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37. It took 300 people sitting it out in Florida to allow Bush to steal the WH.

Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:15 PM

Jul 2013

It took less than 10 in Ohio recently to allow Repubs total control of our state.

Even if there aren't a lot, any is too many. Every vote DOES matter.

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When a Centrist Independent is a more reliable vote for Democrats than, well, some Democrats... [View all] riqster Jul 2013 OP

Vote Democratic or shut up and get out of the way! AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #1

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #2

I have done that for decades. "Always vote for principle." RC Jul 2013 #7

Such a reflection is better than health care or a social safety net treestar Jul 2013 #10

Is it your principle to support wars? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #52

It is good to have a moral compass. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #95

Said the guy who was rich. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #21

And that sweet reflection is such a comfort to those riqster Jul 2013 #25

Is it your principles to vote for those who condemn children to starve, and suffer? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #54

If one casts a vote (or fails to cast a vote) riqster Jul 2013 #67

I don't support the "principles" you mentioned. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #69

I hope you never have to live in a state that is 100% Red. riqster Jul 2013 #72

No I didn't. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #73

Your single vote always matters. riqster Jul 2013 #78

That's my rule, anyway. nt LWolf Jul 2013 #53

I disagree with the premise in your first paragraph. cyberswede Jul 2013 #3

That is all that matters. riqster Jul 2013 #12

Stop blaming voters leftstreet Jul 2013 #4

After his mandate in 2009, Obama had the Republicans on the mat for the final 10-count HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #8

It started with Obama's silly healthcare 'town halls' leftstreet Jul 2013 #9

On the contrary, riqster Jul 2013 #13

Problem is when we do elect them... SomethingFishy Jul 2013 #20

Not in my mind. riqster Jul 2013 #33

I am a moderate democrat is a deep blue state. I often get out voted in primaries by bluestate10 Jul 2013 #50

Your post makes me less likely to vote Bradical79 Jul 2013 #5

If you sit it out, you are helping Republicans. riqster Jul 2013 #14

If you continue to give cover to Broward Jul 2013 #22

Look at Ohio to see why you are wrong. riqster Jul 2013 #28

I smell bullshit. Look at any state that went from DINO to republican and tell me there is bluestate10 Jul 2013 #48

Exactly. Idaho lost its DINO Representative in Congress when he was replaced by a flamethrowing . . Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #63

It is EXACTLY posts like this burnodo Jul 2013 #71

If it is partisan to want to keep Republicans from fucking the nation to death, riqster Jul 2013 #77

Christ almighty,anyone who would sit out an sufrommich Jul 2013 #38

Yeah, that is beyond a "fair-weather" Dem. riqster Jul 2013 #45

Given the stakes of the 2014 election, that is fucking crazy. nt bluestate10 Jul 2013 #47

Oh yeah. Thence the OP. riqster Jul 2013 #59

Not going to shut up mick063 Jul 2013 #6

To be fair they only pretend half as crap, the reality of the offerings is much less than half TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #11

Whose party? riqster Jul 2013 #15

The GOP fear is wearing off mick063 Jul 2013 #24

Not in Ohio, it isn't. We are in Hell. riqster Jul 2013 #27

A couple of years of adversity mick063 Jul 2013 #29

I am not sure. bluestate10 Jul 2013 #34

That's not how our history has gone, regrettably. riqster Jul 2013 #35

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #46

Well, it's tough to stomp out the Broward Jul 2013 #16

Not so. riqster Jul 2013 #23

Bullshit!!! If you think is isn't, go live in Louisiana, Texas, South Carolina, Georgia. bluestate10 Jul 2013 #30

You don't want Asbestos Y-Front. Mr. David Jul 2013 #17

Clearly better, thanks! nt riqster Jul 2013 #18

Is it your impression that there are a lot of these Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #19

It took 300 people sitting it out in Florida to allow Bush to steal the WH. riqster Jul 2013 #37

And with that claim Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #49

Neither are "claims". riqster Jul 2013 #60

The so-called "true" democrats and third party type here on DU disgusts me. bluestate10 Jul 2013 #26

Agree ... JoePhilly Jul 2013 #65

You know, Senator Amy Klobuchar won reelection by being so inoffensive and useless Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2013 #83

Reversal of what democracy actually is. JackRiddler Jul 2013 #31

No, we are not here to serve the politicos. riqster Jul 2013 #39

When a Centrist Independent is a more reliable vote for Democrats than, well, some Democrats... NuclearDem Jul 2013 #32

