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136. Why does he have to come up with such proposals? Are you suggesting that the

Tue Jan 28, 2014, 06:07 PM

Jan 2014

WH cant do it? Is that a rationalization for our dying middle class? What is the President working on? The TPP? Now that will surely fix things.

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So... cuts to unemployment aid and food stamps [View all] MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 OP

You think tonight is bad legcramp Jan 2014 #1

Outright Savagery 90-percent Jan 2014 #2

+1 n/t Alkene Jan 2014 #73

Stop pretending it's just Republicans. woo me with science Jan 2014 #118

They should borrow money from their parents to go to Business School Jackpine Radical Jan 2014 #124

All they have to do is ask their parents for a loan! AAO Jan 2014 #165

Blame goes on both parties. 840high Jan 2014 #172

Please propose your alternative that the House would actually pass. jeff47 Jan 2014 #3

"I welcome their hatred" MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #4

So you want food stamps to be $0 for the next year. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2014 #7

We've tried it your way for 30 years MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #8

Oh, it has been a complete disaster. jeff47 Jan 2014 #11

We elect tough Liberals MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #12

Actually, yes one does negotiate with hostage takers, unless you want dead hostages jeff47 Jan 2014 #13

What was the outcome when Republicans shut down the government last year MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #15

Game, set, match. n/t ljm2002 Jan 2014 #37

Not at all. See: Unemployment extension. jeff47 Jan 2014 #88

I agree that was total pwnage! Rex Jan 2014 #140

So why did Elizabeth Warren vote for the compromise bill Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #39

I hear... randome Jan 2014 #83

What was the outcome when Republicans refused to extend unemployment? jeff47 Jan 2014 #87

At least with your way, Jakes Progress Jan 2014 #131

Yeah, because they didn't try to separate the food stamps part from the agricultural subsidies. jeff47 Jan 2014 #135

Sigh. Jakes Progress Jan 2014 #202

What an incredibly dumb response. jeff47 Jan 2014 #203

+1 n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #123

"if people bothered to show up" JDPriestly Jan 2014 #130

20% turnout in primaries is "if people bothered to show up" territory. jeff47 Jan 2014 #134

When we Primary an Incumbent, We Usually Lose the Seat AndyTiedye Jan 2014 #178

And? jeff47 Jan 2014 #181

Every Loss makes us Weaker. Every Loss Forces Our Side to Compromise Even More AndyTiedye Jan 2014 #208

Yeah, just like every loss pushed the Republicans left. jeff47 Jan 2014 #209

Both Parties Move Right Every Time they Lose AndyTiedye Jan 2014 #211

+1 El_Johns Jan 2014 #183

Half Right AndyTiedye Jan 2014 #179

There's a reason I included that parenthetical statement. jeff47 Jan 2014 #188

republicans control the house , are you saying some of them were tough liberals ? JI7 Jan 2014 #14

Bulllllllllllllshit! "We" just sit around and bitch and spout winger memes...sounds like straight uponit7771 Jan 2014 #46

BINGO! Rex Jan 2014 #141

The Tea Party is doing it your way right now. Arkana Jan 2014 #204

And executive order can solve that problem. Bush sure had no problem using it. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #17

An executive order to appropriate funds for food stamps and unemployment? Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #19

Tell it to Obama: sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #23

You are saying he should disregard the constitution? What constitutionally permissable kelly1mm Jan 2014 #47

No, HE is saying it. I am saying 'don't just say it, sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #49

Yes, I am saying he is just threatening. He can do small things alone, but nothing kelly1mm Jan 2014 #51

He will do what he legally can do Progressive dog Jan 2014 #65

Obama cannot appropriate funds, only Congress can do that....... Swede Atlanta Jan 2014 #66

He can declare an emergency just as if it was a NATURAL disaster rather than a manmade sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #90

He still can't appropriate funds, even for an actual natural disaster. jeff47 Jan 2014 #95

Well, I used to think they couldn't overturn the Constitution but now I know better. They sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #104

If you want to use that route, then you have to believe the NSA is fine. jeff47 Jan 2014 #105

I haven't seen you complain about the NSA. Maybe I'm mistaken but airc, you have been a sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #107

Well, you could bother to read my other reply to you in this thread - post 100. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2014 #108

The man ordered American citizens to be executed without due process, Maedhros Jan 2014 #114

My exact thought. Murder ok. Food for the needy? No can do, it's unconstitutional! GoneFishin Jan 2014 #185

I had to laugh EastHarlemGayDude Jan 2014 #117

+1 CrispyQ Jan 2014 #133

The Constitution only matters when it presents an obstacle to helping the people TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #153

