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Mc Mike

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131. Terry Gilliam's "Brazil"

Reply to woo me with science (Reply #95)

Fri Mar 16, 2012, 12:44 PM

Mar 2012

I like Harry Tuttle's quote in the movie: "I got into this game for the action, the excitement. Go anywhere, travel light, get in, get out, wherever there's trouble, a man alone. Now they got the whole country sectioned off. This whole system of yours could be on fire, and I couldn't even turn on a kitchen tap without filing a 27b-6."

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So they're planning a system of toll plazas on our nation's highways. [View all] woo me with science Mar 2012 OP

May be like the ones in Denver--where you don't stop (and you may well NOT know you've incurred $$) hlthe2b Mar 2012 #1

So we restrict the movements of poor people. woo me with science Mar 2012 #23

goddamn those toll operators. uncle ray Mar 2012 #61

Actuallyfor someone not from the area... they are not... hlthe2b Mar 2012 #66

The TSA. Coming soon to a toll booth near you. Already in Tennessee: think Mar 2012 #2

+1 Exactly. And/or facial recognition technology. woo me with science Mar 2012 #6

Lovely. Fawke Em Mar 2012 #15

As if we didn't know this would happen. But I remember being told we were 'paranoid' by sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #115

It's a ProSense Mar 2012 #3

An expansion of toll roads? I'd call that a conspiracy. Zalatix Mar 2012 #9

Call it ProSense Mar 2012 #11

Trying to characterize it as NOT a corporate conspiracy is beyond clueless. Zalatix Mar 2012 #21

It's absolutely ProSense Mar 2012 #24

Wow, just... wow. Zalatix Mar 2012 #26

Oh ProSense Mar 2012 #27

This is about mass privatization and increasing corporate profits. Simple as that. Zalatix Mar 2012 #32

Again ProSense Mar 2012 #33

And again. It is about mass privatization and increasing corporate profits. Zalatix Mar 2012 #35

Point ProSense Mar 2012 #37

Who do you think is going to manage this toll network? Zalatix Mar 2012 #40

You would think we would know this song by now, woo me with science Mar 2012 #44

Well said. Wish I had thought of it that way. n/t Zalatix Mar 2012 #46

Instead of ProSense Mar 2012 #47

Massive. Corporate. Giveaway. Do you get it yet? Zalatix Mar 2012 #57

If that bothers you, wait till you see this... Major Nikon Mar 2012 #77

Funny, ha hah! Zalatix Mar 2012 #79

Grow up. nt sudopod Mar 2012 #62

Are you ProSense Mar 2012 #63

Because repeating the word "bullshit" three times is childish? sudopod Mar 2012 #68

What ProSense Mar 2012 #70

Wow, your arguments are incredibly myopic. Zalatix Mar 2012 #71

That's ProSense Mar 2012 #74

Fact free? You're the one arguing that this isn't a big corporate giveaway. Zalatix Mar 2012 #75

Because the privatization of Indiana's roads is a small-scale representation? sudopod Mar 2012 #73

Old enough ProSense Mar 2012 #80

It's not a proposal, or even a bill. In Indiana, it's the law. sudopod Mar 2012 #81

It's ProSense Mar 2012 #85

Denial is not a river in Egypt. Zalatix Mar 2012 #86

In this case, willful denial. woo me with science Mar 2012 #96

Lay it out for me. Why isn't it a valid comparison? nt sudopod Mar 2012 #87

It's ridiculous because you say so.. girl gone mad Mar 2012 #109

Where's the conspiracy theory? You have not answered the question 'who is going sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #117

You apparently don't understand the whole premise of toll highways. TheWraith Mar 2012 #30

There are but three words for this bill: massive. corporate. giveaway. Zalatix Mar 2012 #34

Privatize Everything is the motto - TBF Mar 2012 #50

don't we already have some privatized toll roads? newspeak Mar 2012 #56

The government doesn't need to collect tolls to maintain highways. girl gone mad Mar 2012 #110

So you believe all roads should be free... brooklynite Mar 2012 #52

We already have existing means to fund the road system. Zalatix Mar 2012 #58

Exactly. This is regressive, and adds an entire layer of corporate involvement woo me with science Mar 2012 #97

Was there some reason why you didn't just post a link rather than make it necessary sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #116

A "conspiracy" to repair highways? Yeah, that's not at all paranoid. TheWraith Mar 2012 #12

You think this will repair the highways? Zalatix Mar 2012 #22

So you don't think HSA will use the system zipplewrath Mar 2012 #17

Do you ProSense Mar 2012 #18

It's not a conspiracy zipplewrath Mar 2012 #25

That's exactly what it is: a conspiracy theory. TheWraith Mar 2012 #28

It is not a conspiracy theory, it's reality. Zalatix Mar 2012 #39

Look around you. Nobody is buying your argument except TheWraith. Zalatix Mar 2012 #43

It's an extrapolation zipplewrath Mar 2012 #51

Yup. It is hardly conspiracy to anticipate the behavior of Homeland Security, woo me with science Mar 2012 #55

Who is going to profit from this? Who will be collecting the tolls? What about poor people sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #118

