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ananda

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87. It has been a very successful effort for quite awhile now.

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The war on the "far left" is an effort to move the Democratic Party to the right. [View all] cthulu2016 Aug 2013 OP

+1 yes, whether it's done intentionally or not (and I don't think it always is intentional)... Marr Aug 2013 #1

+10 RC Aug 2013 #2

Who does the Third Way serve? HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #3

Bankers. Wall St Bankers which is why we have seen no prosecutions since the Third Way sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #78

Wall St, telecoms, extraction Corps, MIC contractors. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #80

If winning any given election is the only goal you can see... Bonobo Aug 2013 #4

Sometimes that works. Not in 2010. Ash_F Aug 2013 #59

The 1% knows it needs a new party. dawg Aug 2013 #5

Most of the social issues are lost under corporate control. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #81

I agree with you, but many here apparently don't see it that way. dawg Aug 2013 #85

I agree. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #89

Well HW the movement that is slowly brining actual equality to marriage has been one of the only Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #107

So rather than make the 1% start their own party.... HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #113

If you want a viable left in the US, it can't be built by attempting to apply pressure at the top: struggle4progress Aug 2013 #6

This is completely true. There's no Momma to cry to when you are not heard. Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #84

There is another way mick063 Aug 2013 #102

Catastrophic failure of the system is a rightwinger's wet dream: it will have no good effects struggle4progress Aug 2013 #105

Catastrophic failure gave us the New Deal mick063 Aug 2013 #111

If you really believed that netroots pressure on the top was useless, you wouldn't be posting here. leveymg Aug 2013 #110

I consider DU a useful place to share info and perspectives, but not a form of political action struggle4progress Aug 2013 #118

It's a form of organization and forum for ideas on how to do that. leveymg Aug 2013 #119

The Committees probably engaged in less trawling for reactions than we see here struggle4progress Aug 2013 #121

Creeping fascism AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #7

He's pro marriage equality, pro-choice, and pro-Dream Act. pnwmom Aug 2013 #8

Don't those all poll well? cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #11

Plurality support isn't enough. pnwmom Aug 2013 #15

Obama's position is that marriage equality should be up to the States, so no matter what the Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author Adam051188 Aug 2013 #48

Yes those are centrist positions that used to be full left positions only RobertEarl Aug 2013 #16

Part of the reason more people support gay marriage these days pnwmom Aug 2013 #18

You must have missed this? RobertEarl Aug 2013 #20

I read it both times. And I disagree that he's on the right. pnwmom Aug 2013 #21

Just cause you say so? RobertEarl Aug 2013 #23

And what happened between Nixon and Obama? pnwmom Aug 2013 #25

Socialism is far left? RobertEarl Aug 2013 #28

Don't worry, all that stuff (if they can do it) nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #40

Over the bodies of a dead left RobertEarl Aug 2013 #42

There are days I think we really need to fully nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #43

You think we need to have another fire that killed hundreds? FSogol Aug 2013 #64

I'm not on the wrong site. I support socialism. pnwmom Aug 2013 #50

no it does not...it just means a lot of americans noiretextatique Aug 2013 #92

He is to the right. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #65

Dream on. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #66

He's is to the right. Having a D after his name doesn't change his positions. GoneFishin Aug 2013 #76

That is a fucking joke and an insult Maven Aug 2013 #51

Can you speak to how much influence Obama's attitudes have had pnwmom Aug 2013 #52

Can you? Please provide evidence that Obama's influence has dramatically shifted Maven Aug 2013 #54

From the previous post, how do you explain this? Just a random coincidence? pnwmom Aug 2013 #55

Again, that poll is unreliable and based on a small sample size Maven Aug 2013 #56

This post supports what I'm saying. Black Democrats traditionally have supported pnwmom Aug 2013 #61

You're comparing apples and oranges, and you have the dates backwards Maven Aug 2013 #74

I respect Julian Bond but Obama has had a far greater influence on the opinions of pnwmom Aug 2013 #75

there is a world of difference between poll numbers and going out in the streets and experiencing liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #60

+1 JoeyT Aug 2013 #69

can I have some of what you are smoking? liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #58

No. pnwmom Aug 2013 #62

What the fuck? Number23 Aug 2013 #120

Those are all things that don't cost the 1% any money. dawg Aug 2013 #17

+ Infinity... cascadiance Aug 2013 #47

Exactly. n/t Raksha Aug 2013 #122

You need to study up on the topic if you wish to discuss centrists issues. Because in fact those are Dragonfli Aug 2013 #35

