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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 04:18 PM Sep 2013

Social Security and Medicare CUTS MAY BE COMING. Here's Why. [View all]





It's autumn, when a politician's fancy turns to thoughts of a Grand Bargain.




Right now it looks as if the two sides are at an impasse. But the President's "no negotiations" posture only applies to the debt ceiling, and his budget still includes the "chained CPI" cut to Social Security. The Republicans who are attempting to force a showdown over Obamacare are still railing against the programs they call "entitlements."They're all looking for a face-saving deal, and Social Security and Medicare could very well become that deal's Ground Zero.



Winter's Boehner

Autumn. The leaves begin to turn. The birds get ready to fly south. And an unpopular, shapeshifting lobbying group which takes many names and forms - the "American Comeback Initiative," The Can Kicks Back, AmericaSpeaks, and our favorite, Budgetball ("The Fountainhead Meets Deathrace 2000") - renews its PR campaign against "entitlements" for the disabled and aging. Or, as the rest of the nation knows them, Social Security and Medicare.



Like harbingers of a hard winter, anti-entitlement spokesmen Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles have returned to the nation's capital. These constituentless advocates for a widely disliked set of policies were given their usual unwarranted level of press coverage. Somewhat messianically, Simpson told Politico that "we have to be in reserve" in case politicians "put their country at risk" - by failing to impose the destructive austerity policies favored by Bowles and Simpson's backers. "But don't use our names," adds Simpson, "because that might be too volatile. We're both on the witness protection program now."



Only the relentlessly narcissistic Simpson could claim to be "on the witness protection program" while giving an interview to Politico. And his talking points have been receiving equally widespread exposure. The catch phrases crafted by Simpson's sponsors were used by John Boehner when he spoke about entitlements last month in Idaho. "I made up my mind that we weren't going to kick the can down the road anymore," he told the audience at a Boise fundraiser. It's all part of a wider Washington offensive. As another recent Politico news item reported, "Fix the Debt is ramping back up its lobbying efforts as government funding fights become the topic du jour on Capitol Hill."



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http://crooksandliars.com/richard-rj-eskow/social-security-and-medicare-cuts
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KNR. Cs&Ls is one of the better blogs out there. Thnx for posting. leveymg Sep 2013 #1
Fuck that. Go with the overbloated MIC complex. It needs to be cut down to 1/8th Frankie the Bird Sep 2013 #2
Amen.... daleanime Sep 2013 #33
simpson and bowles two has beens desperately trying to be relevant madrchsod Sep 2013 #3
The Catfood Commission is baaaaack! leftstreet Sep 2013 #4
The time to call your CongressCritters is NOW!!! cui bono Sep 2013 #5
You got that right! Vanje Sep 2013 #58
Well, as long as it is not a slash then we will be alright. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #6
I agree. Hell, it's just a little cut 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #13
The slash is worth almost a Social Security check a year. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #19
The Dem party is morphing into something else when they offer cuts to SS and Medicare. L0oniX Sep 2013 #25
It is no wonder so many are turned off to our own party. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #28
did I forget my sarcasm smilie? 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #30
I understood you. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #41
got it. this certainly is a subject worthy of commiseratin' about. 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #47
"Funny how we have money to start a war with Syria..." R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #44
Grandma must eat cat food? I guess that's okay since it's so important to save Republican face. n/t lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #7
Grandma must eat cat food.... Segami Sep 2013 #8
Any Democrat that goes along with this idea is NO democrat. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #9
+1,000 Scuba Sep 2013 #10
DITTO^THIS * DITTO^THIS * DITTO^THIS * DITTO^THIS nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #16
Amen Liberalynn Sep 2013 #27
Hell ya...... daleanime Sep 2013 #35
Any PARTY that goes along with this - ditto. n/t jtuck004 Sep 2013 #38
Thats right. Vanje Sep 2013 #53
Absolutely. THIS is the line. WinkyDink Sep 2013 #54
A big PLUS ONE! nt Enthusiast Sep 2013 #69
Here we go again... Hydra Sep 2013 #11
Do yourself a big favor and put every BOGie on ignore. L0oniX Sep 2013 #22
Seriously considering it Hydra Sep 2013 #32
Who is their epic troll... Frankie the Bird Sep 2013 #36
I'm kinda in a dither right now Hydra Sep 2013 #45
that one is more entertaining than the rest Skittles Sep 2013 #51
That one is certainly a Pro Hydra Sep 2013 #52
Perhaps more importantly put them on your jury blacklist kenny blankenship Sep 2013 #39
Ya, I thought to do that when I got really into it with one of them one day Hydra Sep 2013 #40
The jury blacklist needs to have a larger capacity. L0oniX Sep 2013 #43
The Jury Black list needs to be improved by not allowing Alerts by those on a person's Black list. RC Sep 2013 #77
Excellent idea. L0oniX Sep 2013 #79
I've never once used the jury system for personal sh** Skittles Sep 2013 #64
Most of those people spout no actual policy points. Vanje Sep 2013 #57
but they are NOT conservatives Skittles Sep 2013 #65
Rope-a-derp! Marr Sep 2013 #56
Obama seems to lean toward the concepts of compromise and grand bargain HereSince1628 Sep 2013 #12
K & R & ... AzDar Sep 2013 #14
Should the Super Rich draw Medicare and SS checks when they get old??????? Cryptoad Sep 2013 #15
If they paid into it, YES. duffyduff Sep 2013 #17
Duffy is correct! Vanje Sep 2013 #59
I'm with you on the cap. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #71
I agree. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #70
I agree. Also, there's The Cap to consider 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #18
There should be no FICA cap,,,,period Cryptoad Sep 2013 #21
Now yer talkin! Vanje Sep 2013 #60
Raise the damn cap. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #24
As stated above, if they paid into it, yes. SMC22307 Sep 2013 #26
If Dems cut Social Security and Medicare in any way they can kiss 2014 goodby. L0oniX Sep 2013 #20
If they cut SS and medicare to the Super Rich Cryptoad Sep 2013 #23
Disagree Vanje Sep 2013 #62
+1,000,000,000. n/t winter is coming Sep 2013 #75
This may be the breaking point for politics as usual! LongTomH Sep 2013 #29
Clintonism has and still is doing great harm to the Dem party. L0oniX Sep 2013 #34
Our Spineless President 1ProudAtheist Sep 2013 #31
Please don't mix "loyal democrats and progressives". No progresive would be loyal over principle. L0oniX Sep 2013 #37
+1 Segami Sep 2013 #42
Aren't we progressives just dirty longhair socialsits or so sand so... (?) R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #46
Grand Bargain for the 1% - as usual. nt TBF Sep 2013 #48
I wrote about this "Grand Bargain" 4 months ago........ socialist_n_TN Sep 2013 #49
Kicked and recommended although chained CPI is just "death by a thousand cuts." Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #50
After 5 years of screaming about this, it's still no closer to actually happening Recursion Sep 2013 #55
doesn't matter Skittles Sep 2013 #66
And you don't imagine that all that kicking and screaming had anything to do with that? n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #67
I'll be pleasantly surprised if we make it through the latest installment of Deficit Theater winter is coming Sep 2013 #61
I think it would be tough to get Democratic legislators to support this right before an election Samantha Sep 2013 #63
Just proposing Chained CPI might do enough damage. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #72
We must eat our peas? Enthusiast Sep 2013 #68
Chained CPI = mass murder of old people eridani Sep 2013 #73
^ Wilms Sep 2013 #74
Didn't we save money not bombing Syria? abelenkpe Sep 2013 #76
There's 93b we can save every year! grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #78
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