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MADem

(135,425 posts)
171. You gotta pay the gas or electric to cook them, too, though.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 03:14 AM
Aug 2013

And you have to have money to buy the crock pot or pressure cooker or whatever to cook them.

And you have to have the car, full of gas, to get to the supermarket to buy the beans. Or bus fare--if there's a supermarket on the bus line; otherwise you have to change buses and haul your groceries home lugging them up and down bus steps.

If you are living day to day and walking to the overpriced convenience store to get food, it can be a challenge for people to get all that healthy and tasty cheap stuff to make these "not hard" meals.

There's a lot more to it for many people than "Oh, just buy dried beans and spices that mean you can't buy your blood pressure meds this month."

K&R. I have contacted both of my Dem senators about Chained CPI and they oppose it too. MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #1
Make Tom Harkin Sen Majority Leader. tblue Aug 2013 #2
He's retiring. Not running in 2014. cali Aug 2013 #4
And he's gonna be sorely missed. emulatorloo Aug 2013 #53
indeed hollysmom Aug 2013 #66
NO excuse for cutting benefits The Blue Flower Aug 2013 #3
Raise the salary cap then you have to raise the benefits cap OnlinePoker Aug 2013 #52
Why do you say that? Do you know what the salary cap is? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #76
It's the level at which, if you earn any higher, you don't have to pay any more than that. OnlinePoker Aug 2013 #100
And this is a bad thing? daleanime Aug 2013 #121
All it does is give fuel to the fire if the pugs get back control of the purse strings. OnlinePoker Aug 2013 #128
.....Yeah, you really shouldn't advise anyone on politics. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2013 #145
In the same vein, you shouldn't advise anyone on diplomacy demwing Aug 2013 #187
Their going to try no matter what we do..... daleanime Aug 2013 #157
"they're" Contraction for "they are" maddiemom Aug 2013 #182
It's what I get when I hurry. daleanime Aug 2013 #185
LOL! "contend?" Yeah, points for that! Thanks for being a good sport to my grammar maddiemom Aug 2013 #191
Huh? Why be upset? daleanime Aug 2013 #199
Not true Horse with no Name Aug 2013 #193
What?? Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #125
that's not true, you only pay out 10% of what they put in. Sirveri Aug 2013 #184
DURec leftstreet Aug 2013 #5
She is visiting the wrong Senator exboyfil Aug 2013 #6
That is what John2 Aug 2013 #8
Oust the President? Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #13
Impeachment. (See Bill Clinton) maddiemom Aug 2013 #183
Because the left has shitty logistics Scootaloo Aug 2013 #132
"I've paid into it since I was 16." LWolf Aug 2013 #7
I am in the same predicament as your mom. RebelOne Aug 2013 #12
It's not right. LWolf Aug 2013 #38
I really sympathize with your mom. RebelOne Aug 2013 #111
We treat seniors like dirt in this country and it is has avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #9
True and shame on us! I think some of the poorest countries treat seniors better!... Little Star Aug 2013 #26
+1000. It's sad and disgusting. nt adirondacker Aug 2013 #197
How else can we afford to send drone armies to Yemen LittleBlue Aug 2013 #10
But she is overweight joeglow3 Aug 2013 #11
High calorie, government subsidized carbs are the cheapest food source and it makes many people Ed Suspicious Aug 2013 #17
Not really true Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #24
Some people are allergic to beans, just saying. Little Star Aug 2013 #28
"Some people" will be allergic to just about anything Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #32
Yes, and others, like me, have a catastrophic medical condition for which very expensive food stuffs silvershadow Aug 2013 #59
Does this negate what I am saying for the vast majority of people? Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #65
You are really naiive or ignorant if you think that I am an outlier. I am just lucky that my silvershadow Aug 2013 #69
Given my line of work and education Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #71
Oh, well, then by all means I apologize. Tell me, what are your line of work and education? silvershadow Aug 2013 #80
Only a fool gives out specific personal information on the Netwebs Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #84
I do understand that, as I am educated and worked in public health as well. My point is that your silvershadow Aug 2013 #89
