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Zorra

(27,670 posts)
54. Yes. It's a catch 22. The game is rigged, and is played in a maze that has no exit.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 11:05 AM
Jul 2013

The only constructive solution I can envision is worldwide mass solidarity and democratic resolve, a focused and immutable non-violent direct action bloc of widespread non-participation in the game, surrounding the powers that be and rendering them incapable of subverting the democratic process, and politely but insistently and assertively kicking their corrupt asses to the curb.

This has to be done with a great deal of forethought, prudence and a relatively foolproof transition plan in place, mainly to insure that everyone can survive reasonably comfortably while all systems and resources are nationalized, and to prevent the greed driven sociopathic megalo-maniacs who currently control the system from interrupting and subverting the flow and evolution of democratic processes. They will do everything they can to regain control, and we will need to plan accordingly in order to gently restrain them from interfering with the democratic evolution that will maximize the possibilities for the future liberty and happiness, and comfortable survival of the 99% and the planet itself.

A formidable undertaking, but an undertaking that is now critical to having any possibility of present and future democratic self-determination, comfortable physical survival, and maintaining and improving what is left of the planetary environmental systems necessary to support physical life in this world.

That said, voting in as many real Democrats as possible may help buy us more time to fix what needs to be fixed, but like you said, most of "those who would have to initiate the reforms are the ones who are currently the beneficiaries of that same system. Seriously, what are the chances they're going to turn off the spigot?"

IMO, we really have limited options for insuring, to the greatest degree possible, the comfortable survival of the majority of human beings and other life forms at this stage of the game ~ something reasonably similar to what I described above ~ or we will be faced with an inevitable political catastrophe involving worldwide, iron fisted authoritarian control of the 99% by sociopathic plutarchs, and the unprecedented environmental catastrophe that would naturally follow iron fisted control by greed/ego driven sociopaths.



