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56. If only some Florida Dems would not have become traitors and voted for Bush

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Tue Dec 3, 2013, 04:26 PM

Dec 2013

we wouldn't be having this discussion, but steady on...cherry picking is easy to do.

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Sic semper Naderus. (A response to the recent pro-Nader posts) [View all] riqster Dec 2013 OP

I can't tell if all of DU is infested with shit-stirrers, really bored or really drunk... Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #1

That scab is there because the wound never healed. riqster Dec 2013 #5

Short of time travel, how do we "deal with it?" Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #7

Actually, we agree. riqster Dec 2013 #9

Actually, I think the best way to deal with it ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #44

If the Democratic Party gives us a liberal candidate to support ... Laelth Dec 2013 #71

Not sure about that. riqster Dec 2013 #79

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #94

Well put. riqster Dec 2013 #101

And THAT ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #111

I don't see it as having lost. riqster Dec 2013 #113

That's because ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #114

Which is why these threads are necessary. riqster Dec 2013 #115

Agreed ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #116

Absolutely. riqster Dec 2013 #118

But it's NOT ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #90

Americans under 30 have a more favorable opinion of socialism than of capitalism. Laelth Dec 2013 #93

They will figure that out ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #96

I think the current Party establishment has a strong incentive ... Laelth Dec 2013 #97

Politicians are (largely) two things ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #99

I agree with your assessment about the nature of politicians. Laelth Dec 2013 #100

1StrongBlackMan keeps talking about PRIMARIES and you keep ignoring that Jim Lane Dec 2013 #120

Admittedly, I ignore the argument that primaries are valid. Laelth Dec 2013 #121

Hmmmmm. If the facts don't support them, why do they fit? nt el_bryanto Dec 2013 #2

Probably because I am such a contumacious SOB. nt riqster Dec 2013 #6

Yah. He said it here: MineralMan Dec 2013 #3

A critique from October 2000. riqster Dec 2013 #8

You know the drill.... libodem Dec 2013 #4

Since Nader is running (sarcasm) nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #10

The reason it COULD be stolen was the margin. riqster Dec 2013 #12

Explain all those elderly Jews voting for Buchanan nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #14

Math dictates otherwise. riqster Dec 2013 #16

Yup, why you keep ignoring nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #18

The fact is, you cannot put everything you care about into a single post. riqster Dec 2013 #21

As I said, experts in political science and history I have spoken to nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #24

See post 21, where I did define it. riqster Dec 2013 #30

What part of it does not matter are you purposely missing nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #36

The part which you just reposted. riqster Dec 2013 #43

You defined nothing, and you know why? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #49

So, you're OK with helping Republicans defeat Democrats, riqster Dec 2013 #52

You read that as you will nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #75

Once again, you mistake omission with lack of concern. riqster Dec 2013 #81

I said, you need to learn how to read nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #85

Oh, I read it all right. I just disagree. riqster Dec 2013 #87

Since you are comparing an illegal act with a legal act nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #88

one glaring fact that is NEVER addressed G_j Dec 2013 #23

Oh absolutely nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #25

Got facts to support that claim? riqster Dec 2013 #28

for starters G_j Dec 2013 #35

That proves that the Caucus and the minority community were fucked over. riqster Dec 2013 #38

The Great Florida Ex-Con Game G_j Dec 2013 #41

Also a factor. In fact, Rick Scott is trying to do it again. riqster Dec 2013 #45

I don't see why G_j Dec 2013 #47

You forget this, though: nyquil_man Dec 2013 #42

Oh, no argument there. riqster Dec 2013 #46

I just don't have a whole lot of use for Nader as a candidate. nyquil_man Dec 2013 #50

yet throughout this thread, you fail to address the culpability of 200,000+ registered dems.. frylock Dec 2013 #92

Because you can't cover everything in a single post. riqster Dec 2013 #104

nader was the least of the issues leading up to that theft.. frylock Dec 2013 #119

The Democrats are and have been trying to address most of the issues that caused the 2000 theft Gothmog Dec 2013 #126

You are of course familiar with the report issued on that Sept 11 nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #130

Yes, Al Gore was the real winner of 2000 elections Gothmog Dec 2013 #132

+1 progressoid Dec 2013 #20

Katherine Harris KamaAina Dec 2013 #62

Are they related? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #77

I seriously doubt it KamaAina Dec 2013 #78

I doubt it too nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #80

I am compelled to agree with you. LanternWaste Dec 2013 #129

Good article Gothmog Dec 2013 #11

And let's not forget Iraq. Iraq would never have happened under Al Gore, but some fell for the... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #32

A great deal would be different Gothmog Dec 2013 #58

He and his supporters have blood on their hands. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #64

