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85. He has a history of standing up for his beliefs.

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One by one, Pope greets hundreds in wheelchairs, laments society’s rejection of the disabled [View all] rug Nov 2013 OP

Gee. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #1

Yes, this is so controversial. rug Nov 2013 #2

You've seen all the strife Pope threads have caused in the last few days. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #4

So, you oppose or support welcoming people in wheelchairs? rug Nov 2013 #7

I'm not going to get into it. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #10

Suit yourself. Although the answer is quite simple. rug Nov 2013 #11

Should I start a thread every time you do your job? Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #13

Oooh, that would be nice. I'm drafting a will Monday. Let me know when you start the post. rug Nov 2013 #16

Do share with us what other Pope has ever done this. Thanks! nt babylonsister Nov 2013 #17

john the 23rd was awesome. I am of the opinion that when someone acts like roguevalley Nov 2013 #33

I am enjoying it too. Shaking things up. I like it. nt Mojorabbit Nov 2013 #79

Welcome to my IGNORE list CountAllVotes Nov 2013 #119

Well Said! Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #123

My hatred for the Pope is justified. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #160

Hatred of any one is not a healthy choice. No Vested Interest Nov 2013 #171

Hatred only hurts you in the end. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #189

Looks like you already did. Bobbie Jo Nov 2013 #185

Obviously a good person billhicks76 Nov 2013 #57

I'm with you, brother......................nt Enthusiast Nov 2013 #110

My son and husband are disabled. My daughter is bi. I can support what he is doing for the sick, liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #12

I hope all your loved ones are doing well. rug Nov 2013 #15

He hasn't done anything to change his own views on homosexuality. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #20

He said "who am i to judge?" MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #51

Actually he said who are you to judge chaste GLBT people. Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #127

"all the strife"… it really is just you and maybe 3 or 4 other DU'ers. So "all" is over playing it. KittyWampus Nov 2013 #19

Discussion forums exist for people to share their opinions, do they not? Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #21

yes they are. you should address this to the person who complained about rug expressing his opinion arely staircase Nov 2013 #139

So stop reading them. 840high Nov 2013 #26

Your post is the first match Renew Deal Nov 2013 #36

rug has a history of doing this. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #81

He has a history of standing up for his beliefs. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #85

And starting problems. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #100

No. you just don't like what he says. Rug does not cause problems here. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #102

Uh huh. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #103

Well if pope threads are going to be allowed in GD now then he can post on it. I work with Rug on hrmjustin Nov 2013 #105

Well, not all Pope threads ARE allowed on GD theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #196

Ok several things. While some of the pope threads were alerted on not all were. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #197

I am not interested in posting my thread to the religious forum theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #198

You make a good point. It had had a political nature to it. I would have left it. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #199

I was interested in reading the story Dorian Gray Nov 2013 #194

It appears his beliefs violate DU's rules... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #128

Implying, no mattter how obliquely, that a member is a bigot is a ToS violsation. rug Nov 2013 #130

Are you like your fellow Catholic, Gman, and teach gay kids they are intrinsically disordered? Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #134

Are you like your fellow antiCatholics and preach that Catholics are intrinsically disordered? rug Nov 2013 #137

I condemn people for the beliefs they hold, and I oppose those beliefs... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #140

Oh get off your high horse, blanketing hatred with principle. The hypocirisy iis stunning. rug Nov 2013 #143

What hatred? Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #145

Lol. rug Nov 2013 #152

Being a RC violates the rules? hrmjustin Nov 2013 #169

Some of the beliefs held by the Church are a violation of some of DU's rules... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #173

He does not hold those beliefs. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #174

Evidence? All I see is his reactionary need to defend his church... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #193

I know rug, besides I am not the one making the accusation, you are. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #195

lol Bobbie Jo Nov 2013 #188

Respectfully, there are several ways you can hide pope threads. pacalo Nov 2013 #97

Lol, that last ssentence is ironic. rug Nov 2013 #132

if you don't like it then don't open it book_worm Nov 2013 #69

Why is it so important to stifle dissent about the pope? Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #101

Well, if it weren't for people who keep popping up to start shit in such threads... n/t Scootaloo Nov 2013 #163

Yeah...god forbid I stick up for LGBT rights. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #164

Now I see the problem, you think this thread is about LGBT or homophobia. A Simple Game Nov 2013 #179

... Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #180

No, this thread was about a pope that was greeting handicapped people. A Simple Game Nov 2013 #184

Okay, I'll play theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #182

So you are saying that the Catholic church has a problem with handicapped people. OK. A Simple Game Nov 2013 #186

Not exactly. theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #187

lol Iggo Nov 2013 #191

That is fantastic. I love it. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #3

