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freshwest

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215. Maddox never claimed to be a Democrat or support Obama. She has a job where she is paid to talk.
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 07:46 PM
Aug 2013
And she's a good voice most of the time, but it may be some bias she has that others not so situated may not have. She wouldn't be human if she didn't. The OP has a right to his opinion, and the nerve this has struck is over the top and not rational. This is from RM's Wikipedia entry:

Asked about her political views by the Valley Advocate, Maddow replied, "I'm undoubtedly a liberal, which means that I'm in almost total agreement with the Eisenhower-era Republican party platform..."

Distinguishing herself from others on the left, Maddow said she's a "national security liberal" and in a different interview that she's not "a partisan."[52][53] The New York Times called her a "defense policy wonk"[40][52] and Maddow has written Drift: The Unmooring of American Military Power (2012), a book on the role of the military in postwar American politics.

During the 2008 presidential election, Maddow did not formally support any candidate. Concerning Barack Obama's candidacy, Maddow said during the primaries, "I have never and still don't think of myself as an Obama supporter, either professionally or actually."[54]

In March 2010, Republican Scott Brown, the junior United States Senator from Massachusetts, speculated that Maddow was going to run against him for his seat in 2012. He used this premise for a fundraising email that read "...The Massachusetts political machine is looking for someone to run against me. And you're not going to believe who they are supposedly trying to recruit — liberal MSNBC anchor Rachel Maddow."

Maddow said Brown's speculation was false. On her March 23, 2010, TV program, Maddow said, "I have the best job in the world. I am not running for office. Scott Brown didn't ask me if I was running or planning to run for office before he wrote a fundraising letter with my name. No, it's completely made up by him." Despite her comments, the next day Brown continued along the same line, telling a Boston radio station, "Bring her on."

To help put an end to the matter, Maddow ran a full-page advertisement in The Boston Globe confirming she was not running, and separately demanded Brown's apology. She added that despite repeated invitations over the months, Brown had refused to appear on her TV program.[55][56][57][58] Ultimately, it was Elizabeth Warren who ran in 2012, defeating Brown...[59]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Maddow

She may be a libertarian, for all we know, or some other factor may have gotten her into this. She's not in politics, she's in media. That carries a lot of weight with those in the industry, they always support each other unless their bosses tell them no.

Do the media pundits support us, or do they play us? We can't tell and the idea DUers would attack each other with such viciousness over what they have to say over a public figure sounds like hero worship.

The OP doesn't agree with her one show there, and I never agree with Beck, Rush, O'Reilly and whatever. Does that mean I am deserving of unquestioning respect?

Does anyone think that Maddox, who is making millions of dollars a year, cares what a poster at DU thinks?

I think not. I signed up in the DU2 days to talk with Democrats and learned a lot from those who to the left and right of me, some that I felt uncomfortable with until I found we had common ground in other things. From them I have learned about what their life in the bigger world is.

But calling for people to be banned, piling on and name calling, is not about discussion. It's a mob going after a group in the minority to purge. This is Skinner's website and he chooses who will be a member here. This is spite and does nothing to change the world.