While I am extremely empathetic to your situation Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #91
So is your degree or field nutrition? Is is accompanied by any type of medical degree? Because, silvershadow Aug 2013 #97
Eating beans meal after meal is inexpensive, you're right. BUT how often can a person stand to eat shraby Aug 2013 #107
You're assuming most poor and elderly folks can cook those foods. riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #131
By the time I was 14 I was doing most of the cooking for SheilaT Aug 2013 #202
I grew up poor and by 11 was in the same situation as you riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #208
I wonder how you'd like to eat beans day in and day out...... llmart Aug 2013 #137
A bag of beans and a bag of barley. 6 meals for $2 total plus energy and water costs Recursion Aug 2013 #29
While I agree about Ag subsidies Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #30
The other problem for the working poor is that they take time Recursion Aug 2013 #31
The woman in the example is retired. Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #35
lol...... cliffordu Aug 2013 #47
Why are you so wound up about my solutions? Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #75
I'm having steak and lobster bought with food stamps. cliffordu Aug 2013 #78
No one said eating beans 24/7/365 was required Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #81
I love you for this post. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #99
That Rick Shinseki is a helluva fellah! MADem Aug 2013 #175
the woman in the example can only afford to eat free meals at the center Dragonfli Aug 2013 #148
WOW. "Let them eat Beans". bvar22 Aug 2013 #213
Good grief, I have to agree with the people who are giving you a bit of noise. MADem Aug 2013 #174
The only real truth in your posts is the amount of hot air you are spewing... jtuck004 Aug 2013 #138
Well stated! /nt Dragonfli Aug 2013 #149
I try not to be too mean, but damn. People just don't get how truly hard it is for jtuck004 Aug 2013 #151
+100 heaven05 Aug 2013 #189
Revelation 6:6 Sentath Aug 2013 #54
Most excellent! cliffordu Aug 2013 #115
What a lot of people dont realize is that the poor dont have access to healthy rhett o rick Aug 2013 #120
Those are all great points Recursion Aug 2013 #124
Beans have to be planned for in the diet, especially Ilsa Aug 2013 #33
Beano works Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #36
I guess you don't spend much time around Ilsa Aug 2013 #95
It's a shame I gave a list of other items too Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #105
Your suggestions were fine. It's just that your Ilsa Aug 2013 #123
who heaven05 Aug 2013 #188
Your 'Beano' adds about 25 cents to every single meal on your 'eat beans you old Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #101
I'd give up if I were you. This crowd is simply not going to eat beans. Me, I love 'em. Flatulo Aug 2013 #140
So your handle is "Flatulo" and you love beans. LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #178
Haha, good catch. Stay upwind LOL. Flatulo Aug 2013 #190
So gee, asks Granny to herself, "Do I buy my heart medication this month, or the beano?" nt MADem Aug 2013 #176
Fulla *#%t 3auld6phart Aug 2013 #41
Perhaps you could answer a question? Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #44
Or, your Mother. cliffordu Aug 2013 #49
If this is a joke or insult Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #62
Well. We'll just have to wonder, won't we. cliffordu Aug 2013 #64
Not worth it. Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #72
At least Antoinette suggested cake. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #102
They're arguing with you because they believe you're arguing against the woman... Moonwalk Aug 2013 #126
Thank you for a thoughtful reply Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #195
When do you return to Elysium? Paulie Aug 2013 #129
Maybe you should write a letter to the woman in the OP and allow her your suggestions... LanternWaste Aug 2013 #194
Pfft! Enthusiast Aug 2013 #110
I'm laughing out loud at this back-and-forth! No Vested Interest Aug 2013 #141
Sounds Like a GITMO menu plan 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #82
LOL, nice loaded analogy there Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #87
Of course the average benefit on SS is currently $1,230, the $40 difference you Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #103
