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Bradical79

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108. perception /= reality

Thu Aug 29, 2013, 11:48 AM

Aug 2013

You're perceiving a very small minority of people as a greater number because of how much they're posting their nonsense and how much it pisses you off.

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9% approval for bombing Syria = suicide for Dems in 2014 [View all] nashville_brook Aug 2013 OP

second verse, same as the first MisterP Aug 2013 #1

DURec leftstreet Aug 2013 #2

Too true. another_liberal Aug 2013 #41

There can be no better illustration of how unrepresentative DU is than this n2doc Aug 2013 #3

Anybody have on any numbers on pro-bombing DU'ers? philly_bob Aug 2013 #6

There was one in GD. JoeyT Aug 2013 #12

Thanks. 93% against to 7% for U.S. strike on Syria! Wow! (nt) philly_bob Aug 2013 #75

Up to 94% against now. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #84

IOW 93% don't give a rat's azz golfguru Aug 2013 #178

Lie piled atop a steaming pile of NeoCon BS. Shame! - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #182

outrageously out of kilter. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #20

What is? That poster's assertion is total rubbish. There aren't "a lot" of bloodthirsty DU'ers KittyWampus Aug 2013 #42

I agree. There're only a few of you. delrem Aug 2013 #44

I hate to disagree with you doc, but the pro-war contingency here maybe loud, but they are sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #24

go figure... delrem Aug 2013 #74

I hope Skinner is aware that the think tank crowd is destroying his website as well as ushering in grahamhgreen Aug 2013 #34

See my #82. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #83

there are "a lot" of bloodthirsty posters here? Really? Care to characterize how many is "a lot"? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #39

"thin-skinned DU'ers...unable to handle dissenting opinions" nashville_brook Aug 2013 #71

We're not "unable to handle" pro-war opinions. Maedhros Aug 2013 #120

With hyperbolic statements Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #140

I'm not following you. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2013 #141

examples? nashville_brook Aug 2013 #166

Bloodthirsty DUers Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #175

Isn't it sad that it has become impossible to actually have a discussion about this - arely staircase Aug 2013 #188

There is a poll of DUers that shows the exact opposite. 94% of DUers opposed stevenleser Aug 2013 #82

You and your facts Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #139

Yeah, I know, I'm a real party pooper that way. stevenleser Aug 2013 #142

i don't think that poll says what you think it says. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #167

Enlighten us Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #176

The number of Pro-War DUers is very small Marrah_G Aug 2013 #86

Is a screaming tea kettle 'vocal' or just loud? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #88

lol Marrah_G Aug 2013 #89

perception /= reality Bradical79 Aug 2013 #108

And how successful they have been . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #134

I've been incredibly busy so I haven't scoured DU the way I do sometimes tavalon Aug 2013 #109

Apparently one is too many... Blanks Aug 2013 #113

It's not, it's a paraphrase of something our silverspoon sociopath, dubya once said tavalon Aug 2013 #114

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. KamaAina Aug 2013 #115

Too subtle I guess. Blanks Aug 2013 #131

I knew what you meant LearningCurve Aug 2013 #143

I figured you just thought I was a moron... Blanks Aug 2013 #149

Howzabout a War on Greed? :) - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #183

That makes more sense. Blanks Aug 2013 #190

There's this one: NealK Aug 2013 #148

that's a good one -- i think the poster can search in the last week and find plenty more nashville_brook Aug 2013 #168

Bloodthirsty posters??? Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #118

Here comes . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #135

Hyperbole or bloodthirsty DUer? Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #136

I do not . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #145

Oh, and please point to any post by me that supports your claim Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #138

Claim? another_liberal Aug 2013 #144

Yes Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #177

You want me to say I'm sorry? another_liberal Aug 2013 #187

"hyperbolic" -- word of the day!! everyone use the word "hyperbolic"! nashville_brook Aug 2013 #169

Cute Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #174

yeah, the WaPo polling that I saw two days ago was 79% against... grasswire Aug 2013 #4

We'll either be at war by this time next week or we'll see the first of the resignations. If neither leveymg Aug 2013 #32

that's an interesting idea -- i bet there are those staking their "public" career on this... nashville_brook Aug 2013 #171

No trying to be disagreeable... jimlup Aug 2013 #5

I agree. dawg Aug 2013 #101

A lot of just-out-of-high-school kids sign up for service at the lowest levels JDPriestly Aug 2013 #150

More than that actually jimlup Aug 2013 #179

It may not be popular, but it isn't high on most voter's priority list either. tritsofme Aug 2013 #7

it will be. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #28

If it leads to a lot of deaths, it will become a high priority. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #33

