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In reply to the discussion: ODD: “If you’re outraged, you must be mentally ill.” [View all]MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)22. I don't follow DSM data really, but was interested...
In order to be anti-social as an infant, or pre-adult, it would have to be compared to norms of THAT society, mainly "the home environment, and some school and play, where other adults are still responsible for that norm.
I'd say the norms have changed since 1980, when the entire homeless environment got tweaked a la Reagan et al
Sounds like they'll need a new panel of "experts" to re-evaluate the "disorder".
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Given the conditions of contemporary society, how can one claim the "normal" person is really sane?
hobbit709
Dec 2013
#1
This is not true. Few, very few write prescriptions w/o some talk and a referral.
nolabear
Dec 2013
#77
I know. I'm a psychoanalyst. Getting coverage for effective talk therapy is nearly impossible.
nolabear
Dec 2013
#83
You're welcome. Lots of good folks leave the business because it's been made so hard.
nolabear
Dec 2013
#88
Well, let's see you sit back, watch a terrified, hysterical, suicidal patient and explain that.
nolabear
Dec 2013
#75
Yes, ODD has been around since DSM-III (1980), and Yes it's a disorder of childhood.
Jackpine Radical
Dec 2013
#15
Be careful how otten you point that out. The same article mentions "arrogance, narcissism" too.n/t
jtuck004
Dec 2013
#33
It was from the DSM-IV, as stated. And it exists in the DSM-V, and has been changed. n/t
jtuck004
Dec 2013
#42
I've been around kids labeled ODD and they were extreme... not just kids in need of
1monster
Dec 2013
#57
I bet the folks fuming about the black guy in THEIR White House are all aflutter over this.
Spitfire of ATJ
Dec 2013
#65
They probably are, because believing in this is on a par with believing in birtherism.
Crunchy Frog
Dec 2013
#69
The funniest thing is a Moran claiming to be a Rebel as they represent The Establishment.
Spitfire of ATJ
Dec 2013
#73
Oh Honey, this Dx has been around forever. And it's a real disorder, though becoming obsolete.
nolabear
Dec 2013
#74
No, but it's a completely misinformed claim. Numerous debunkings in the thread.
nolabear
Dec 2013
#80
Perfect way to imprison people who do not agree with society or the government.
Lint Head
Dec 2013
#82
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
1000words
Dec 2013
#86