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In reply to the discussion: Terrorism Under Veil of Journalism is Still Terrorism [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)215. Maddox never claimed to be a Democrat or support Obama. She has a job where she is paid to talk.
And she's a good voice most of the time, but it may be some bias she has that others not so situated may not have. She wouldn't be human if she didn't. The OP has a right to his opinion, and the nerve this has struck is over the top and not rational. This is from RM's Wikipedia entry:
Asked about her political views by the Valley Advocate, Maddow replied, "I'm undoubtedly a liberal, which means that I'm in almost total agreement with the Eisenhower-era Republican party platform..."
Distinguishing herself from others on the left, Maddow said she's a "national security liberal" and in a different interview that she's not "a partisan."[52][53] The New York Times called her a "defense policy wonk"[40][52] and Maddow has written Drift: The Unmooring of American Military Power (2012), a book on the role of the military in postwar American politics.
During the 2008 presidential election, Maddow did not formally support any candidate. Concerning Barack Obama's candidacy, Maddow said during the primaries, "I have never and still don't think of myself as an Obama supporter, either professionally or actually."[54]
In March 2010, Republican Scott Brown, the junior United States Senator from Massachusetts, speculated that Maddow was going to run against him for his seat in 2012. He used this premise for a fundraising email that read "...The Massachusetts political machine is looking for someone to run against me. And you're not going to believe who they are supposedly trying to recruit liberal MSNBC anchor Rachel Maddow."
Maddow said Brown's speculation was false. On her March 23, 2010, TV program, Maddow said, "I have the best job in the world. I am not running for office. Scott Brown didn't ask me if I was running or planning to run for office before he wrote a fundraising letter with my name. No, it's completely made up by him." Despite her comments, the next day Brown continued along the same line, telling a Boston radio station, "Bring her on."
To help put an end to the matter, Maddow ran a full-page advertisement in The Boston Globe confirming she was not running, and separately demanded Brown's apology. She added that despite repeated invitations over the months, Brown had refused to appear on her TV program.[55][56][57][58] Ultimately, it was Elizabeth Warren who ran in 2012, defeating Brown...[59]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Maddow
She may be a libertarian, for all we know, or some other factor may have gotten her into this. She's not in politics, she's in media. That carries a lot of weight with those in the industry, they always support each other unless their bosses tell them no.
Do the media pundits support us, or do they play us? We can't tell and the idea DUers would attack each other with such viciousness over what they have to say over a public figure sounds like hero worship.
The OP doesn't agree with her one show there, and I never agree with Beck, Rush, O'Reilly and whatever. Does that mean I am deserving of unquestioning respect?
Does anyone think that Maddox, who is making millions of dollars a year, cares what a poster at DU thinks?
I think not. I signed up in the DU2 days to talk with Democrats and learned a lot from those who to the left and right of me, some that I felt uncomfortable with until I found we had common ground in other things. From them I have learned about what their life in the bigger world is.
But calling for people to be banned, piling on and name calling, is not about discussion. It's a mob going after a group in the minority to purge. This is Skinner's website and he chooses who will be a member here. This is spite and does nothing to change the world.
Asked about her political views by the Valley Advocate, Maddow replied, "I'm undoubtedly a liberal, which means that I'm in almost total agreement with the Eisenhower-era Republican party platform..."
Distinguishing herself from others on the left, Maddow said she's a "national security liberal" and in a different interview that she's not "a partisan."[52][53] The New York Times called her a "defense policy wonk"[40][52] and Maddow has written Drift: The Unmooring of American Military Power (2012), a book on the role of the military in postwar American politics.
During the 2008 presidential election, Maddow did not formally support any candidate. Concerning Barack Obama's candidacy, Maddow said during the primaries, "I have never and still don't think of myself as an Obama supporter, either professionally or actually."[54]
In March 2010, Republican Scott Brown, the junior United States Senator from Massachusetts, speculated that Maddow was going to run against him for his seat in 2012. He used this premise for a fundraising email that read "...The Massachusetts political machine is looking for someone to run against me. And you're not going to believe who they are supposedly trying to recruit liberal MSNBC anchor Rachel Maddow."
Maddow said Brown's speculation was false. On her March 23, 2010, TV program, Maddow said, "I have the best job in the world. I am not running for office. Scott Brown didn't ask me if I was running or planning to run for office before he wrote a fundraising letter with my name. No, it's completely made up by him." Despite her comments, the next day Brown continued along the same line, telling a Boston radio station, "Bring her on."
To help put an end to the matter, Maddow ran a full-page advertisement in The Boston Globe confirming she was not running, and separately demanded Brown's apology. She added that despite repeated invitations over the months, Brown had refused to appear on her TV program.[55][56][57][58] Ultimately, it was Elizabeth Warren who ran in 2012, defeating Brown...[59]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Maddow
She may be a libertarian, for all we know, or some other factor may have gotten her into this. She's not in politics, she's in media. That carries a lot of weight with those in the industry, they always support each other unless their bosses tell them no.
Do the media pundits support us, or do they play us? We can't tell and the idea DUers would attack each other with such viciousness over what they have to say over a public figure sounds like hero worship.
The OP doesn't agree with her one show there, and I never agree with Beck, Rush, O'Reilly and whatever. Does that mean I am deserving of unquestioning respect?
Does anyone think that Maddox, who is making millions of dollars a year, cares what a poster at DU thinks?
I think not. I signed up in the DU2 days to talk with Democrats and learned a lot from those who to the left and right of me, some that I felt uncomfortable with until I found we had common ground in other things. From them I have learned about what their life in the bigger world is.
But calling for people to be banned, piling on and name calling, is not about discussion. It's a mob going after a group in the minority to purge. This is Skinner's website and he chooses who will be a member here. This is spite and does nothing to change the world.