Try thinking bigger 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #165
No, courts have ruled such a diet to be illegal. jeff47 Aug 2013 #142
If seniors ate that well, there wouldn't be any issue. MADem Aug 2013 #177
I don't know if trolls like beans, you can answer that yourself. DO you like beans? /nt Dragonfli Aug 2013 #150
You are also looking at a woman of a certain age. ehrnst Aug 2013 #55
IAT, and some older people get food pantry, which is often in that category; and don't have the freshwest Aug 2013 #106
Let 'em eat beans? KamaAina Aug 2013 #63
Do you have a better solution? Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #73
Um, yeah. KamaAina Aug 2013 #90
Do you understand why that cap is in place? Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #92
I guess Rep. Mike Honda doesn't, either KamaAina Aug 2013 #94
Aw, geeze. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2013 #127
Soylent green would probably be cheapest of all, and maybe even most nutritious IrishAyes Aug 2013 #133
If she ate just enough to lose her minor excess weight it wouldn't make much difference in her HiPointDem Aug 2013 #77
Not worried about her weight Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #79
She'd save even more if she got all her protein from Fancy Feast! (nt) jeff47 Aug 2013 #143
You're talking about my neighbor when I was in university. MADem Aug 2013 #172
When you are poor nothing raises the spirits like eating beans every day Marrah_G Aug 2013 #155
It is a good change of pace from dumpster diving maggot rich meat supplements. Dragonfli Aug 2013 #160
. Marrah_G Aug 2013 #162
You gotta pay the gas or electric to cook them, too, though. MADem Aug 2013 #171
Well then PD Turk Aug 2013 #113
What Obama plan to cut social security? cliffordu Aug 2013 #14
The chained CPI the GOP rejected n/t leftstreet Aug 2013 #16
Oh!! THAT cut!!! cliffordu Aug 2013 #20
You're going to have to be more patient. The GOP said Obama's proposal wasn't enough. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #201
He offered nothing in reality. I'd be happier if people here cliffordu Aug 2013 #204
He offered to cut SS with a chained CPI. You should know that. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #206
I fucking well know that. cliffordu Aug 2013 #207
Yup you must have been... Historic NY Aug 2013 #153
Me too. Me too. cliffordu Aug 2013 #169
Cant tell if your insulting ME or not..... cliffordu Aug 2013 #205
No I'm not.. Historic NY Aug 2013 #210
There has been much discussion about asjr Aug 2013 #15
It was Obama's idea leftstreet Aug 2013 #19
Fuck that. It was a political maneuver. cliffordu Aug 2013 #21
It put it on the table. He offered up one of our sacred cows. Not bullshit and not Obama hating. Ed Suspicious Aug 2013 #23
He KNEW they's back off. cliffordu Aug 2013 #45
"A political maneuver" - i.e. fucking with the welfare of old people reliant on SS. Is that right? MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #40
Goddammit. THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN. cliffordu Aug 2013 #46
Even with a GOPer admin? leftstreet Aug 2013 #50
NO!!!! IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!! cliffordu Aug 2013 #60
He should put SS on the table. Inoculate that, too leftstreet Aug 2013 #67
WTF. Really? cliffordu Aug 2013 #68
ABSOLUTELY! You convinced me leftstreet Aug 2013 #74
He has nothing to lose. cliffordu Aug 2013 #83
And I'm sorry YOU don't get that Obama wanted Chained CPI. I really am. MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #85
Did he tell you this during your private time? cliffordu Aug 2013 #86
He's told everybody publicly. It's in his budget. Again, sorry you don't get that. MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #96
Well, I'm sorry I forgot the Prez can just sign an executive order and voila! cliffordu Aug 2013 #117
You keep missing the point -- which is that a DEMOCRATIC president wants to screw with SS. MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #163
MY FUCKING GOD cliffordu Aug 2013 #167
When the Bush sign his privatization scam? TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #186
Did he tell you in your private conversations he suggested it but was just kidding? Dragonfli Aug 2013 #154
I'm sorry that woman is ignorant (willful or otherwise) as some here. cliffordu Aug 2013 #88
The point is that we have a Democratic president who is even proposing Chained CPI in any way, shape MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #98
“I’m sorry to say that the president of my own party has advocated this and he’s wrong." forestpath Aug 2013 #104
