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DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
6. Conservatives require an underclass or three to abuse.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:07 PM
Jul 2013

Every "issue" for them seems to be a fight to put some entire class of people down into a substrata where they can be mistreated. Classified as less than people. Jailed, stripped, PROBED.

We know there is an ugly tendency for some people to view their own happiness or success more in terms of being better off than someone else than in being okay themselves.

Undocumented immigrants are "illegals" -- like that's a kind of person, who have no civil rights and can be grossly underpaid / mistreated. Not really people, you know. Punish them. Break up their families. Ship them back.

They framed preventing gay people from marrying as "defending traditional marriage." What they meant was their marriages would mean less if they couldn't deny them to others. It makes them sad to see other people happy.

"Terrorists" and "traitors" are now anyone who rocks the boat. Again, no civil rights. That's VERY important. No jury trial. Imprison them forever. Strip them. Blow up their children from a distance.

And women. Women are apparently the last, most ancient, most cherished underclass. Their sex is a constant temptation and danger to us all. Their cries of rape are to be mistrusted. They are guilty of depriving men of their sons on a whim. They must be taught shame, over and over again.

Who's the next underclass? Who's going to be redefined as subhuman? Teachers, maybe? Certainly low-wage workers.

These are cowards who think so little of their own worth that the only way they can face life is if someone else is made to suffer more. For their skin color or their religion or orientation or gender or their ideas. There's always a justification for them -- some "those people" who don't count, who have no rights, who exist to be abused.

You know what is hysterical? [View all] nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 OP
True, but terrorism is an actual threat, my uterus isn't. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #1
Terrorism usually is handled as a police matter. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #2
i agree. nt DesertFlower Jul 2013 #3
No, neither of them is. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #5
It's not just about 9/11, it's global, with money flowing through charities and JaneyVee Jul 2013 #10
Terrorism is a tactic, not some kind of "ism" truebluegreen Jul 2013 #12
I get it, terrorism is an "idea", but threats of it to the international community JaneyVee Jul 2013 #14
No, it is not an "idea" like a philosophy or truebluegreen Jul 2013 #15
I agree, but can't counter-terrorism actually be productive in preventing war? JaneyVee Jul 2013 #20
What would we need it for? Hydra Jul 2013 #35
Well we tried practicing counter-terrorism in Vietnam, and Afghanistan. truebluegreen Jul 2013 #64
This post and your response preceding it are brilliant RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #46
Thanks. truebluegreen Jul 2013 #65
"Terrorism" is the new apartheid. reusrename Jul 2013 #56
"terrorism practiced by the strong is war; war practiced by the weak is terrorism" - that aphorism, HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #44
Thank you, but I can't claim credit. truebluegreen Jul 2013 #66
Please. You seem like a rational, thinking human being. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #13
My life has already been effected by terrorism. Not looking forward to it happening again. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #16
Mine too! hrmjustin Jul 2013 #19
Then just like Garp, you are that much safer than the rest of us. Quit being a sucker. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #32
Why is it being a sucker to worry about terrorism. I live in NYC and take the trains all the time. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #33
Because you are not in any imminent danger. You are far more likely, living in NYC, Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #39
Well I agree it is unlikely and it does not rule my life. I also agree that the fearof terrorism has hrmjustin Jul 2013 #40
So is contracting the West Nile Virus. The point is that worrying about it, Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #42
Point taken! hrmjustin Jul 2013 #43
You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a domestic law enforcement officer than HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #48
Because there are far more imminent and real threats to the average American than terror. If sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #57
So you dont think our imperialists smacking the hornet's nest with drones bombings is going to be ErikJ Jul 2013 #17
No. They are justifiably enraged and have been egregiously harmed, but the bottom line in this case Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #31
What you said. zeemike Jul 2013 #18
And these fuckers are making more money from it than old Phineas could even imagine. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #55
Basic question. Does the "security state" make us safer or less safe from terrorism? BlueStreak Jul 2013 #52
Much less. It's not even honestly debatable. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #54
K&R MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #4
Conservatives require an underclass or three to abuse. DirkGently Jul 2013 #6
This is not just conservatives. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #7
It's a conservative mindset, I think. DirkGently Jul 2013 #21
Slightly disagree nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #22
There's an overlap I expect. DirkGently Jul 2013 #26
Women need to be in their place... nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #29
Authoritarians & bigots play well together. DirkGently Jul 2013 #36
Exactly nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #37
You are correct! hueymahl Jul 2013 #27
You nailed it! +1000 JeffHead Jul 2013 #8
"The Gate to Women's Country" by Sheri Tepper TheJames Jul 2013 #53
i def. realize it, they both leave me with... allin99 Jul 2013 #9
Like walls closing in nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #11
To me it feels like a cloud hanging over.... allin99 Jul 2013 #74
K & R L0oniX Jul 2013 #23
I see that. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2013 #24
yes people want to compartmentalize, marions ghost Jul 2013 #25
American Exceptionalism, Patriarchal Entitlement bluedigger Jul 2013 #28
And it is fraying now nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #30
it is funny to me ,too.... dtom67 Jul 2013 #34
Exactly. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #38
... questionseverything Jul 2013 #71
I can give you a little insight into the war on women Hydra Jul 2013 #41
I can count on Nadin to post something thought provoking curlyred Jul 2013 #45
It would be hysterical RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #47
See that union label nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #49
Looks like I have my homework for the evening RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #50
Samuel Gompers nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #51
It's funny you would use "hysterical" in a post about war on women Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #58
Yup, I did That on purpose nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #59
I see. I did read the op which is why Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #61
I guess you will have to live through it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #62
nationalism is a poison bobduca Jul 2013 #60
Yeah, but we are going from the garden variety nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #63
Bread and circuses hobbit709 Jul 2013 #67
"disregard of any privacy of citizens" is inaccurate Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #68
And the truth... nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #70
Agreed. great white snark Jul 2013 #72
Russians seem to be our closest parallels in some ways carolinayellowdog Jul 2013 #69
Exactly-- both issues are about personal space felix_numinous Jul 2013 #73
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