So voting really doesn't matter Carolina Aug 2013 #8

absolutely nothing! robinlynne Aug 2013 #67

Say it again. iemitsu Aug 2013 #130

lol! robinlynne Aug 2013 #181

Slogans don't do it for me. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #78

It's been good at raping the environment as well. WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2013 #151

9% approval??? bvar22 Aug 2013 #9

At what point does the U.S. public say enough is enough. Tired of the lies and misinformation. YOHABLO Aug 2013 #10

Which isn't at all likely to happen.(yes, that is a fact, by the way). EOM. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #49

Those facts come with a crystal ball? WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2013 #157

No, but what I said is true: WWIII just isn't all that likely in this day and age. eom AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #170

You don't give the human race enough credit to be stupid WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2013 #172

I doubt that. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #173

You really have a very poor understanding of 1914 and the move to all-out war - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #184

To the contrary, in fact. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #185

1914 did not see a move from peace to 'total war' overnight. Instead, there was a HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #191

"1914 did not see a move from peace to 'total war' overnight." That's what *I* just said......... AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #192

Encroaching senility explains my inadvertent reference to the 'Soviets' - I'm leaving HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #193

People have war fatigue fujiyama Aug 2013 #11

this goes to the heart of the lack of support, and not just on the part of Americans nashville_brook Aug 2013 #103

more presidenting while black? georgee lies amerika into Iwaq + we pound afghanistan w/ hardly a pansypoo53219 Aug 2013 #13

There was quite a peep from many of us when Bush raged to war. No one listened. Autumn Aug 2013 #21

exactly. There were thousands of us in the streets and only foreign news cameras. robinlynne Aug 2013 #68

Hundreds of thousands. Maedhros Aug 2013 #122

Thank-you! robinlynne Aug 2013 #180

The problem was GREED pure and simple. WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2013 #161

Oh no. I'm not about to buy what they are selling. Autumn Aug 2013 #163

I find your post rather offensive BrotherIvan Aug 2013 #31

Apparently this is the subtext here, as the think tank crowd reaches deep into their psy-op bag of grahamhgreen Aug 2013 #43

Just because you werent listening to us quakerboy Aug 2013 #52

If invading Syria had been linked to ending the 1973 Oil Crisis, HoneychildMooseMoss Aug 2013 #69

Hardly a peep? Doctor_J Aug 2013 #154

I stood on a busy corner in San Diego in 2004 with a sign WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2013 #164

K&R Ocelot Aug 2013 #14

= suicide in 2014 AND 2016. Shanti Mama Aug 2013 #15

being a local kind of person, i've 2014 on the brain nashville_brook Aug 2013 #22

Right.....like the Libya involvment led to defeat in 2012? brooklynite Aug 2013 #62

Victory would involve enough House seats to run a functioning government and DNC failed Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #91

Because of Libya? Or because of Gerrymandering in 2010? brooklynite Aug 2013 #105

As democrats who are we going to vote for? Repukes??? I think not... ileus Aug 2013 #16

with a 9% approval rating it's the swing vote that's a concern. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #27

The casuals and the throngs that voted for change in 2008 will stay home in droves Doctor_J Aug 2013 #156

Not necessarily. The US might be at a turning point. delrem Aug 2013 #47

I will not vote for any Democrat that supports Syrian intervention Maedhros Aug 2013 #125

You got that right. Autumn Aug 2013 #17

It's hard to know how they will position themselves... Maybe to the Militant RW? KoKo Aug 2013 #18

That can't be. I've been told on DU just yesterday that I am a 'fringe' extremist who represents sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #19

it's amazing what happens when you don't get your news from DU... nashville_brook Aug 2013 #25

Peace Purist Puritan! leftstreet Aug 2013 #26

Welcome and revel in their hatred. They're just simple people that are seeing their fantasy crumble Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #119

I do revel in it. Those old labels have zero impact having being so overused and sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #123

"Left is Always Right" Always has been and there is no sign of that changing Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #124

I wish I could rec this twice. Vanje Aug 2013 #23

What has happened? What did I miss? Oye. Get a life. nt babylonsister Aug 2013 #29

Get a life? Enthusiast Aug 2013 #79

Less popular than Congress! sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author JustanAngel Aug 2013 #57

I don't believe it. 'Mercuns love to see big 'splshuns BlueStreak Aug 2013 #35

Your comment is highly anti-American and anti-democracy, IMHO. Thanks grahamhgreen Aug 2013 #45

Your concern is noted with all the respect it is due. BlueStreak Aug 2013 #63

Yeah, but when these 'splshits boost up the price of a fill up... Amonester Aug 2013 #53

