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In reply to the discussion: Snowden: more like Ellsberg or Benedict Arnold? [View all]think
(11,641 posts)13. The M$M that use Ellsberg's name to contrast him with Snowden might consider watching it.
Or else they might air a segment like this one that aired today where Zakaria claims that Snowden was NOT a hero by invoking Ellsberg name:
FAREED ZAKARIA GPS: Snowden and Big Data; Donilon's Exit Interview; Interview with Andrew Sullivan
Aired June 30, 2013 - 10:00 ET
~Snip~
But, first, here's my take. "One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly and with a willingness to accept the penalty." That was Martin Luther King Jr.'s definition of civil disobedience. It does not appear to be Edward Snowden's.
He has tried by every method possible to escape any judgment or punishment for his actions. Snowden's been compared to Daniel Ellsberg, the man who leaked the Pentagon Papers to the New York Times.
But Ellsberg did not hop on a plane to Hong Kong or Moscow once he had unloaded his cache of documents. He stood trial and faced the possibility of more than 100 years in prison before the court dismissed the case against him because of the prosecution's mistakes and abuses of justice.
Mahatma Gandhi and Jawaharlal Nehru spent years in prison in India for defying colonial British colonial rule in their native land. So, while Snowden is no hero, his revelations have focused attention on a brave new world of total information.
~Snip~
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1306/30/fzgps.01.html
Aired June 30, 2013 - 10:00 ET
~Snip~
But, first, here's my take. "One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly and with a willingness to accept the penalty." That was Martin Luther King Jr.'s definition of civil disobedience. It does not appear to be Edward Snowden's.
He has tried by every method possible to escape any judgment or punishment for his actions. Snowden's been compared to Daniel Ellsberg, the man who leaked the Pentagon Papers to the New York Times.
But Ellsberg did not hop on a plane to Hong Kong or Moscow once he had unloaded his cache of documents. He stood trial and faced the possibility of more than 100 years in prison before the court dismissed the case against him because of the prosecution's mistakes and abuses of justice.
Mahatma Gandhi and Jawaharlal Nehru spent years in prison in India for defying colonial British colonial rule in their native land. So, while Snowden is no hero, his revelations have focused attention on a brave new world of total information.
~Snip~
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1306/30/fzgps.01.html
The irony of using Daniel Ellsberg's name to say that person is not a hero while Ellsberg is very publicly calling him a patriot AND a hero is mind numbing...
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Because it would destroy his cult's "the MSM can't be trusted" talking point.
Galraedia
Jul 2013
#34
What is your opinion of Daniel Ellsberg? Does his opinion count in regards to whistle blowing?
think
Jul 2013
#35
Ellsberg has plenty to say about all this if people would take the time to listen:
think
Jul 2013
#5
The M$M that use Ellsberg's name to contrast him with Snowden might consider watching it.
think
Jul 2013
#13
Better watch out, "they" will try to hide this one too. I thought the calling all rodentcopulaters
Zorra
Jul 2013
#10
He's no Ellsburg, but he's not fit to be compared to Benedict Arnold either
WatermelonRat
Jul 2013
#21
Is "anti-Snowdens" a phrase like "you people"?!1 Plus, I am not counted on this poll since I didn't
UTUSN
Jul 2013
#32
As a humble, simple one always striving to understand & learn, from the Urban Dictionary:
UTUSN
Jul 2013
#42
Your deep concerns have been answered. It's a feature of flaming to disregard the content of Replies
UTUSN
Jul 2013
#53
a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of the news that Tyranny is coming!
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jul 2013
#29
mine, too! However, we part company on the 'silly', it is a real work of art to me
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jul 2013
#49
Yes tyranny is coming and what better places to flee than China and Russia.
Vietnameravet
Jul 2013
#51
Ironic, isn't it... I think it speaks volumes about our current national security state, eh?
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jul 2013
#52