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In reply to the discussion: Snowden findings corroborated by second whistleblower [View all]DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Weird. Like PRISM has been known a long time and the 702 authority. And Wyden's and Udall's objections.
But y'all are just now paying attention. Makes me go hmmm. So, why didn't YOU pay attention in December, KPete? When Wyden and Udall both talked a long time on the Senate floor and amendments were offered?
Where were you? Same issues. Exactly the same.
Did it take a traitor to make you pay attention? That's pretty sad. But NOW, you say the Obama Admin is lying, etc. When it was all out there and you could have made a difference before the extension, you had better things to do. So did everybody else who's screaming hjere now. Where the fuck were THEY?
But now that everybody can use it as a cudgel every 10 minutes to beat Obama with you just LOVE the subject. Makes me go hmm. That's all. I'm not saying I know what's up. What anybody's motives are. Just interesting that it took a goddamned hacker to wake everybody the fuck up to something you could have been participating in as a regular part of government - what you do and don't want NSA to do.
Which is it? Do you want to participate in government and make a difference or do you just want to use stuff like this as an excuse to beat the man and the Party down. If you want to make a difference, then PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT BILLS ARE BEING DEBATED IN BOTH HOUSES. There were months between when the House passed the FISA extension and when the Senate passed it in December. Surely, if it were such a hot button issue at least a FEW of you guys would have brought it up.
Show me the DU debate about it. Show me.