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rrneck

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136. It's what species do.

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 09:52 PM

Dec 2013

That's just how it works. People are no different. Both parents contribute DNA to the offspring, and they select mates based on the need for the viability of the species. If we disregard our own participation in the evolutionary process where are we? I'm not willing to concede that people select mates because of some star crossed destiny. But given our intellectual capacity and the way we use it for our own survival, it makes sense that things like romance and love are the result of the same cognitive development that makes faster than sound flight possible. And a scientific explanation doesn't make either accomplishment any less special.

Now I don't know, or care, what some MRA dude said about it. People have been using science to push agendas since there was science - or agendas. Just because some asshole misinterpreted the science doesn't make it wrong.

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"Women are life support systems for pussy." [View all] LWolf Dec 2013 OP

I think anyone who reads this gaspee Dec 2013 #1

Indeed... i agree completely with gaspee's comment. +1 hlthe2b Dec 2013 #6

I was struck, LWolf Dec 2013 #55

More like they don't want to get it. Warpy Dec 2013 #105

Exactly! k&r Little Star Dec 2013 #2

Very well said. Thank you. nt LumosMaxima Dec 2013 #3

Trashing thread... Iggo Dec 2013 #4

too bad, you are missing a good OP. nt boston bean Dec 2013 #5

I didn't miss it. Iggo Dec 2013 #12

I can understand. Thanks for letting me know. boston bean Dec 2013 #13

I suppose I didn't need to announce it, though. Iggo Dec 2013 #47

SO TRUE XemaSab Dec 2013 #7

Very well said. Thanks for your perspective. PeaceNikki Dec 2013 #8

I have stayed out of the discussions on this subject up until now. narnian60 Dec 2013 #9

Well, that's a new one to me quinnox Dec 2013 #10

I've heard it, and worse than that. nt rrneck Dec 2013 #15

Me too! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2013 #20

heard it the other way as well, also guys referred to as the wallet etc loli phabay Dec 2013 #25

MRA bingo--take any discussion about women's experiences and concerns and try geek tragedy Dec 2013 #26

wow, kinda like a godwin there. or do you deny that people refer to each other and themselves loli phabay Dec 2013 #29

I know that your post was inevitable. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #33

sorry not even listening to you, no point, was talking to the op loli phabay Dec 2013 #35

Why are listening and learning only things that men are supposed to do? n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #48

Certainly, when men begin a discussion of their experiences and the issues geek tragedy Dec 2013 #51

They're more likely to campaign to eliminate the forum in which that discussion is taking place. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #53

Good thing sexist jackholes never explicitly target the women in HoF for hate and abuse. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #61

Democracy. Ain't it grand? nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #63

Give my regards to The Lord of the Flies. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #67

That was actually funny, for a change. xulamaude Dec 2013 #68

Rather than discussing their experiences, they want to shut down women discussing theirs? uppityperson Dec 2013 #70

No, I'm saying that a major topic of discussion in HoF is how to shut down TMG. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #79

cool, why don't you do a PSA to fight against it? bettyellen Dec 2013 #49

no need to, it does not bother me but feel free if you feel you need to be fair. loli phabay Dec 2013 #84

oh, just pretending it mattered for LOLz, got it! bettyellen Dec 2013 #93

no, just stating that people use all sorts of language to describe each other. but no problem loli phabay Dec 2013 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author bettyellen Dec 2013 #52

both sides do it Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #95

especially when it doesn't matter to you- cry about it!!! yeah, that's honest. bettyellen Dec 2013 #100

yup, an example is my wife and i refer to each other in less than respectful terms at times loli phabay Dec 2013 #125

but out in society we do distinguish between creep and c*nt, asshole and ni**er, right…. bettyellen Dec 2013 #127

no its on topic, as in relation to the op. people of all genders say similar stuff about each other loli phabay Dec 2013 #129

I applaud you for the post. boston bean Dec 2013 #11

I've had to grow a thick skin LWolf Dec 2013 #57

There is a school of thought rrneck Dec 2013 #14

this is beyond offensive in the context of the OP. boston bean Dec 2013 #17

Actually, no. rrneck Dec 2013 #18

She can read just fine, as can I, and yes you did agree with the OP's geek tragedy Dec 2013 #27

Yep, I made a mistake. rrneck Dec 2013 #78

I'm familiar with the pseudoscience known as evo psych. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #81

So why do you think rrneck Dec 2013 #83

because humans make them watch porn of course. loli phabay Dec 2013 #86

LOL! Yep, that must be it. nt rrneck Dec 2013 #87

because they would go extinct if they didn't. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #88

Are you able to converse rrneck Dec 2013 #89

What I would like to know is what does this have to do with boston bean Dec 2013 #91

So you don't have an alternate theory. rrneck Dec 2013 #94

My theory is that some people would like to blame their DNA for boston bean Dec 2013 #97

So you still got nothing. rrneck Dec 2013 #101

Please affirm for yourself that you are promoting a theory that DNA is responsible for what this man boston bean Dec 2013 #106

So, speaking as a woman rrneck Dec 2013 #112

I dunno. How many billion people from all geek tragedy Dec 2013 #117

Not only do you not know rrneck Dec 2013 #118

You got me. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #119

You poor thing. rrneck Dec 2013 #122

Yeah, your towering intellect intimidated geek tragedy Dec 2013 #126

It sounds like we are members rrneck Dec 2013 #128

LOL. boston bean Dec 2013 #132

Happy holidays to you too BB. rrneck Dec 2013 #133

. boston bean Dec 2013 #135

Hey if you want to say it's in mens DNA to treat women like shit, well, that is on you. boston bean Dec 2013 #85