Well it looks like the Toll Amendment has been withdrawn, see downthread. You can stop sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #121

This message was self-deleted by its author Mc Mike Mar 2012 #130

The interstate system was supposed to be FREE from tolls, paid by gas tax. Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #122

+100000 Thank you for the important reminder. woo me with science Mar 2012 #126

More privatization LuvNewcastle Mar 2012 #4

This is a bipartisan bill. It is not only right wingers pushing it. woo me with science Mar 2012 #7

How about The Democrats Make the Rich pay their share in Taxes fascisthunter Mar 2012 #5

Well, that would be the logical solution, wouldn't it? woo me with science Mar 2012 #8

I think you rub tomatoes in your hair under the full moon. TheWraith Mar 2012 #13

I think you like to attack people who don't agree with you. Zalatix Mar 2012 #29

Absurd statements deserve to be called absurd. TheWraith Mar 2012 #38

Imaginary privatization? Yup, your argument is definitely clueless. Zalatix Mar 2012 #41

I think you are correct. nt. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2012 #42

You see, hyperbolic posts like this are why no one takes you seriously. nt sudopod Mar 2012 #64

Democrats need to start acting like Democrats and not Republican light think Mar 2012 #10

The Centrist Dems want what a lot of Republicans Want fascisthunter Mar 2012 #14

it's called the "new democrats" newspeak Mar 2012 #59

We won't have enough real Democrats until woo me with science Mar 2012 #16

Maybe if they would just use the money nykym Mar 2012 #19

And gasoline taxes, they get tons of money from that. Zalatix Mar 2012 #45

The goal is to make all "interstates" owned privately. Avalux Mar 2012 #20

Eisenhower is spinning in his grave aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2012 #31

No kidding. woo me with science Mar 2012 #100

In a nutshell. woo me with science Mar 2012 #49

And you can't POSSIBLY close a roadway without a toll plaza, right? brooklynite Mar 2012 #53

But you can close a highway with a toll plaza Zalatix Mar 2012 #60

"...that will add $1,000 to a family budget just to get to work.” woo me with science Mar 2012 #69

It's hard to imagine a more regressive tax. sudopod Mar 2012 #127

They'll take the interstates private and sell them to China. Ganja Ninja Mar 2012 #78

Well, Your Link Says That the Toll Plaza Proposal On the Road Mar 2012 #36

Wait just a second here. Zalatix Mar 2012 #65

+ 1 to all your posts here, Zal. Mc Mike Mar 2012 #92

+10000 nt woo me with science Mar 2012 #95

Terry Gilliam's "Brazil" Mc Mike Mar 2012 #131

Are Credit Cards a Government Plot? On the Road Mar 2012 #113

No, because I can get around those. Zalatix Mar 2012 #114

The conspiracy bs being thrown around are embarassing SpartanDem Mar 2012 #48

I don't see it as a "conspiracy" zipplewrath Mar 2012 #67

That's ProSense Mar 2012 #72

no no donkey unionworks Mar 2012 #76

Renaming things is a GOP strategy zipplewrath Mar 2012 #82

SOCIALIST! nt sudopod Mar 2012 #83

And your point unionworks Mar 2012 #84

(Russian accent) Is joke! :D nt sudopod Mar 2012 #88

Allow me... unionworks Mar 2012 #90

.... woo me with science Mar 2012 #99

first we steal atomic plans unionworks Mar 2012 #103

Yeah ProSense Mar 2012 #89

All power is abused zipplewrath Mar 2012 #102

Especially when government policy is bought by corporations. woo me with science Mar 2012 #105

Everything must be smeared as "conspiracy" until it happens. woo me with science Mar 2012 #98

watch out for the black helicopters! dionysus Mar 2012 #54

Why are you worried about black helicopters? No one else is. sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #119

worried? i'm laughing at whack ass conspiracy woo.... dionysus Mar 2012 #123

I wouldn't laugh too hard if I were you. Occulus Mar 2012 #129

I'm not too worried about being tracked by this system. JoeyT Mar 2012 #91

It's more about toll booth areas being used as TSA checkpoints: think Mar 2012 #93

Yup. And it's also about a huge corporate giveaway, woo me with science Mar 2012 #94

Biggest issue I have w/ toll roads is safety Strelnikov_ Mar 2012 #101

Hey ProSense Mar 2012 #104

It passed, but the Tolling Amendment is off the table for now. So, I guess the OP was sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #124

Just keeping this up top so there is context for the others. nt woo me with science Mar 2012 #106

Dallas Tollway Authority have already been training its employees at the LanternWaste Mar 2012 #107

Kick woo me with science Mar 2012 #108

Apparently the toll amendment was withdrawn Oilwellian Mar 2012 #111

Oh, that's funny. And there are people in this thread defending it. sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #120

It sure ain't the same red/blue game it used to be. woo me with science Mar 2012 #128

This message was self-deleted by its author Oilwellian Mar 2012 #112

California made border guards because of the medfly scare Taverner Mar 2012 #125

There is always a "good reason." woo me with science Mar 2012 #132