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DirkGently

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42. It's sad. But if endless violent machinations are all we have

Thu Aug 29, 2013, 02:58 PM

Aug 2013

to offer the world anymore: guns and drones and greed, then the Bush / Cheney / PNAC vision has won, and we are simply winding down our preeminence, one failure at a time.

We can do better.

But CAN we?

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IF USA Cares About Int'l War Crimes Law-We Would Do Better By Delivering Cheney To The Hague-Instead [View all] kpete Aug 2013 OP

No truer words. jsr Aug 2013 #1

Damn right newfie11 Aug 2013 #2

DURec leftstreet Aug 2013 #3

Bingo. And I'll chip in for air fare. Scuba Aug 2013 #4

And Blair malaise Aug 2013 #5

Fine in theory, except... JayhawkSD Aug 2013 #6

We'll call it extraordinary rendition--that will cover it Demeter Aug 2013 #33

My laugh of the week - thank, Demeter. truedelphi Aug 2013 #44

It would have far more meaning, IMHO, if our own DoJ prosecuted Cheney and other HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #48

Bravo! City Lights Aug 2013 #7

long overdue Faryn Balyncd Aug 2013 #8

Yes indeed. nt AtomicKitten Aug 2013 #9

War Tribunal Finds Bush, Cheney Guilty of War Crimes PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #10

Old and not pertinent... brooklynite Aug 2013 #54

yes G_j Aug 2013 #11

while everyone on DU knows bushco was guilty of war crimes and treason dionysus Aug 2013 #12

Has the Hague started a case? treestar Aug 2013 #13

Torture is a war crime. JoeyT Aug 2013 #15

I don't know if our DU definitions are accepted by the Hague treestar Aug 2013 #16

Because every time anyone starts agitating about war crimes JoeyT Aug 2013 #18

I think this country recognized that as being wrong treestar Aug 2013 #22

Bush was just the happy, goofy, pretzel choking, truedelphi Aug 2013 #45

The Hague does have cases against Africans treestar Aug 2013 #49

Interestng tht the indictment against the current President of Kenya truedelphi Aug 2013 #66

It was a war of aggression. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #17

thanks for that treestar Aug 2013 #19

Sadly the apologists don't care you can show them real data Rex Aug 2013 #35

Wow. Maedhros Aug 2013 #24

It's not surprising Ocelot Aug 2013 #25

Nothing new. Rex Aug 2013 #34

Typical treestar Aug 2013 #50

I would be concerned, if I had any respect for your flimsy arguments. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2013 #55

At least I try to make one treestar Aug 2013 #56

Meh. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2013 #57

Why would the Hague start a case if no one has brought one before them? Rex Aug 2013 #32

If you know how it works, explain treestar Aug 2013 #51

. Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2013 #47

Exactly! gvstn Aug 2013 #14

Amen grahamhgreen Aug 2013 #20

Our International Morality Police credit is at 0. DirkGently Aug 2013 #21

And yet, the entire world (except for Russia and China) expect us to doing something FSogol Aug 2013 #31

"Expect" us to, or "want us to?" DirkGently Aug 2013 #41

'Crumbling empire', Dirk. You nailed it. toby jo Aug 2013 #40

It's sad. But if endless violent machinations are all we have DirkGently Aug 2013 #42

For using Chemical Weapons in Fallujah alone. The number of babies being born sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #23

. libodem Aug 2013 #26

One can use the same arguments vis-a-vis Bush/Cheney war crimes and Assad's alleged use of CW Maedhros Aug 2013 #27

Absolutely! Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #28

This ... CherokeeDem Aug 2013 #29

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #30

Obama doesnt go after war criminals because iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #36

Yes he is. He is Commander in Chief of a military that has propped up Congo truedelphi Aug 2013 #46

Yes walkerbait41 Aug 2013 #37

k & r that! n/t wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #38

We need to join the World Court WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2013 #39

But the decider of all things gets to practice dichotomous behavior in a most holy and indepat Aug 2013 #43

Hear, hear! nt Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #52

Double here, here and the rest of his cabal with him. n/t Cleita Aug 2013 #53

Amen, Cleita, amen. nt Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #60

Ditto bingo! emsimon33 Aug 2013 #58

Bump... nt Jesus Malverde Aug 2013 #59

Amen randr Aug 2013 #61

This should have more recommendations. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #62

K & R n/t Hotler Aug 2013 #63

Think outside the box damnedifIknow Aug 2013 #64

Can't we do both? Chan790 Aug 2013 #65