That is definitely a scenario BlueStreak Aug 2013 #65

I'd go one further... durablend Aug 2013 #94

And Obama and his Wall Street buddies have certainly positioned themselves well Maedhros Aug 2013 #127

Indeed. joshcryer Aug 2013 #54

Compare and contrast the Libyan military defense capabilities with those of Syria Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #93

The sad facts are that once the hammer falls the opposition will dissipate, Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #36

He has already caused irrevocable damage to the party. mick063 Aug 2013 #37

Good for you! another_liberal Aug 2013 #38

And it isn't even to 'punish' anyone for killing people. We kill people every day, we don't care sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #46

Those in elected office will only listen if they begin to fear for their reelection. another_liberal Aug 2013 #48

Absolutely. We are to blame for always going along with the sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #146

Very true. another_liberal Aug 2013 #147

It's a slow motion modern day crusade. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #80

I'll bet it would trigger impeachment too. The Rebuplicans are probably licking their lips. Kablooie Aug 2013 #40

K&R DeSwiss Aug 2013 #50

Add the price of gas that's going up-swing because of all the m$m raw-raw Amonester Aug 2013 #51

It depends creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #55

In a democracy, I might see how that kind of thing would matter. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #56

It's a price we pay for freedom jsr Aug 2013 #58

what do you expect in country where 91% of the population are a mixture of fringe far leftist and Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #59

as Derrida said... nashville_brook Aug 2013 #60

Derrida made Reagan possible :) - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #70

i see that now. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #99

the 91% fringe Doctor_J Aug 2013 #158

If we lived in a representative democracy... workinclasszero Aug 2013 #61

Finally found a silver lining DaveT Aug 2013 #64

i'm not sure about it either. i figured it would have been done and over by now... nashville_brook Aug 2013 #92

Anti-Obama fervor is at the level of W cheer leading after 9-11 SaveAmerica Aug 2013 #66

being pro-Obama and being pro-war should be separate nashville_brook Aug 2013 #73

Suicide? Nonsense jzodda Aug 2013 #72

Shocked I had to read this far down for this answer. harun Aug 2013 #81

Yes, if. DaveT Aug 2013 #95

Usually agree with you Mr. President, but not on this one. Stay out of Syria! demosincebirth Aug 2013 #76

When a proposed government military action only has 9% Enthusiast Aug 2013 #77

Everyone has seen this movie before, it didn't end well Marrah_G Aug 2013 #85

Screwing the pooch. Little Star Aug 2013 #87

So just to make sure I understand this. Savannahmann Aug 2013 #90

And what exactly is a "punishment bombing?" DirkGently Aug 2013 #96

The whole WMD obsession DaveT Aug 2013 #97

"Pre-emptive self-defense." A Bush-era fallacy. DirkGently Aug 2013 #98

"Tough Leader" PR. See LBJ, Nixon, Reagan, Bushes, for precedents. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #106

Oh, I have to add that one to the list. woo me with science Aug 2013 #100

indeedydoodoo. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #102

So, 91% is the "Peace Purist" fringe? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #104

precisely. know your place Peace Purist! nashville_brook Aug 2013 #110

Better than being a racist Doctor_J Aug 2013 #155

good op ! nt steve2470 Aug 2013 #107

gotta kick this Coyotl Aug 2013 #111

That's a bit hard to say IMHO Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2013 #112

empowering to GOP which paints Dems as inept in military intervention. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #116

2014 is too far off for more than minimal impact on elections. Progressive dog Aug 2013 #117

I'm not so sure about that, TBH. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #121

"purity-obsessed factions of the far left" -- wow, really? nashville_brook Aug 2013 #128

Unfortunately, it's true. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #129

No. The "peace / purity obsessed left" is a fiction. DirkGently Aug 2013 #132

Again, there's a difference between opposing intervention, and.....well, you know already. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #133

Oh hardly. Zoeisright Aug 2013 #126

Things WILL go sideways as well. obxhead Aug 2013 #137

Proxy wars are notoriously difficult to control nashville_brook Aug 2013 #160

all 9% are BOG regulars Doctor_J Aug 2013 #152

If he bombs Syria, signs off on TPP, and on KeystoneXL, my party of 50 years will be Doctor_J Aug 2013 #153

K&R. No shortage of Judith Miller... Mr_Jefferson_24 Aug 2013 #159

thanks! it's weird though, that there's not too many mainstream Judith Millerss... nashville_brook Aug 2013 #165

UK Parliament defeats Syria resolution yay !!!! nt steve2470 Aug 2013 #162

If he doesn't bomb Syria, republicans will scream he's soft on fighting terror. B Calm Aug 2013 #186

Update: 50% support military action limited to air strikes (NBC poll) brooklynite Aug 2013 #189