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gollygee

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5. People don't use this language for anything else in health care

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 06:59 AM

Nov 2013

There are tons of medical procedures that would be less necessary if people made different choices before they were in a position to need that medical procedure, and in none but abortion does anyone make a comment about how they wish it were rare.

Dental fillings: Safe, legal, but secondary to regular tooth brushing.

Heart surgery: Safe, legal, but secondary to not smoking and eating well.

People don't talk about things they're OK with happening in those terms. The "rare" bit is only thrown in for abortion.

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OK. How about "safe, legal and SECONDARY TO BIRTH CONTROL?" [View all] sibelian Nov 2013 OP

How about just "safe and legal"? REP Nov 2013 #1

+1 Laffy Kat Nov 2013 #2

+2 SunSeeker Nov 2013 #3

Hm! sibelian Nov 2013 #4

That is the language right there on point Nov 2013 #14

People don't use this language for anything else in health care gollygee Nov 2013 #5

TBH, I'd never head the phrase used before seeing it on DU. sibelian Nov 2013 #11

Safe, legal and PRIVATE Ava Gadro Nov 2013 #6

^^^THIS^^^ TorchTheWitch Nov 2013 #8

Yeah. Definitely coming round to that... sibelian Nov 2013 #10

I getyour point but I'm not sure adding "private" will do very much. CTyankee Nov 2013 #12

That's not a bad idea. CTyankee Nov 2013 #7

It already is secondary quaker bill Nov 2013 #9

nope. still none of anyone else's business why a woman needs to terminate. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #13

+1 theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #15

Rare means different things to different people. boston bean Nov 2013 #16

Exactly. That's why I discuss with liberals who use that antiquated phrase whenever I can. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #17

I like to add that women are moral agents and therefore, can make these decisions on their own. CTyankee Nov 2013 #29

control-z's signature of "Trust women" sums that up perfectly. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #30

correct! CTyankee Nov 2013 #32

... sibelian Nov 2013 #33

oh, I was responding to you PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #34

Excellent post..K&R haikugal Nov 2013 #52

Great post... prairierose Nov 2013 #56

Must there be a marketing/campaign meme? HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #18

How about "between a woman and her doctor"? Skidmore Nov 2013 #19

Even some pro-choice people consider abortion to be wrong. NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #20

Correction: Until abortion has the same legal status as any other health procedure PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #22

That wouldn't really change what I wrote. NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #26

we're discussing, not condemning. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #28

There will always be "soft supporters." NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #40

I still don't get how it's anybody else's business ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #27

So nobody else even gets to discuss it? NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #38

Honestly, no, you shouldn't have an opinion on healthcare choices of ANYONE. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #39

Fair enough. I'm out of here. NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #41

Awesome. Step aside, there's work to be done to restore women's rights. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #42

you would gain mire support Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #51

but as I say elsewhere here, women are "moral agents" and are capable of making "moral choice" on CTyankee Nov 2013 #31

Vasectomy means never having to say you're sorry. Safe, legal vasectomy Zorra Nov 2013 #21

Mine wasn't free... NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #23

Safe and Legal are matters of law... Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2013 #24

Just "none of anybody's" business ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #25

Another mistake you made: Abortion *IS* a form of birth control. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #35

How about safe, legal and available without restrictions...nt SidDithers Nov 2013 #36

afuckingmen. Canada's success is a role model to the world. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #37

How about nobody's business but the woman? giftedgirl77 Nov 2013 #43

how about "get lawmakers the hell out of doctors exam rooms"? Doctor_J Nov 2013 #44

What if a lawmaker proposes free access to condoms for all high school students, Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #47

I don't see what your post has to do with lawmakers interference in the doctor-patient Doctor_J Nov 2013 #48

Nothing. And that's precisely my point. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #49

You ignore the fact that many who oppose abortion rights also oppose other forms Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #45

your body your decision, not by bidness elehhhhna Nov 2013 #46

I prefer the phrase "Safe, legal and NOT MY DAMN BUSINESS". renie408 Nov 2013 #50

How about "Like other medical procedures"? ZombieHorde Nov 2013 #53

Yes, birth control would be so much easier treestar Nov 2013 #54

NO!!!! instead Safe, Legal and a Personal Choice! Drew Richards Nov 2013 #55

safe legal, and readily available to those who need it. bettyellen Nov 2013 #57

This is why I almost never post in threads about abortion. Brigid Nov 2013 #58

Do you support the sweeping restrictions that have been happening in every state? PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #59

It should be secondary to birth control. Otherwise we will see a rise in STI's. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #60

Safe, legal and none of your business any more than my appendectomy was. nt DevonRex Nov 2013 #61