Teenagers have 'boyfriends' leftstreet Aug 2013 #1
Homophobes use the diminutives 'boyfriend' or 'lover,' rather than HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #10
--Homophobes-- railsback Aug 2013 #54
Excuse me, I wasn't the one who referred to Greenwald's 'boyfriend'. This OP HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #57
So you don't think gay men refer to their partners as 'boyfriends'? railsback Aug 2013 #59
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #63
Yeah, the stupid definitely burns bad railsback Aug 2013 #75
If Greenwald was talking about his partner, you might have a point. But he isn't, and you don't. quakerboy Aug 2013 #116
Rachel Maddow used the "boyfriend" term on her show George II Aug 2013 #130
Maybe Im wrong. quakerboy Aug 2013 #131
She referred to him as "his partner, life partner, boyfriend", about 4 minutes into the segment.... George II Aug 2013 #132
I havnt seen specific mention of being married quakerboy Aug 2013 #134
You were correct. They are married. EOTE Aug 2013 #157
....deleted and reposted, i responded to my own post, not the one I intended to respond to... George II Aug 2013 #168
Whether they are married or not really isn't the point, and it makes no difference to me... George II Aug 2013 #169
It kind of IS the point. EOTE Aug 2013 #185
They are married. EOTE Aug 2013 #156
Yes. pnwmom Aug 2013 #133
Do you think anyone regardless of gender or orientation, refers to their husband as their boyfriend? EOTE Aug 2013 #155
Ok, so then Rachel Maddow is ALSO a homophobe railsback Aug 2013 #167
Because a GLBT person says something stupid doesn't make it any less so. EOTE Aug 2013 #184
Like I said... railsback Aug 2013 #195
You're right. It's way beyond ridiculous that people continue to throw out lies and smears EOTE Aug 2013 #204
Yes, you're right railsback Aug 2013 #206
It was Rachel Maddow herself who referred to him as Greenwald's "boyfriend" - the OP... George II Aug 2013 #128
Saying someone has a 'boyfriend' is being homophobic? Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #88
God damn, you can't see why this would be an issue? boston bean Aug 2013 #93
I didn't know they were married Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #94
You might also note that the 'writer' uses the word 'partner' very pointley directly after the Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #109
Every reference I've seen anywhere, including by Greenwald himself, is "partner", not "spouse"! George II Aug 2013 #118
See my other posts earlier - it was MADDOW who called Miranda Greenwald's "boyfriend", dammit! George II Aug 2013 #129
Oh my gosh Iliyah Aug 2013 #120
Amazing, isn't it? George II Aug 2013 #151
HEY! Did you even BOTHER to check out what Rachel Maddow actually said????? George II Aug 2013 #125
There is nothing homophobic about "boyfriend". Thats stupid. phleshdef Aug 2013 #191
Rachel used the term boyfriend Nancy Waterman Aug 2013 #158
Uncle Fester writes a new blog post. Yay, it's my favorite time of the day. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #2
Miranda isn't a "journalist" his partner is, Snowden is holed up in the remnants of the Soviet Union George II Aug 2013 #152
He can't even do the light bulb thing. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #162
I don't believe Britain follows the 4th Amendment... Deep13 Aug 2013 #3
And there you go...journalism is the new terrorism. dkf Aug 2013 #4
It's amazing how people can get played by FOX and others... just to get played again. TheBlackAdder Aug 2013 #9
Who's left?....... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #55
Except terrorism by journalism is not new. Check your history. It is well documented. kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #23
+10000000 railsback Aug 2013 #27
McCarthy was a Congress member abusing his power not a journalist. He was more like the NSA itself Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #45
Hmmmmm. 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2013 #172
Your other right. n/t Cerridwen Aug 2013 #5
A tourist in GB can take a picture of a landmark and get collared for terrorism. n/t TheBlackAdder Aug 2013 #6
Have you no sense of decency, sir or madam? At long last HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #7
The police state thanks you for your service, citizen. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #8
To me the test is whether you would approve of the spying if Bush was still in charge. alarimer Aug 2013 #11
LOL! I only have this as a response to your hilariously ridiculous post! Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #12
Thank you so much for this LearningCurve Aug 2013 #33
LOL leftstreet Aug 2013 #69
LOL! AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #98
So much better than the OP. East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #122
Rachel is not insane... one_voice Aug 2013 #13
About The Peoples View. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #14
just yet another right-wing wanker advertising as a "self-described" liberal frylock Aug 2013 #44
Now-now, I don't think Spam-Dan is a "right-wing..." Wilms Aug 2013 #100
He admits to hating Obama! These DUers that rec Rex Aug 2013 #179
Spandan the Executive Assistant is correcting Dr. Rachel Maddow... WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2013 #108
basically, some blowhard loser. KG Aug 2013 #183
Yep. And ol' Spandan/deaniac83 supports the ACLU... WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2013 #197
He supports Obama too...oh wait, no he doesn't at all. Rex Aug 2013 #201
I just waded into that cesspool known as People's View, and today's topic is "media bullying." WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2013 #207
Spandan: "Good riddance, Barack Obama" WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2013 #110
I've seen homophobic writing on that blog. Not impressed. boston bean Aug 2013 #160
Supporting an Obama hater...why am I not surprised Rex Aug 2013 #176
OH MY GOD. BART GELLMAN OF THE WASHINGTON POST IS A TERRORIST!!!! Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #15
"journalist" who frighten the government are terrorist and should be treated as such Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #16