Well stated but I'd have to say the party has already moved right. pa28 Aug 2013 #9

It only works on those that are foaming at the mouth mad. Rex Aug 2013 #10

Bi-partisanship/Triangulation = War On Liberal/Progressive Democrats blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #12

Yes, triangulation MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #26

Don't you mean, even further to the right? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #13

What can one say? Some people fallforanything. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #14

Hilary 2016 and 2020 hfojvt Aug 2013 #19

Attacks? RobertEarl Aug 2013 #22

yes, attacks hfojvt Aug 2013 #24

Death to the heretics? RobertEarl Aug 2013 #29

death is a slight exxageration for effect hfojvt Aug 2013 #31

What's your point? RobertEarl Aug 2013 #32

What are words for? hfojvt Aug 2013 #128

And we should just LOVE that he keeps wanting to CUT social security huh? cascadiance Aug 2013 #49

I hope I'm dead and gone before another Clinton occupies the White House. GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #100

The objective? Maedhros Aug 2013 #39

except for social security and the TPP hfojvt Aug 2013 #53

Of course it makes you yawn. Maedhros Aug 2013 #86

that is prett funny, in an ironic sort of way hfojvt Aug 2013 #93

To what 500 Americans are you referring? Maedhros Aug 2013 #94

The 'far left' as described by the attackers from the Third Way, IS the Democratic Party. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #83

Clinton or else, eh? GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #99

I've seen the "Professional Left" slur used on DU 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #27

your strawman would be declaring there's a war on the left by Democrats Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #30

You might not know what a strawman is. cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #36

no. You seem to think there's an active effort to shut down liberal thought and activities by Dems Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #37

You recced one of the very threads this is about. JoeyT Aug 2013 #68

Nice catch, and great example. OP title: "The Far Left Wins Nothing. Again." nt Zorra Aug 2013 #70

Yep, the transparency in recs JoeyT Aug 2013 #71

I recommended it because of post content--not it's title Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #117

The war if it exists is by the left against the Democrats treestar Aug 2013 #116

The only assaults I see on the "far left"... TekGryphon Aug 2013 #33

I am far left and proud of it. Th1onein Aug 2013 #34

I still think this is all to drag his poll numbers down with his base. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #38

Huh? Coyotl Aug 2013 #41

they failed on their "libertarian right" meme - so they have returned to "far left" again Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #44

Just a thought Beowulf42 Aug 2013 #45

It should not be a surprise that agents of the Koch Brothers funded DLC are behind this campaign!... cascadiance Aug 2013 #46

because like it or not both parties belong to the corporations and the corporations don't think the liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #57

Get the f&%k out of the DU bubble once in a while. great white snark Aug 2013 #63

You mean "further right" ... Scuba Aug 2013 #67

George Lakoff: "Democrats moving to the middle is a double disaster Zorra Aug 2013 #72

exactly. Every time the democrats move to the center the republicans move more to the right. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #97

The war.... NCTraveler Aug 2013 #73

I will go further DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #77

... because that's where the big money donors want them Myrina Aug 2013 #79

Bill Clinton is Babe Ruth. Obama is Ted Williams. Discuss. ProSense Aug 2013 #82

It has been a very successful effort for quite awhile now. ananda Aug 2013 #87

Unrec brooklynite Aug 2013 #88

I'm too busy fighting the War on Christmas. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #90

What "far left"? In this country? TBF Aug 2013 #91

it is very definitely an intentional technique warrprayer Aug 2013 #95

In general, the scorn directed at the 'far/extreme left' is not meant for those geek tragedy Aug 2013 #96

bullshit. everyone at du votes democratic all the time Doctor_J Aug 2013 #125

Um, no. There are plenty of people who not only bash Obama and other geek tragedy Aug 2013 #126

The war on Democrats is an effort to get people to not vote for Democrats...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #98

Poorly played ... GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #104

Amen. treestar Aug 2013 #115

If it moves any farther to the right, it'll look like this: KamaAina Aug 2013 #101

Proud to be rec #50 DJ13 Aug 2013 #103

In my neck o'the woods fredamae Aug 2013 #106

I think you answered your own question. jazzimov Aug 2013 #109

It's preamble to big time Primary show down. The Centrists think they own it all but they are unable Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #112

There is no "war on the far left" treestar Aug 2013 #114

Yup I agree gopiscrap Aug 2013 #123

The right's a bit crowded at the moment. Left's wide open. DirkGently Aug 2013 #124

How does attacking the fringe cause the middle to move? joshcryer Aug 2013 #127