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Martin Eden

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12. "All governments lie."
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 10:10 AM
Aug 2013
IF We The People ARE the government, then We are lying to ourselves.

But that's a big IF.

Franklin said we have a Republic IF we can keep it, but it's pretty evident we're losing it (if we haven't lost it already).

Who are we losing it to?

We're losing it to the same elites of wealth & power who have suppressed the common people throughout history ...
... be they kings, popes, fascists, etc, they are oligarchs of one stripe or another.

But in America We The People still have POWER, IF we can overcome the polarization of The People engineered by the Powers That Be through propaganda and manipulating a lot of common folks (Red State America) by playing on their fears, their prejudices, and their faith.

There will ALWAYS BE oligarchs of one stripe or another trying to hoard for themselves the lions share of riches & resources. It is part of human nature. It is up to We The People to overcome the propaganda and the fear and the hate that divides us.

A House (or a People) divided against itself cannot stand (up for our own common interests). That is what the oligarchs have engineered and that is what they are counting on.

We have much more in common (in terms of economic interests) with the common folk brainwashed by Fox News & RW talk radio than either of us have with the likes of the Koch brothers.

But as long as we're bitterly divided and at each others throats, We The People have no chance at reclaiming the Republic bequeathed to us.
The Great Suppression [View all] TheMastersNemesis Aug 2013 OP
Horrifyingly descriptive. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #1
It certainly describes legislative action in NC. mnhtnbb Aug 2013 #2
Just About Anywhere You Go In Nation - Need A Permit? To Demonstrate Or Protest TheMastersNemesis Aug 2013 #3
And soon a picture ID for anything. zeemike Aug 2013 #5
This "new" fascism, no "papers" required because Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #11
It does seem ridiculous doesn't it? The government gets to tell us where to demonstrate, liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #33
Austerity => Suppressed Economic Recovery HenryWallace Aug 2013 #4
The corporate owned empire needs an excess of desperate peasants JEB Aug 2013 #6
Suppression 90-percent Aug 2013 #7
"All governments lie." Martin Eden Aug 2013 #12
SPOT ON 90-percent Aug 2013 #17
Frank Zappa was SPOT ON Martin Eden Aug 2013 #25
Great post, Jimmy! Enthusiast Aug 2013 #31
They will only drag off the troublemakers kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #22
Also, government suppression of critical information. deurbano Aug 2013 #8
K&R! We have a shadow govt., that controls all 3 branches of govt., and the media! The cure is Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #9
Yes, that is what we have to do dreamnightwind Aug 2013 #39
K&R for the most accurate description I've heard nt 4_TN_TITANS Aug 2013 #10
And the supression being wrought at this time is shrouded in pure racism. As soon as Obama is out kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #13
Trademark it...its perfect. Phillyindy Aug 2013 #14
A great description of our current society fasttense Aug 2013 #15
There aren't many broads watoos Aug 2013 #16
No, we get all our President's talking points and subsequent cheering moments right on time. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #18
Hell yeah! Suppressing the hopes and dreams and future. freshwest Aug 2013 #19
Republicans work like a snake in the dark Mosaic Aug 2013 #20
Really? disidoro01 Aug 2013 #36
Great comment K&Red kimbutgar Aug 2013 #21
More Like The Great Deception cantbeserious Aug 2013 #23
Actually, you are correct. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #32
why isn't CEO pay INFLATION more of an issue??? seeing the rite wing is so anti inflation. pansypoo53219 Aug 2013 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Aug 2013 #26
kr HiPointDem Aug 2013 #27
Add suppression of privacy to your list. avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #28
K&R. I believe you are on to something. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #29
The Money Is There But It's All Flowing Uphill colsohlibgal Aug 2013 #30
well said xchrom Aug 2013 #34
Deep, Chronic Suppression Blue Owl Aug 2013 #35
K&R. So true. I have nothing to add. You just summed it all up. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #37
Does big brother realize the lid must be kept on the breadth, scope, and totality of criminality, indepat Aug 2013 #38
Pretty much Hydra Aug 2013 #40
Suppression of the poorest among us. Amonester Aug 2013 #41
Well Put! This phrase should be utilized 24/7. nt adirondacker Aug 2013 #42
Very well put. obxhead Aug 2013 #43
It's called fascism AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #44
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #45
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