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16. No, and neither is solitary confinement. Remember Obama's NDAA section 1021 which provides for

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 11:04 PM

Jul 2013

the indefinite detention of US citizens with neither trial nor representation? That's what they'd do. Into the box for life. And yes, chemicals so they can find out how to shut down his dead-man's switch information packets.

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I'm pleased that Snowden's not on the WH secret extrajudicial kill list [View all] MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 OP

Well, strictly Holder was saying he's not on our *public judicial* kill list (nt) Recursion Jul 2013 #1

Didn't you post that no one is tortured? So there are no kill lists either? Corruption Inc Jul 2013 #45

Holder didn't "promise" no drones to Russia. ProSense Jul 2013 #2

Yes, but the "no torture" promise is an empty one. Laelth Jul 2013 #41

Yes, but in all honesty, torture is used to get people to talk, and that hasn't been a problem hughee99 Jul 2013 #57

Yes, civil libertarians everywhere are rejoicing 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #3

He didn't say he wouldn't be extrajudeliciously killed leftstreet Jul 2013 #4

But if the White House seeks to kill Snowden MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #5

yes...no...wait...wha? leftstreet Jul 2013 #9

A hacker who's worth enough to force down the plane of an elected head of state. MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #10

But he was on the plane!! leftstreet Jul 2013 #12

Force down the plane of an elected head of state Progressive dog Jul 2013 #40

So what would be a better way to characterize what happened? MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #42

Not forced down. They were free to keep flying ... until they ran out of fuel. N/T GoneFishin Jul 2013 #52

France, Spain, or whichever revoked permissions for Progressive dog Jul 2013 #53

Bolivian military aircraft? MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #56

Yes, Bolivian military aircraft. nt Progressive dog Jul 2013 #58

A military aircraft like Air Force One, yes? n/t Fumesucker Jul 2013 #63

A military aircraft and Air Force 1 is also military nt Progressive dog Jul 2013 #64

I thought the talking point was that we had nothing to do with it? JoeyT Jul 2013 #62

Where did you get your talking points? Progressive dog Jul 2013 #65

You don't remember JoeyT Jul 2013 #66

Oh, I didn't realize the fuel gauge was a talking point, Progressive dog Jul 2013 #67

Cheney and Bush. JoeyT Jul 2013 #68

Cheney Bush and plane forced down? nt Progressive dog Jul 2013 #69

It would not be seeking the death penalty but rather using a sophisticated ‘Disposition Matrix’ Dragonfli Jul 2013 #37

Indeed, your argument has bested mine MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #43

Snowden may not be on the list... pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #6

As a paid troll working for Karl Rove, MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #8

Dude, shhh! The drones, they can hear... n/t Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #14

Look who's talkin' pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #22

Mr. Droney and Agent Mike know I'm a good boy! Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #24

I just hope your last post doesn't end with... pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #29

No, but there is a very loud buzzing at my window. Just a sec... Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #32

No problem, then pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #33

"Health professionals recommend regular colonoscopies at your age." Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #35

Been there, done that pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #36

Don't quote me on this, but that guy in the picture is an expert on aliens. Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #59

The funny thing is, I've never seen even so much as a clip from that program pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #60

Is a chemical lobotomy really the same as torture? reusrename Jul 2013 #7

No, and neither is solitary confinement. Remember Obama's NDAA section 1021 which provides for Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #16

or is he? nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #11

It's almost as if they'll say anything then wish, then do anything they wish. Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #13

I guess they told the truth that one time though... Pholus Jul 2013 #17

Oh for fracks face nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #47

That never happened! Aerows Jul 2013 #61

How do we know Holder didn't take Snowden off the list, make his announcement, Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #15

I hate it when that happens... pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #18

LOL tridim Jul 2013 #19

That list is reserved for Middle Eastern or African countries. joshcryer Jul 2013 #20

Holder was making the case to send Snowden back MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #23

Well the US hasn't ruled out targeted killing on US soil. joshcryer Jul 2013 #34

Still. pa28 Jul 2013 #21

Well, heck... anything to bring him in... MrMickeysMom Jul 2013 #25

I'm afraid life insurance on Snowden would be a good, er, investment. snot Jul 2013 #26

It's all so incredibly ambiguous. defacto7 Jul 2013 #27

I cannot trust someone with so little integrity Demeter Jul 2013 #28

So who exactly has Obama "executed"? SoapBox Jul 2013 #30

At least four US citizens so far: MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #44

it is the 16 year old questionseverything Jul 2013 #54

You really need to keep up nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #48

Orwell strikes again!!! DeSwiss Jul 2013 #31

Must you see a conspiracy theory everywhere? jazzimov Jul 2013 #38

You have to admit that "least untruthful" is a phrase deliciously dripping with irony Fumesucker Jul 2013 #39

The flaw in your logic is that it's a theory, it's reality not a theory Corruption Inc Jul 2013 #46

Some people believe what they want regardless of facts. think Jul 2013 #51

Here are some of those manny bots, including the NYT nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #49

Well I'm not sure. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #50

I agree-very confusing times... midnight Jul 2013 #55