Me too. Tired of the pope haters. Courtesy Flush Nov 2013 #41

Yes, we don't agree with him 100% skepticscott Nov 2013 #64

You can answer your own question but you are doing a fine job of division. rug Nov 2013 #68

Tired of the lovers of the homophobic pope HERVEPA Nov 2013 #90

I consider this a good thing, even tho I am a big critic of the Vatican... CTyankee Nov 2013 #5

That's nice…but this is what any leader of a church should be doing…it shouldn't be big news... Tikki Nov 2013 #6

I agree. But I laud it when it does happen. rug Nov 2013 #8

So did I and it is nice…I have worked with the disabled and like us all it is amazing to.. Tikki Nov 2013 #18

But it is BIG news since so many leaders of a church don't do it. kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #77

So you're saying we should get down on our knees skepticscott Nov 2013 #82

the fact he stopped to greet each one and chat a little is what makes this clearly not a cynical PR arely staircase Nov 2013 #9

that's kind of what I was thinking kydo Nov 2013 #22

The disabled are often forgotten in our politically charged discussions LittleBlue Nov 2013 #14

Thanks for the picture rug. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #23

This is a teaching moment for all, he is living his faith and many could follow his example Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #24

And his comments about Gays as parents is following his faith and an example to follow? HERVEPA Nov 2013 #91

As you find a problem and it might be too much for you to overcome then the rest of the readers can Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #125

yes. declining to judge others is an exampe to follow. that would be the most recent thing he has arely staircase Nov 2013 #141

Sorry, only counts if he verbally and specifically reputes earlier statements. HERVEPA Nov 2013 #142

iyho nt arely staircase Nov 2013 #144

Duh, everything on this board is isho HERVEPA Nov 2013 #149

Thank you. Now run and hide. 840high Nov 2013 #25

Uh-oh!! I can see some DUer's heads exploding. madinmaryland Nov 2013 #27

Why? I'm sure there are pictures of Sen. Owen Hill teaching and caring for poor kids in Africa... Moonwalk Nov 2013 #106

Yet conservative "Christians" prefer televangelist hucksters. JEFF9K Nov 2013 #28

Seen tribes come to do almost the same thing with disabled people. Strong advocates, seldom heard. freshwest Nov 2013 #29

Oh, well, in that case, he is apparently a saint! Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #30

These people and their families are clearly believers. He did a fine thing. nolabear Nov 2013 #31

Another well-staged photo op for the pope skepticscott Nov 2013 #32

. Dawson Leery Nov 2013 #40

Your implication is that the people in the picture are dupes or willing props. rug Nov 2013 #43

+1 cordelia Nov 2013 #52

I think he Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #34

Francis does good works... Historic NY Nov 2013 #35

When I see a crowd like that of LGBT people and they are being given communion William769 Nov 2013 #37

You don't think there are LGBT people there? rug Nov 2013 #38

Who knows. William769 Nov 2013 #39

I think there are many, and I know some, who receive Communion and there are many priests, I know 2, rug Nov 2013 #42

Sorry but I find nothing in the Catholic church interesting. William769 Nov 2013 #44

Then you're missing most of western history. rug Nov 2013 #46

Or when the pope is performing a marriage ceremony skepticscott Nov 2013 #45

Do tell, scott. What am I pretending? rug Nov 2013 #47

There are several words I could use but choose not to so I will just use one. William769 Nov 2013 #48

What's the delusion? rug Nov 2013 #50

That describes the religionists skepticscott Nov 2013 #63

Congratulations. You just called most posters in this thread, if not on DU, delusional. rug Nov 2013 #66

I would love to see that day happen. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #49

Pray a little harder, because some are trying to pray the Gay away. William769 Nov 2013 #53

I will my friend. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #55

i can totally understand your point of view on this topic. dionysus Nov 2013 #70

Nailed it... SidDithers Nov 2013 #129

Pope photo op of the day... To bad he also laments the rejection of pedophile priests Ohio Joe Nov 2013 #54

Don't forget to mention the Crusades, Giordano Bruno and Galileo while you're at it. rug Nov 2013 #56

Did you bother to read it? They fired the whistleblower last week Ohio Joe Nov 2013 #59

Yes I read it and good for him. But it is in fact a different topic. rug Nov 2013 #60

Way to act decisively... Fire the whistleblower... That will protect the kids Ohio Joe Nov 2013 #61

If you read the link, the superiors of his Order reassigned him. rug Nov 2013 #65

So... First dismiss it...Then deny it... Then ignore it... But boy oh boy does he take a good pic Ohio Joe Nov 2013 #71

The problem is I have to remove the glass from the monitor first, then wipe it off from the back. rug Nov 2013 #74