Hey, that's not what I'm saying in the least. rrneck Dec 2013 #90

I really can't because I don't believe DNA boston bean Dec 2013 #92

Well, I could repost it rrneck Dec 2013 #98

DNA DNA DNA ok, you believe DNA is responsible for all societal ills. boston bean Dec 2013 #108

Thank you for telling me what I believe rrneck Dec 2013 #113

I'm going on what you post. Not sure what else I'm to do. boston bean Dec 2013 #120

Actually, you're ignoring everything I write. rrneck Dec 2013 #124

I'm going to jump in here and ask xulamaude Dec 2013 #130

Absolutely. rrneck Dec 2013 #131

Well done. But xulamaude Dec 2013 #134

It's what species do. rrneck Dec 2013 #136

I do know (but don't care much for) what "some MRA dude xulamaude Dec 2013 #138

When it comes to critter skills rrneck Dec 2013 #139

Why is the listener's "background, culture and experience"... lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #16

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #21

I'd say more analagous to "harpy" and "shrew". n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #42

Because people use those words all the time, right? Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #45

They're not used here, that's for certain. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #46

I'm very far from "incoherent", nor am I "spluttering". Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #56

+1 xulamaude Dec 2013 #64

Am I required to accept the worst possible premise among potential readers? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #65

Except when the discussion is about subjects like this, then the history of the relevant parties... Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #71

He will tell you that sexisdoesn't exist for woman and of course he doesn't argue that about racism. boston bean Dec 2013 #75

Thank you. I did a good job picking a spokesperson. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #80

What you're describing is not a rational discussion, you're describing an anecdotal pissing match. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #77

No, I'm describing a rational discussion. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #82

You misunderstood. Worked pretty hard at it too. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #96

Except for you it does seem to be the issue. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #99

Unlike women not being able to own property, were property of their husbands boston bean Dec 2013 #102

"Were", "Was" lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #110

"Incivility comes from insisting on something else." boston bean Dec 2013 #137

So "personhood" laws and related misogynist bullshit were "repealed 50-200 years" ago? nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #140

Oh Jesus, if you're going to claim the title of The Reasonable Man geek tragedy Dec 2013 #32

Maybe. I did a google search for "she is a creep" and found quite a few hits. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #50

men get called assholes more often than women too, doesn't make "asshole" a gendered geek tragedy Dec 2013 #54

Another nice example of the conflation xulamaude Dec 2013 #37

Because it's part of reality. LWolf Dec 2013 #60

I apologize for the inappropriate use of "you". lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #69

The one I heard was whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #19

my mom is approaching 80 (which dad just turned) hfojvt Dec 2013 #22

I disagree with your first part. LWolf Dec 2013 #72

In my household it was kinda the opposite hfojvt Dec 2013 #109

Change happens gradually. LWolf Dec 2013 #142

a spelling quirk hfojvt Dec 2013 #146

Oh, yum. LWolf Dec 2013 #147

K&R. nt DLevine Dec 2013 #23

K&R G_j Dec 2013 #24

I think we should all recognize G_j Dec 2013 #28

Thank you. LWolf Dec 2013 #74

Thank you! City Lights Dec 2013 #30

K&R grntuscarora Dec 2013 #31

Nothing more need be said on the topic mcar Dec 2013 #34

K & R xulamaude Dec 2013 #36

I've also seen that phrase on Jamaal510 Dec 2013 #38

k&r Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #39

Men and women look at each other with desire. How shocking. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #40

Of course they do, but what is being discussed is boston bean Dec 2013 #73

Boom! Squinch Dec 2013 #41

Outstanding. n/t Smarmie Doofus Dec 2013 #43

Lots of people end up in bad relationships davidn3600 Dec 2013 #44

+1 well said. janlyn Dec 2013 #103

The problem can be, on either side, that you get tired of looking for the good people mythology Dec 2013 #116

the Bible says women come from Adam's rib, that's not as disgusting and ugly... Kurovski Dec 2013 #58

Your words really hit home. bitchkitty Dec 2013 #59

I have this to say.... mike_c Dec 2013 #62

I wonder if the people commenting gaspee Dec 2013 #66

Yep. You said that correct. Little Star Dec 2013 #104

Oh yeah they do. "There are poor white people geek tragedy Dec 2013 #121

Of course. Silent3 Dec 2013 #76

Ha ha, now that is indisputable! quinnox Dec 2013 #107

Excellent: Zenlitened Dec 2013 #111

Sadly, I have to agree with you that some truly just don't get it. Squinch Dec 2013 #141

I appreciate your post Beringia Dec 2013 #114

Each marriage was different. LWolf Dec 2013 #143

Thanks for the reply Beringia Dec 2013 #144

Oh, yes, I've been dressing down for a long time, Blue_In_AK Dec 2013 #115

God I miss the old DU where we had actual discussions. OffWithTheirHeads Dec 2013 #145

Laughed at it long ago when first heard as a joke. maced666 Dec 2013 #148

I've heard the converse statement too... jimlup Dec 2013 #149