Motor City declared bankruptcy. Un-friggin-real. GOP Governor appoints HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #1
Shock Doctorine in action. On the bright side, I have always wanted my own Piccaso corkhead Jul 2013 #9
Detroit could make for a 'tipping point.' Since Detroit's police forces will HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #15
It's coming. This is the end game. duffyduff Jul 2013 #75
it's a motor city madhouse markiv Jul 2013 #24
That was just plain awful. derivative and shallow. delrem Jul 2013 #63
no it wasnt nt markiv Jul 2013 #68
This is more on-topic for this thread. Maedhros Jul 2013 #87
We have Democrats in office. Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #2
Emphasis on "actual" MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #3
And that's not by accident. Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #7
+1 Scuba Jul 2013 #19
What else can you say? bvar22 Jul 2013 #61
He was and is a total fake. I told people this. All they had to do was look. duffyduff Jul 2013 #77
Bingo! DeSwiss Jul 2013 #93
And those 2 choices were all that were left LWolf Jul 2013 #105
what we have are Raygun Democrats what we need would be azurnoir Jul 2013 #88
Very few real ones!! pocoloco Jul 2013 #31
That (D) doesn not mean much anymore. RC Jul 2013 #42
Rec. graphic! ReasonableToo Jul 2013 #83
Love the way the elephant has been made to look like a teapot nxylas Jul 2013 #91
Can you make your graphic an OP? It's fantastic. spooky3 Jul 2013 #95
Maybe and that's final. I'll see about working on some verbiage. RC Jul 2013 #99
Once I perfect that cloning machine, I'll get E. Warrren & B. Sanders on the line ASAP! bullwinkle428 Jul 2013 #4
Chill out dude, they're only spying on YOU, Manny. tridim Jul 2013 #5
Why? MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #53
If that were true there'd be no issue, delrem Jul 2013 #66
Yeah, somewhere out there are a mystical bunch of politicians Recursion Jul 2013 #6
I've been waiting for Third-Way Manny to announce his campaign... tridim Jul 2013 #17
No no no. You have it backwards. annabanana Jul 2013 #45
Yes there are real Democrats out there mick063 Jul 2013 #26
Neo-DU in one sentence: "If Obama is your man, you have no credibility with me." tridim Jul 2013 #43
Yep mick063 Jul 2013 #48
I believe in gradual ameliorative progress when possible Recursion Jul 2013 #52
+1 NorthCarolina Jul 2013 #55
...Unlike the ones who received tens of millions from the 1%. grahamhgreen Jul 2013 #97
The Mystical Reps are entering stage left, seeing the big green aura stage right... BornLooser Jul 2013 #8
It's time to meet in the streets with........ Hotler Jul 2013 #10
Peterloo worked for the British -- the British 1% AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #38
I'm going to have to side with Manny on this madokie Jul 2013 #11
2 of mine are actual democrats and the 3rd is a Socialist cali Jul 2013 #12
NO, we need less F'n Republicans in Office lobodons Jul 2013 #13
+1 because Manny doesn't understand this simple concept. tridim Jul 2013 #21
Why did Lincoln fire his losing generals? MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #41
You're comparing the average voter to Lincoln? jazzimov Jul 2013 #109
We need everyone to fight for publicly funded elections to get the lap dogs out and stay out! Dustlawyer Jul 2013 #14
Now, ProSense Jul 2013 #18
No, it is a wish and a goal. A plan is how you get there and how you verify progress on the way. TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #107
The people who benfit from corporate funded elections are going to jump right on that. Fuddnik Jul 2013 #22
That's not likely to happen Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #27
Yes. It's a catch 22. The game is rigged, and is played in a maze that has no exit. Zorra Jul 2013 #54
Yes, this is the only anwer. We need Moral Monday protests nationwide mountain grammy Jul 2013 #37
Agreed...the next election has to be about that SINGLE ISSUE, and NOTHING else... Volaris Jul 2013 #90
Yeah, ProSense Jul 2013 #16
ProSense "reeking (sic) havoc" on message board; odoriferous blue links are everywhere. xocet Jul 2013 #50
Yeah, sometimes my fingers get ahead of my thought process, but thanks for pointing it out. ProSense Jul 2013 #51
If Democrats in Florida can't find a Republican to vote for, Fuddnik Jul 2013 #20
Betty McCollum, MN CD-4 - Al Franken, MN Senator MineralMan Jul 2013 #23
Can you say Plutocracy, sure I knew you could. Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #25
Believe it or not. We are...... Bonhomme Richard Jul 2013 #28
Correct. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #29
It really really really sucks Progressive dog Jul 2013 #30
Passive complaining treestar Jul 2013 #32
If people would quit apologizing for them and giving turncoats unqualified support. Fuddnik Jul 2013 #33
Where are they going to come from? treestar Jul 2013 #36
'Passively" complain? mick063 Jul 2013 #57
Right on Manny!! pocoloco Jul 2013 #34
I clicked on this cuz I thought it said "orifice" Major Nikon Jul 2013 #35
City University of San Francisco.. zentrum Jul 2013 #39
I was surprised to learn there is only one senator in the Congressional Progressive Caucus. CrispyQ Jul 2013 #40
And he's not a Democrat. Marr Jul 2013 #47
And he ProSense Jul 2013 #56
God, there's no one on the left you don't have a deceitful smear prepared for, is there? Marr Jul 2013 #58
I feel you pain Manny... Hubert Flottz Jul 2013 #44
The number one best thing about ANY Democrat is she/he is NOT a Republican.. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #46
Neoliberals are just as bad as neoconservatives. LWolf Jul 2013 #106
I'll take less "advice" giving purgers/dividers pretending to be Democrats. great white snark Jul 2013 #49
K&R felix_numinous Jul 2013 #59
I hear ya'. I've been having this sinking feeling too. Matariki Jul 2013 #60
Other than Warren and Grayson, maybe Cordray, they're all too corrupted Corruption Inc Jul 2013 #62
+1000 forestpath Jul 2013 #69
Sherrod Brown, Howard Dean spooky3 Jul 2013 #98
If by "actual" you mean old-school, yellow-dog, union-backing...I'm with you. Not sure we can find silvershadow Jul 2013 #64
thats not what this guy means pasto76 Jul 2013 #70
Let's get one thing straight again BrainMann1 Jul 2013 #65
Keep pushin' baby. jtuck004 Jul 2013 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author Phlem Jul 2013 #72
Manny your a hater! Phlem Jul 2013 #71
Reading up thread Phlem Jul 2013 #73
And a racist Paulite ratf@#&er purity Liberal hater. MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #85
I'm surprised at the lack of Nonsense in replies fascisthunter Jul 2013 #74
Help me. I can't get to the acceptance stage of grief Jakes Progress Jul 2013 #76
In the long wrong it's best we stay in the anger phase dflprincess Jul 2013 #78
Then I'm good to go. Jakes Progress Jul 2013 #108
says that Democracy is kaput here. AlbertCat Jul 2013 #79
There's simply NO ROOM for liberals/progressives in today's Democratic Party blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #80
Jeezes, we need some actual Democrats on DU. Wednesdays Jul 2013 #81
Just a fucking "D" aftrer their name doesn't cut it... 99Forever Jul 2013 #82
K&R liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #84
ICAM MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #86
Rush Holt for senate . limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #89
It's not the Democrats who need a changin'..... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #92
As always, Manny says it right. Thanks so much. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #94
Oregon 5th CD davidpdx Jul 2013 #96
We need LIBERALS in every office in the country. loudsue Jul 2013 #100
John & Bobby and their little brother . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2013 #101
I miss bill clinton Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #102
Political saviorism. ananda Jul 2013 #103
But sometimes, God smiles on us MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #104
You mean old school Democrats, not Costco Democrats. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #110
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