Ahhh... The old 'lets lable them as angry' bit... Do you think anyone will buy it? Ohio Joe Nov 2013 #78

I didn't say "them" and I didn't say "angry". I said "you" and I said "tired, bigoted and stupid" rug Nov 2013 #83

Yeah... Having a bit of trouble following? Ohio Joe Nov 2013 #95

Not in the least. I know where it goes after the flush. rug Nov 2013 #96

I see... We should only mention good things about him Ohio Joe Nov 2013 #104

Do you think the pope should not be supporting the disabled? sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #148

That is what you get from this? Ohio Joe Nov 2013 #153

This is a relatively new pope, the first from his part of the world. That alone is a change. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #155

Non-sense... No more then lip service is being given to the issues Ohio Joe Nov 2013 #157

I'm happy to know how very much in the minority you are on this issue. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #158

WTF? Ohio Joe Nov 2013 #159

Does it bother you that on an issue you claim to be so concerned about sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #170

The pope supports full rights for gays? Bullshit, plain and simple. Ohio Joe Nov 2013 #172

Now now, Ohio Joe... theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #175

And the facts are? ?? sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #176

Well, I'd say start here theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #177

Well, I'd say start here... theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #178

Not a very good attempt at avoidance, coupled with putting words into my mouth which I did not say. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #192

Shhh! Just surrender to the PR and slobber over this pope Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #67

A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. rug Nov 2013 #72

Yeah. You're describing yourself. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #73

I haven't seen any slobbering. rug Nov 2013 #75

But he's a nice guy! Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #80

Francis! What an asshole! baldguy Nov 2013 #58

it matters to THEM. and that's ALL that matters. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #62

I am not a fan of organized religion. I am *really* not a fan of organized religion. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #76

He's tried to improve image, and that is all skepticscott Nov 2013 #84

Where do you see People here supporting Sexism and homophobia? hrmjustin Nov 2013 #86

Neever mind that, where are the rabid people? rug Nov 2013 #87

LOL. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #88

LOL! nt laundry_queen Nov 2013 #118

Sexism and anti-gay bigotry are skepticscott Nov 2013 #120

No one here supports that here. I understand you reasoning but we are just saying we like the hrmjustin Nov 2013 #168

What's with all the hate in this thread? geomon666 Nov 2013 #89

This has been going on for days now. Brigid Nov 2013 #92

Apparently a Pope greeting people in wheelchairs is the equivalent of pissing in cornflakes. rug Nov 2013 #93

I guess so n/t geomon666 Nov 2013 #94

People are angry at the Church in general, and with good reason. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #99

Where did all the hate skepticscott Nov 2013 #121

Apparently none of them brought enough money to be healed. xfundy Nov 2013 #98

Okay, so I have a question theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #107

Here are a couple more that accept men and women with disabilities. rug Nov 2013 #109

Maybe they need to work on being more inclusive themselves, then. theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #112

This blows my mind. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #108

Hundreds of thousands of children raped... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #111

Probably because most people don't fall for histrionic bullshit. rug Nov 2013 #113

Good point, it's just kids and women and gays. Right? Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #114

No, it's just you. rug Nov 2013 #115

At least not as easily as they fall for a well orchestrated PR campaign theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #116

No one is falling for anything. rug Nov 2013 #117

He is a good Pope and all his church people below him need to follow his example. Sunlei Nov 2013 #122

does he have a pet or two? one would think a Pope named Francis would also love animals :) Sunlei Nov 2013 #124

The Papal PR team kicks into high gear... SidDithers Nov 2013 #126

And the hate all things Catholic team slithers out one by one . . . . rug Nov 2013 #136

Call the whambulance... SidDithers Nov 2013 #147

Here, just for you. rug Nov 2013 #151

Oh the irony! whistler162 Nov 2013 #150

Watching video of this moved me to tears Justice Nov 2013 #131

My prayers go out to those in wheel chairs polynomial Nov 2013 #133

A belated welcome to DU. rug Nov 2013 #138

In order for the women and LBGT to be heard arthritisR_US Nov 2013 #135

Well, as I pointed out earler... theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #161

That is what they are counting on with this arthritisR_US Nov 2013 #162

Yep. theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #165

I figure they hired BP's PR firm just before the arthritisR_US Nov 2013 #166

Grandstanding. Religious conservatives are primarily responsible for this rejection of the disabled. Zorra Nov 2013 #146

Not a Catholic or a practitioner of any Skidmore Nov 2013 #154

k&r... spanone Nov 2013 #156

knr Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #167

As a former Catholic and now an agnostic, I see this as a very big deal. A Simple Game Nov 2013 #181

Yeah, shame on me, god damn it: Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #183

I don't know why the Pope haters just don't avoid reading posts about him. Beacool Nov 2013 #190