Jun 2013 #332
Good manners are never a bad choice. DonRedwood Jun 2013 #337
One of the biggest issues in this country is the loss of civility and common courtesy... KauaiK Jun 2013 #351
And in DU. EOM cartach Jun 2013 #352
The authoritarians can not help themselves usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #353
Imagine that, low-brow behavior here. freemay20 Jun 2013 #355
I concur ElsewheresDaughter Jun 2013 #358
aaa aw, it's working like a charm... 4 t 4 Jun 2013 #362
Some people have no class. 99Forever Jun 2013 #364
I think Representative Grayson can handle it... Hulk Jun 2013 #373
+ 2.73 Gazillion!!! \n Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #376
If the Grayson that posted here can't take a little criticism... Agnosticsherbet Jun 2013 #377
anyone have a link? i didn't see grayson's post. DesertFlower Jun 2013 #378
Here. totodeinhere Jun 2013 #381
thank you. nt DesertFlower Jun 2013 #390
All politics is local. Baitball Blogger Jun 2013 #395
My favorite US REP is up for it, believe me. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2013 #401
Oh i am sure our fine congressperson from FLorida is used to right wing ASSHOLES in his own party. boilerbabe Jun 2013 #403
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