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dkf

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Wed Aug 21, 2013, 03:30 AM Aug 2013

David Miranda's detention had no basis in law, says former lord chancellor [View all]

The Metropolitan police had no legal basis to detain David Miranda under the Terrorism Act 2000, Tony Blair's former lord chancellor has claimed.

Lord Falconer of Thoroton, who helped introduce the bill in the House of Lords, said that the act makes clear that police can only detain someone to assess whether they are involved in the commission, preparation or instigation of terrorism.

Falconer told the Guardian: "I am very clear that this does not apply, either on its terms or in its spirit, to Mr Miranda."

The peer, who served as solicitor general from 1997-98 and as lord chancellor from 2003-07, was highly critical of the home secretary, Theresa May, who praised the police action at Heathrow on the grounds that the partner of the Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald possessed sensitive documents which could help terrorists and "lead to a loss of lives". May also said that police had acted within the law.

Falconer said that the home secretary's statement "is putting it too widely".

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/21/david-miranda-law-detention-heathrow

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K&R idwiyo Aug 2013 #1
I hope that some heads are gonna roll. NealK Aug 2013 #2
This is just another example of why the critics of these LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #3
I am still wondering why GG would set the one he claim Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #4
Do you not believe that Miranda is a grown man who can make his own decisions? n/t cui bono Aug 2013 #9
Well, guess you could say he made a decision he will need to deal with, again GG, Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #15
Seems you are assuming what they did and did not dicuss before this happened. cui bono Aug 2013 #16
You are the one who suggested Miranda made his own decision so you need to direct your Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #18
Whoa there! Why the animosity? cui bono Aug 2013 #20
I never said GG forced Miranda to make the trip, I said GG used Miranda as his Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #21
You did say the following: cui bono Aug 2013 #22
Then Miranda should not be upset he was detained nor should GG be upset. If both of Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #24
But the issue is whether the law was followed Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #27
I am upset about th theft which start this whole mess, we also have laws against espionage but Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #34
Are you also upset about the revealings of said "theft"? cui bono Aug 2013 #40
Why would I be upset about the revealings in 2013 by Snowden when this information was talked Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #41
How much was this talked about when it was revealed that GWB did it? cui bono Aug 2013 #43
I've been arrested for civil disobedience with full knowledge that I was likely going to be arrested Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #28
Yeah, detention was a possiibility when you're dealing with a jack-booted thug government joeybee12 Aug 2013 #33
I think they. and all of us. should be very upset. And very troubled. cui bono Aug 2013 #38
Let us start simple, did Snowden inform the proper channeks before he stole the files? Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #42
Honestly, I can't make any sense of your post. cui bono Aug 2013 #44
I think I am repeating myself again but since you insist I answer this question again I will. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #45
You lack any credibility on the matter... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #17
Loaded term, WTH do you think "mule" means? Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #19
Very loaded term. Dehumanization being the entire point of using the term. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #30
Dehumanizing, yep this is what happened to Miranda. Miranda was smuggling Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #36
I completely disagree with Thinkingabout, however, the term mule is a common term cui bono Aug 2013 #39
Very loaded Aerows Aug 2013 #31
Yep, look it up, I sure did suggest Miranda make this trip, when you take on smuggling Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #37
I think his partner is an adult, is he not? I imagine at his age, he can make his own sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #23
This is a deflection. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #26
We need a terrorism law to be able to stop somebody Little Milly Aug 2013 #5
Just cause Aerows Aug 2013 #32
What a uniquely British name he has Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #6
He doesn't look like I imagined. LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #7
yeah me too Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #8
He was born in Scotland. LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #12
So maybe you should edit the other post? Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #13
D'oh! Such laws shouldn't exist in the first place. Demeter Aug 2013 #10
^ Wilms Aug 2013 #14
I have wondered Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #25
Yep you know it! GET UR ASS UDER DA BUS! Rex Aug 2013 #29
K&R RetroLounge Aug 2013 #35
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