And that makes it OK to throw elections to the Reeps? riqster Jul 2013 #43

That's no excuse. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #44

"Principles"? riqster Jul 2013 #58

My point exactly. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #64

And the voters who don't vote Dem, help elect Repubs. riqster Jul 2013 #68

Yes, they're responsible for how they vote, but what are the choices? NuclearDem Jul 2013 #70

I agree in all particulars. riqster Jul 2013 #74

Unfortunately, what the Dem establishment takes away from its losses is Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2013 #82

And that brings me to another point NuclearDem Jul 2013 #85

+1000. Every time we go further right, we sacrifice voters and our party identity. winter is coming Jul 2013 #107

I'm A Life Long Democrat & One Who Votes ChiciB1 Jul 2013 #36

Crist was not running as a Repub IIRC riqster Jul 2013 #40

I Know, But He Was Elected As A Republican Governor ChiciB1 Jul 2013 #51

I see what you mean. riqster Jul 2013 #61

Probably "a centrist, independent" is closer to having their policy aims represented TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #41

This is one kick ass post The Kentuckian mick063 Jul 2013 #75

Thank you for taking the time TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #99

These days, being a Centrist isn't what you describe. riqster Jul 2013 #86

Nah, it is as described. Every "Centrist" politician is a corporate stooge asshole. TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #101

ALL politicians are corporate stooge assholes, regardless of label. riqster Jul 2013 #103

I'll grant you the first point but will add the self described "centrist" are more brazen and proud TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #128

Awesome post! In multiple ways! :) wavesofeuphoria Aug 2013 #120

Here be the rub. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #42

The loyalty drumbeat seems to be starting a little early. LWolf Jul 2013 #56

Lose what? riqster Jul 2013 #79

I notice all you mention are the bad things. riqster Jul 2013 #87

To the Contrary Savannahmann Jul 2013 #88

So, you'll let the Republicans win? riqster Jul 2013 #89

I am continuing the call I've made since I first came here. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #90

Should is a useless concept in reality. riqster Jul 2013 #91

Then you are left with the lesser of two evils. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #92

Better that than to cede the field to the greater evil. riqster Jul 2013 #93

Then you truly do not understand what is going on. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #94

I understand that you think there is an inevitable outcome. riqster Jul 2013 #96

My father used to ask me a question from time to time. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #100

Yes, the Centrists do not understand or care that Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2013 #97

As Job said to the Lord -so say I to the Party,"Though you slay me yet shall I serve you."-Job 13:15 Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #55

If you are a registered Democrat, you are by definition a Democrat. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #57

Last midterm the Independents and Youth vote stayed home AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #62

Likely, the youth will stay home again Savannahmann Jul 2013 #66

The youth who supported Obama in 2008 wanted REAL change, not Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2013 #98

fuck centrists. more nafta, tpp is all that says to me. nt xchrom Jul 2013 #76

Bush couldn't have done half the stuff he did without Dem votes Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2013 #80

BOOM! .... And small pieces of the OPs argument fall slowly back into the water n/t Fumesucker Jul 2013 #84

I did not say we should settle. I said we must show up. riqster Jul 2013 #106

Excellent post!!! wavesofeuphoria Aug 2013 #122

May I ask what your philosophical reasons are for not registering as a Democrat? Autumn Jul 2013 #81

My objections to party membership may be found in Washington's Farewell speech. riqster Jul 2013 #104

Who says Independent voters are "centrists"? Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #102

I certainly didn't say that all Independents are Centrists. riqster Jul 2013 #105

I've voted democratic my entire life because I chose to whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #108

If you think DINOs and Repubs are the same, riqster Aug 2013 #109

I will not pay the ransom mick063 Aug 2013 #110

That was Nader's thesis in 2000. riqster Aug 2013 #111

so start learning mick063 Aug 2013 #112

I will vote against the Repubs. Because I have much to lose if they win. riqster Aug 2013 #114

I don't want to pay your ransom anymore mick063 Aug 2013 #115

So you are helping Repubs. Regardless of reason, you are out to hurt the Dems. riqster Aug 2013 #116

Our priorities are different. mick063 Aug 2013 #117

My priorities are women's rights, child welfare, and other vital matters. riqster Aug 2013 #118

Nothiing gets resolved until the goverment coffers are filled to resolve them. mick063 Aug 2013 #119

We tried it your way, too. In 2000. riqster Aug 2013 #123

I recall. Clinton's protege was offered up. mick063 Aug 2013 #124

Look in a mirror. riqster Aug 2013 #127

One of my complaints about Centrist politics is that lacking solid positions to advocate they Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #126

I think it is funny when individuals.... NCTraveler Aug 2013 #113

So you don't do any of the hard work it takes to run a Party, you just vote and preach at those Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #121

Maybe the question to be asked is why the candidates TBF Aug 2013 #125