In a democracy it is the people who are the boss of those in the government... cascadiance Aug 2013 #40
you talk like you think this is a liberal discussion forum Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #66
Are we missing a sarcasm icon in this section of this thread?... cascadiance Aug 2013 #68
in absence of a sarcasm Icon I hope my signature live reveal my literal views Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #71
"This blog is devoted to examining issues from a liberal perspective..." michigandem58 Aug 2013 #17
I play football like a pro... joeybee12 Aug 2013 #22
LMAO LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #36
i'm an astronaut! frylock Aug 2013 #46
That is nice I can lie too if I want to...so why didn't he vote for Obama? Rex Aug 2013 #174
That is some AAA-grade, high octane stupid bullshit. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #18
There's a phrase to remember MFrohike Aug 2013 #91
Exactly.. complain about it if the USA hints at telling another country what Cha Aug 2013 #19
Maddox never claimed to be a Democrat or support Obama. She has a job where she is paid to talk. freshwest Aug 2013 #215
Let me get this straight. Greenwald is terrorizing the USofA. Read the definition again. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #20
People's View rec... SidDithers Aug 2013 #21
What is a neo-Duer? I like to keep up with all the hip lingo. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #29
Evidently a phrase the neo-cons on this site came up with villager Aug 2013 #35
Undoubtedly that is true but I'd like to know the definition. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #48
from earlier context i figured it was analogous to neo-liberal third way "new Dem" nashville_brook Aug 2013 #89
^^^this^^^ L0oniX Aug 2013 #77
Maybe it's someone who can actually vote for Democrats. n/t QC Aug 2013 #121
Boom! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #189
A term the Liberal bashing, Obama haters came up with. Rex Aug 2013 #180
Actually, it was used by an Obama supporter in reference to Snowden supporters. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #181
Which Obama supporter? Rex Aug 2013 #182
Hey, noob. I've been here awhile, and I don't like the site either DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #53
^this too^ L0oniX Aug 2013 #79
Haaaaa! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #193
The recs for a blogger that hates Obama but bashes the Left! Rex Aug 2013 #200
The People's View:"Good Riddance Barack Obama" Fumesucker Aug 2013 #58
The Liberal Bashers on this site have no shame at all. Rex Aug 2013 #175
now there's a brilliant reason to rec something. Not for what it says but cali Aug 2013 #138
Par the course for that one. Rex Aug 2013 #186
Rec for a guy that refused to vote for Obama? Rex Aug 2013 #173
michigandem58 is a King George Democrat AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #24
Thanks alot! Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #41
LOL leftstreet Aug 2013 #52
I usually like The People's View but I disagree with this post Number23 Aug 2013 #25
To whom was he "pedaling" documents? Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #30
Every reasonable account says he was the relaying info to Poitras and Greenwald Number23 Aug 2013 #32
What do you think the definition of peddling is? Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #47
The documents were stolen. They will ALWAYS be stolen. Wrap your head around that. Number23 Aug 2013 #50
And the Pentagon Papers were stolen and they will ALWAYS be stolen... Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #56
And what EXACTLY does that have to do with the current discussion? Number23 Aug 2013 #62
Characterizing journalism as terrorism (see the title of the OP) is persecution. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #70
There is probably a very good reason that you have decided to "bless" my posts with your Number23 Aug 2013 #72
Number23 says, "Who has called for the "persecution" of journalists?" I merely pointed out who has.. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #81
I'm sure peddling is a distinctive strength of yours. Toodles. Number23 Aug 2013 #85
Hmmm. Not exactly. Ellsberg had more of a right to those documents. He helped write them. stevenleser Aug 2013 #105
History will determine if Snowden was a hero or a traitor. ... spin Aug 2013 #26
That's really it right there. nt NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #107
I disagree with the idea that it is terrorism, but rec'd for an interesting perspective. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #28
it is amazing what one can read on liberal/progressive board these days Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #31
That is neither liberal, nor progressive, you mean? villager Aug 2013 #37
It's just a small, noisy group that take these perspectives...... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #60
Whatever their motivation, they're certainly noisy as hell! villager Aug 2013 #127
Is the author of this blog a fucking moron? LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #34
+Infinity! - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #67
The author is a member of DU. Democracyinkind Aug 2013 #73
What screen name? morningfog Aug 2013 #144
I just realized that I misread, sorry. Democracyinkind Aug 2013 #145
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #205
+10000 Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #136
Which idiot wrote this homophobic crap? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #38
Worse, which idiot keeps linking to it on a Democratic board? LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #153
Why do you refere to it as "homophobic"? George II Aug 2013 #170
Bad. This is the same government which has used domestic terrorism against the Occupy movement. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #39
Yeah, calling so many people "terrorists" arbitrarily smacks of the techniques used by the Stasi... cascadiance Aug 2013 #51
Another tired #5 PSPS Aug 2013 #42
Wow, that was helpful. xfundy Aug 2013 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Aug 2013 #211
So. Threats of truth telling should be treated like threats of violence? DirkGently Aug 2013 #43
