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In reply to the discussion: The war on the "far left" is an effort to move the Democratic Party to the right. [View all]Maven
(10,533 posts)56. Again, that poll is unreliable and based on a small sample size
If you actually read the accompanying article, they call the results "tentative" due to the sample size. It proves nothing. Generational shifts are a much more likely explanation for the overall trend in favor of equality. And that progress is the result of a movement, not Obama "leading the way".
Polling on gay marriage among blacks has been mixed. A March 2013 Pew Center study -- which compiled results from four surveys conducted over more than a year -- found 40 percent of African-Americans support gay marriage, with 48 percent opposing. The same study found 49 percent of whites and 61 percent of Democrats support gay marriage.
Other polls, with much smaller sample sizes than the Pew study, actually show a majority of black voters now support gay marriage. A March 2013 NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found 51 percent of African-American voters now support gay marriage. A May 2012 ABC News/Washington Post poll found 59 percent support gay marriage.
Michael Dimock, the director of the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, said its natural that theres some statistical noise around such polls. But what is clear is that, just as with the general population, support for gay marriage is growing among blacks. Ten years ago, just 27 percent of African-Americans favored gay marriage, according to the Pew study.
There is still a difference in the balance in opinion between whites and blacks, but the rate of change within those two groups is very similar, Dimock said.
Other polls, with much smaller sample sizes than the Pew study, actually show a majority of black voters now support gay marriage. A March 2013 NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found 51 percent of African-American voters now support gay marriage. A May 2012 ABC News/Washington Post poll found 59 percent support gay marriage.
Michael Dimock, the director of the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, said its natural that theres some statistical noise around such polls. But what is clear is that, just as with the general population, support for gay marriage is growing among blacks. Ten years ago, just 27 percent of African-Americans favored gay marriage, according to the Pew study.
There is still a difference in the balance in opinion between whites and blacks, but the rate of change within those two groups is very similar, Dimock said.
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The war on the "far left" is an effort to move the Democratic Party to the right. [View all]
cthulu2016
Aug 2013
OP
+1 yes, whether it's done intentionally or not (and I don't think it always is intentional)...
Marr
Aug 2013
#1
Bankers. Wall St Bankers which is why we have seen no prosecutions since the Third Way
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#78
Well HW the movement that is slowly brining actual equality to marriage has been one of the only
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#107
If you want a viable left in the US, it can't be built by attempting to apply pressure at the top:
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#6
Catastrophic failure of the system is a rightwinger's wet dream: it will have no good effects
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#105
If you really believed that netroots pressure on the top was useless, you wouldn't be posting here.
leveymg
Aug 2013
#110
I consider DU a useful place to share info and perspectives, but not a form of political action
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#118
The Committees probably engaged in less trawling for reactions than we see here
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#121
Obama's position is that marriage equality should be up to the States, so no matter what the
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#108
He's is to the right. Having a D after his name doesn't change his positions.
GoneFishin
Aug 2013
#76
This post supports what I'm saying. Black Democrats traditionally have supported
pnwmom
Aug 2013
#61
I respect Julian Bond but Obama has had a far greater influence on the opinions of
pnwmom
Aug 2013
#75
there is a world of difference between poll numbers and going out in the streets and experiencing
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#60
You need to study up on the topic if you wish to discuss centrists issues. Because in fact those are
Dragonfli
Aug 2013
#35
The 'far left' as described by the attackers from the Third Way, IS the Democratic Party.
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#83
your strawman would be declaring there's a war on the left by Democrats
Pretzel_Warrior
Aug 2013
#30
no. You seem to think there's an active effort to shut down liberal thought and activities by Dems
Pretzel_Warrior
Aug 2013
#37
they failed on their "libertarian right" meme - so they have returned to "far left" again
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#44
It should not be a surprise that agents of the Koch Brothers funded DLC are behind this campaign!...
cascadiance
Aug 2013
#46
because like it or not both parties belong to the corporations and the corporations don't think the
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#57
exactly. Every time the democrats move to the center the republicans move more to the right.
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#97
In general, the scorn directed at the 'far/extreme left' is not meant for those
geek tragedy
Aug 2013
#96
The war on Democrats is an effort to get people to not vote for Democrats...nt
SidDithers
Aug 2013
#98
It's preamble to big time Primary show down. The Centrists think they own it all but they are unable
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#112