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Excuse me, I wasn't the one who referred to Greenwald's 'boyfriend'. This OP
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#57
If Greenwald was talking about his partner, you might have a point. But he isn't, and you don't.
quakerboy
Aug 2013
#116
She referred to him as "his partner, life partner, boyfriend", about 4 minutes into the segment....
George II
Aug 2013
#132
....deleted and reposted, i responded to my own post, not the one I intended to respond to...
George II
Aug 2013
#168
Whether they are married or not really isn't the point, and it makes no difference to me...
George II
Aug 2013
#169
Do you think anyone regardless of gender or orientation, refers to their husband as their boyfriend?
EOTE
Aug 2013
#155
You're right. It's way beyond ridiculous that people continue to throw out lies and smears
EOTE
Aug 2013
#204
It was Rachel Maddow herself who referred to him as Greenwald's "boyfriend" - the OP...
George II
Aug 2013
#128
You might also note that the 'writer' uses the word 'partner' very pointley directly after the
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#109
Every reference I've seen anywhere, including by Greenwald himself, is "partner", not "spouse"!
George II
Aug 2013
#118
See my other posts earlier - it was MADDOW who called Miranda Greenwald's "boyfriend", dammit!
George II
Aug 2013
#129
Uncle Fester writes a new blog post. Yay, it's my favorite time of the day.
DisgustipatedinCA
Aug 2013
#2
Miranda isn't a "journalist" his partner is, Snowden is holed up in the remnants of the Soviet Union
George II
Aug 2013
#152
It's amazing how people can get played by FOX and others... just to get played again.
TheBlackAdder
Aug 2013
#9
Except terrorism by journalism is not new. Check your history. It is well documented.
kelliekat44
Aug 2013
#23
McCarthy was a Congress member abusing his power not a journalist. He was more like the NSA itself
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#45
A tourist in GB can take a picture of a landmark and get collared for terrorism. n/t
TheBlackAdder
Aug 2013
#6
To me the test is whether you would approve of the spying if Bush was still in charge.
alarimer
Aug 2013
#11
LOL! I only have this as a response to your hilariously ridiculous post!
Vinnie From Indy
Aug 2013
#12
I just waded into that cesspool known as People's View, and today's topic is "media bullying."
WorseBeforeBetter
Aug 2013
#207
"journalist" who frighten the government are terrorist and should be treated as such
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#16
In a democracy it is the people who are the boss of those in the government...
cascadiance
Aug 2013
#40
in absence of a sarcasm Icon I hope my signature live reveal my literal views
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#71
Maddox never claimed to be a Democrat or support Obama. She has a job where she is paid to talk.
freshwest
Aug 2013
#215
Let me get this straight. Greenwald is terrorizing the USofA. Read the definition again.
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#20
from earlier context i figured it was analogous to neo-liberal third way "new Dem"
nashville_brook
Aug 2013
#89
Actually, it was used by an Obama supporter in reference to Snowden supporters.
Luminous Animal
Aug 2013
#181
Every reasonable account says he was the relaying info to Poitras and Greenwald
Number23
Aug 2013
#32
The documents were stolen. They will ALWAYS be stolen. Wrap your head around that.
Number23
Aug 2013
#50
Characterizing journalism as terrorism (see the title of the OP) is persecution.
Luminous Animal
Aug 2013
#70
There is probably a very good reason that you have decided to "bless" my posts with your
Number23
Aug 2013
#72
Number23 says, "Who has called for the "persecution" of journalists?" I merely pointed out who has..
Luminous Animal
Aug 2013
#81
Hmmm. Not exactly. Ellsberg had more of a right to those documents. He helped write them.
stevenleser
Aug 2013
#105
I disagree with the idea that it is terrorism, but rec'd for an interesting perspective. nt
stevenleser
Aug 2013
#28
it is amazing what one can read on liberal/progressive board these days
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#31
Bad. This is the same government which has used domestic terrorism against the Occupy movement.
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#39
Yeah, calling so many people "terrorists" arbitrarily smacks of the techniques used by the Stasi...
cascadiance
Aug 2013
#51
I said this before. So the US and UK should just ignore Snowden and let all the info out.
kelliekat44
Aug 2013
#65
I can't believe that people can write such stuff and think of themselves as liberal.
Democracyinkind
Aug 2013
#74
can we now at least knock off this bullshit denial about how the pro-surveillance apologist are not
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#83
you are probably right - but civil liberties principles include the principle that it applies to
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#92
Obviously this fucked up US government thinks journalists are probable terrorists.
L0oniX
Aug 2013
#84
Thank you! K&R! She also loves Cory Booker, the same guy who defended Bain Capital and Mitt Romney.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2013
#90
Trouble with this Stalwart is that the OP also LOVES Cory Booker I just left a thread about how the
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#112
Yes, and it's a fucking shame, too. There was nothing wrong with the more
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2013
#159
the author of that is a terrorist for using the terrorism charge coercively
stupidicus
Aug 2013
#103
they don't mind Miller or Katherine Harris: I remember that they didn't in 2002 (or Yoo)
MisterP
Aug 2013
#114
It’s obvious that anyone who thinks critically, honestly or with empathy is a terrorist.
20score
Aug 2013
#113
With quislings like Spandan, who needs terrorists to fuck up this country? n/t
whatchamacallit
Aug 2013
#126
To those who post or recommend this crap: Have you left no sense of decency?
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2013
#148
Not surprised about the thread starter; one or two of the recommenders used to have
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2013
#202
For some I can see that being the case. The blog owner the thread is linked to...no not at all.
Rex
Aug 2013
#199
Right Wing Garbage Under Veil of Progressive Analysis is Still Right Wing Garbage
Matariki
Aug 2013
#210