From !.A, all activities that break the law are terrorism mindwalker_i Aug 2013 #49
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... idwiyo Aug 2013 #61
Don't forget those quakers or that 82 year old nun. Pholus Aug 2013 #64
I said this before. So the US and UK should just ignore Snowden and let all the info out. kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #65
Cowardly Journalists ? Rumold Aug 2013 #104
Whatchu mean "US" and "UK"? eridani Aug 2013 #135
An entire nation held hostage and blackmailed? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #212
I can't believe that people can write such stuff and think of themselves as liberal. Democracyinkind Aug 2013 #74
So, you agree with this ASSessment? xfundy Aug 2013 #76
strong is the fail, with this one.... mike_c Aug 2013 #80
I don't agree with Britain using anti-terror laws in this manner Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2013 #82
can we now at least knock off this bullshit denial about how the pro-surveillance apologist are not Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #83
I accept that some are just very blindly partisan. Or nihilistic. DirkGently Aug 2013 #87
you are probably right - but civil liberties principles include the principle that it applies to Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #92
Yes. It's not a left / right issue at all. Authoritarians DirkGently Aug 2013 #95
Obviously this fucked up US government thinks journalists are probable terrorists. L0oniX Aug 2013 #84
What makes me crazy about this "putting lives in danger" meme is... CincyDem Aug 2013 #86
Thank you! K&R! She also loves Cory Booker, the same guy who defended Bain Capital and Mitt Romney. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #90
Trouble with this Stalwart is that the OP also LOVES Cory Booker I just left a thread about how the Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #112
Yes, and it's a fucking shame, too. There was nothing wrong with the more Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #159
If you can only save our President . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #96
And that's why fascism is okay with michigandem58 Android3.14 Aug 2013 #97
... Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2013 #99
This peoplesview blog is hilarious. Thanks for the daily updates. cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #101
We're not allowed to link to pro-socialist websites NuclearDem Aug 2013 #102
the author of that is a terrorist for using the terrorism charge coercively stupidicus Aug 2013 #103
Tyranny under the veil of "security" is still tyranny. 99Forever Aug 2013 #106
From the headline JEB Aug 2013 #111
they don't mind Miller or Katherine Harris: I remember that they didn't in 2002 (or Yoo) MisterP Aug 2013 #114
It’s obvious that anyone who thinks critically, honestly or with empathy is a terrorist. 20score Aug 2013 #113
OK, but who's to decide what is "terrorism"...John Roberts? Ocelot Aug 2013 #115
There is an old adage "the pen is mightier than the sword" Half-Century Man Aug 2013 #117
Of course it is. Cleita Aug 2013 #119
Seriously-- is there ANYONE at DU who wants to read this shit? Marr Aug 2013 #123
Why post this drivel? Blecht Aug 2013 #124
With quislings like Spandan, who needs terrorists to fuck up this country? n/t whatchamacallit Aug 2013 #126
Your on the wrong website. Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #137
the author of that pathetic website is seriously stupid. cali Aug 2013 #139
I think it's the OP's own website...? Quantess Aug 2013 #146
It's embarrassing that this crap got 22 recs. cali Aug 2013 #140
no kidding Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #188
Not embaressing, revealing. Rex Aug 2013 #192
Remove both bling words: Terrorism and Journalism Little Milly Aug 2013 #141
Terrorism and Journalism are bling words? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #213
There we go. Been looking for someone to come right out and morningfog Aug 2013 #142
Thanks for the suggestion to watch Rachel Maddow's clip. Quantess Aug 2013 #143
Unmitigated right-wing bullshit. This is fascist apologia. morningfog Aug 2013 #147
To those who post or recommend this crap: Have you left no sense of decency? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #148
A shameful lot. Really scary to see how low they go. morningfog Aug 2013 #154
Honestly. Puglover Aug 2013 #171
Not surprised about the thread starter; one or two of the recommenders used to have muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #202
Yes I agree. Puglover Aug 2013 #203
Or so you were led to believe maybe? Rex Aug 2013 #214
and stupidity under the veil of bigotry is still stupidity. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #149
Kick for visibility Bonobo Aug 2013 #150
Your kick is appreciated michigandem58 Aug 2013 #161
And if MLK knew you were using his photo, Bonobo Aug 2013 #164
Yeah NOTE that the blog owner hates Obama and loves to bash the Left Rex Aug 2013 #178
I don't suppose you have a definition for terrorism, do you? n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #163
Good Lord michigandem58 Aug 2013 #165
I don't help spammers fake their clicks-for-cash scams. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #166
Anything that doesn't agree with the current government is terrorism burnodo Aug 2013 #209
So you support a guy that hates Obama and bashes the left? Rex Aug 2013 #177
Actually, I'm far more supportive of President Obama michigandem58 Aug 2013 #194
Not you the idiot blogger you linked to. Rex Aug 2013 #196
Wow Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #187
Something you would expect to read in 1984. Rex Aug 2013 #190
My theory is this is just the disgusting display Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #198
For some I can see that being the case. The blog owner the thread is linked to...no not at all. Rex Aug 2013 #199
LOL. love the pretzel logic. La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #208
Right Wing Garbage Under Veil of Progressive Analysis is Still Right Wing Garbage Matariki Aug 2013 #210
I find it very interesting that the OP was blasted for using a specific term in reference to..... George II Aug 2013 #216
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