Pfthhh. cliffordu Aug 2013 #118
Charming. So you can't answer the question. forestpath Aug 2013 #144
Hmm.... Was there a question there? cliffordu Aug 2013 #170
They'd have backed off Single Payer, too leftstreet Aug 2013 #48
The lack of the single payer push pissed me off, too. cliffordu Aug 2013 #51
But you're saying CCPI will never pass leftstreet Aug 2013 #57
See 60. cliffordu Aug 2013 #61
You can put it in caps 50 pts high and it still doesn't work like that. forestpath Aug 2013 #108
Fabulous. When the bill passes get back to me. cliffordu Aug 2013 #112
Why bother, you'll just continue to insult the victims. forestpath Aug 2013 #146
Yep. For the lulz cliffordu Aug 2013 #168
Spreading disinformation is acore value for all BHO haters on the right and left. nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #18
Tom Harkin is a "BHO hater" ? Really, you actually think that and that he spreads disinformation? Dragonfli Aug 2013 #156
And as everyone forgets, the poorest retirees are not subject to a chained CPI in any plan suggested Recursion Aug 2013 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Aug 2013 #27
Your position is that benefits are currently too generous? TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #34
Either the Chained CPI is actually more accurate or it isn't Recursion Aug 2013 #37
CCPI: 'I can't afford hamburger, so I'll get Mighty Dog' leftstreet Aug 2013 #70
Yeah, when people lie about programs, they sound bad Recursion Aug 2013 #116
No. I wasn't suggesting you're lying leftstreet Aug 2013 #119
Here's how you can tell it is less accurate: jeff47 Aug 2013 #147
i fully agree with that lady.... madrchsod Aug 2013 #25
I wrote directly to POTUS about it and got Cleita Aug 2013 #39
Trillion$ for wars based on lies... KansDem Aug 2013 #42
They sure are laughing, goddamn it. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2013 #56
k&r Starry Messenger Aug 2013 #43
Corporate owned politicians to weeping lady: "Find a way!" MrSlayer Aug 2013 #58
Wall Street types don't give a fuck about people on SS. Rex Aug 2013 #93
Yep - They don't want to end it. They want to privatize it. Faygo Kid Aug 2013 #109
Human capital. Rex Aug 2013 #134
Well then PD Turk Aug 2013 #114
And yet seniors voted for Romney, 56-44. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #122
I bet they have a change of heart now. Rex Aug 2013 #135
Is something like THIS too much to ask from a Democratic President? bvar22 Aug 2013 #130
Since Al From arrived on the scene to succesfuly pull the party to the right of Reagan, yes Dragonfli Aug 2013 #158
I would hope so, Reagan wasn't telling the truth. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #161
Harkin's a good guy, no doubt, but he's wrong on just one thing. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #136
Are you really suggesting Obama lied each of the many times he absolutely publicly endorsed it? Dragonfli Aug 2013 #159
I realize the intent of this post; but … 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #139
I sincerely hope you are correct. nt adirondacker Aug 2013 #152
so the leader of the party offering to cut social security actually strengthens the party? Doctor_J Aug 2013 #164
Since the kool-aid has addled my brain; how about ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #181
You're joking....right? bvar22 Aug 2013 #196
Did you not read Harkins' almost perfect response? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #200
Harkin is not an idiot. bvar22 Aug 2013 #209
How can you ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #211
And besides ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #203
This breaks my heart. Beacool Aug 2013 #166
Agree. Phentex Aug 2013 #198
Hey, but at least we're not worse than Russia.... AppleBottom Aug 2013 #173
Obama's Catfood Commission II, coming soon to jeopardize the 2014 elections. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #179
So when does this take effect? B Calm Aug 2013 #180
When did Bush's privatization scam take effect? Were we wrong to oppose it until it passed? TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #192
Here we have the CHEAPEST of ALL the cheap dodges to deflect criticism I have read on DU: bvar22 Aug 2013 #215
While I hear what she is saying I can also hear what the congress is thinking. If she had less SS jwirr Aug 2013 #212
SS is an ENTITLEMENT, bvar22 Aug 2013 #214
Neither do I but that is the thinking in DC. Congress - rethugs do not see it our way and that is jwirr Aug 2013 #216
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