If the Democrats want the votes of the left it should trying to appeal to the left. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #13

This. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #15

Nader didn't just run FOR Liberal votes. riqster Dec 2013 #17

And, the Democrats who voted for Dubya far outnumbered the Nader voters. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #54

The point is, be honest. riqster Dec 2013 #57

Democrats accept support from Republicans every election. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #59

With the avowed intent of getting Bush elected. nt riqster Dec 2013 #61

And, that's why voters voted for him? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #63

Each of us is accountable for our own actions. riqster Dec 2013 #65

He's also responsible for letting the Democratic party know it has a left wing to contend with. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #67

A left wing of the party should be paid attention to. riqster Dec 2013 #105

You may be right...the party is still ignoring the left and running right. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #110

avowed intent would be nader saying "i'm doing this to get bush elected" frylock Dec 2013 #95

Read more of the source material. He said it. riqster Dec 2013 #103

I get real sick of people trying to rewrite history. CorrectOfCenter Dec 2013 #19

Is there evidence he's even running? nyquil_man Dec 2013 #22

Someone else who would do what Nader did. riqster Dec 2013 #27

When this Naderesque generic has a name, I'll worry. nyquil_man Dec 2013 #31

We'll probably see a repeat of this one: Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #34

People still cast ballots for Ralph? Arkana Dec 2013 #26

No, but his disciples pop up like dung heap mushrooms after a rain every cycle. riqster Dec 2013 #33

Am I the only one who doesn't read the Nader threads? Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #29

It's trolly, that kind of Nader-touting shit. Plus, the guy is pushing eighty. MADem Dec 2013 #37

LMAO! You're still compelled to evade the blame and makes excuses for Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #39

Another post that does not address the OP. riqster Dec 2013 #51

Sad and pathetic. Gore won the election as well, how'd that work out? Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #53

I am not prepared to accept the betrayal of Nader. riqster Dec 2013 #55

There was no betrayal, Nader is not a Democrat. The ubiquitous selective memory Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #66

+1, well put. Marr Dec 2013 #102

Substitute "Left" for "Democratic", if you prefer. riqster Dec 2013 #123

No, the Democratic Party fucked our shit up, by first failing to earn enough votes and then, Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #127

Uh-huh. riqster Dec 2013 #128

That's absolutely not what I said and you know it. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #134

If you support Nader's actions, my statement is a reasonable one. riqster Dec 2013 #135

HIs statement here is my answer to dilettantes who blithely call for destroying everything: freshwest Dec 2013 #40

Damn. This should be an OP. riqster Dec 2013 #48

You're welcome to steal any or all of it. The ideas and results matter, not sources or labels, IMO. freshwest Dec 2013 #72

Do you blog? riqster Dec 2013 #74

I've been asked to, but have no interest in learning another format and need to do other things. freshwest Dec 2013 #84

Billy Gibbons said something similar. riqster Dec 2013 #86

If only some Florida Dems would not have become traitors and voted for Bush Rex Dec 2013 #56

Ah yes, Le Taz Hot Dec 2013 #60

And Nader had a vested interest in the Rethugs being elected, pnwmom Dec 2013 #68

I can't believe there are DUers who are still defending Nader. WTF?? Avalux Dec 2013 #69

Great post. sagat Dec 2013 #70

And one whose TOS calls for electing DEMS. riqster Dec 2013 #73

bluntandcranky is giving The People's View a run for its money whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #76

Really? There is something worse than The Peoples Spew? Rex Dec 2013 #82

Nope, all Nader did was pretend to be a liberal while he helped Bush steal elections. riqster Dec 2013 #122

You got your 'two minutes of hate' out of this thread. Rex Dec 2013 #124

I certainly got a lot of hate from the Nader contingent. riqster Dec 2013 #125

At least I know how to use an apostrophe. riqster Dec 2013 #83

you should be real proud frylock Dec 2013 #98

About Nader (and the Green Party in general), Jamaal510 Dec 2013 #89

I'm thinking the second option for some, the first for all too many. nt riqster Dec 2013 #108

Nader is as old as the crust on Rush Limbaugh's underwear. RBInMaine Dec 2013 #91

Both are toxic, even in small doses. nt riqster Dec 2013 #109

almost 40,000 people voted for someone other than bush, gore or nader in fl. gore lost by 154 KG Dec 2013 #106

But it makes for a good narrative in black and white. Celefin Dec 2013 #117

Fuck Nadir! BlueToTheBone Dec 2013 #107

I am not a fan of Nader. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #112

You want "blunt and cranky?" 1000words Dec 2013 #131

That is your right. riqster Dec 2013 #133