Some things are yes or no, no in between . It is either unconstitutional or not. It is not kelly1mm Jan 2014 #168

So where do extrajudicial executions of american citizens fall? GoneFishin Jan 2014 #190

Granted, my point remains the same. Perhaps you have some flexibility in areas I'm less quick to TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #197

They know ... It's a common winger meme to I absolve congress of blame for uponit7771 Jan 2014 #53

He can declare an emergency. If they can overturn the Constitution to spy on the American sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #98

"Haven't you argued also for the abandonment of the rule of law?" Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #115

Your proposal is utterly unconstitutional. jeff47 Jan 2014 #89

No my proposal, the President's proposal. Did you say 'Unconstitutional'?? sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #96

You can't claim the Constitution is sacrosanct in the NSA case jeff47 Jan 2014 #100

Looks like he's going to do it. The phone meta program has now been declared unconstitutional so sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #158

Heres one......The house will not pass it...... Hotler Jan 2014 #64

Why does he have to come up with such proposals? Are you suggesting that the rhett o rick Jan 2014 #136

If you believe it's possible to pass a better bill jeff47 Jan 2014 #137

I am not convinced that the WH is working very hard to save American jobs. In fact the TPP rhett o rick Jan 2014 #144

When the people finally revolt, it will be stealth, not just riots, that will loudsue Jan 2014 #5

That's why it's so important to GOTV 2014 Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #6

And an FDR like the Dem Congress had. nt MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #9

There is no Presidential election in 2014 Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #10

Only wingers on mixed boards have been claiming Obama has been acting outiside of uponit7771 Jan 2014 #44

Well we had one for the first two years. zeemike Jan 2014 #16

The numbers Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #21

So many excuses. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #26

Gish gallop. nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #28

Well at least that wasn't another excuse! sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #38

Bullshit. nt ljm2002 Jan 2014 #40

Exactly. nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #41

SOP for that poster...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #76

The only opinion you have, Sid, is you don't like Manny. We get it. We just don't care. Go watch.... marble falls Jan 2014 #93

Oooh, you've cut me to the quick... SidDithers Jan 2014 #106

Maybe he just doesn't like the things Manny says.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #109

Likely, but in this case it seems purely personal. marble falls Jan 2014 #166

Fdr had an 83% congress...Obama had nowhere close to that! winger uponit7771 Jan 2014 #45

Republicans were in the minority in Congress, the House and the WH. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #48

Obama never ever had a controlling majority of progressives in congress like fdr had uponit7771 Jan 2014 #50

Republicans don't have a controlling majority in the Senate. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #52

They don't need it either...do you understand how congress works? uponit7771 Jan 2014 #54

BINGO! There's that truth stuff again... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #58

No, she doesn't. jeff47 Jan 2014 #91

I see, it's just a common Obama = dictator meme that allows conservatives to abslolve themseles from uponit7771 Jan 2014 #113

Seems to describe your position very well too. You flake on the side of power though. TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #157

so much truth you just refuse to absorb it is all... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #57

Very nice rebuttal, but you forgot their most prevalent excuse. A Simple Game Jan 2014 #72

What liberals didn't do in 2010 jeff47 Jan 2014 #97

So it's my job to bring a friend to the polls? How about the candidate gives the A Simple Game Jan 2014 #112

So you see no difference between starvation and not starvation. jeff47 Jan 2014 #128

Poor analogy. I see no difference between eating crap and eating food that tastes like crap. A Simple Game Jan 2014 #167

Sure, you have food in your pantry. jeff47 Jan 2014 #184

I never scream there is "no liberal on the ballot" because there usually is. A Simple Game Jan 2014 #195

Nice RWing meme that has been debunked. Rex Jan 2014 #143

Nope. It actually was the left-leaning moderates who didn't turn out. jeff47 Jan 2014 #186

Left-leaning moderates stayed home because they realized they'd voted for another Republican Doctor_J Jan 2014 #173

So your argument is left-leaning moderates are so radical they were upset by a moderate. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2014 #182

In 2010, We Got Outspent up to 4:1 (possibly much more) Because of Citizens United AndyTiedye Jan 2014 #206

This is winger lie that is false on its face uponit7771 Jan 2014 #43

We need an FDR in the WH like that Congress had back then. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #18

Manny said the exact same thing. Thanks. Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #20

Why are you being such a jerk? HangOnKids Jan 2014 #24

It's like a parrot Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #25

You are not clever or cute HangOnKids Jan 2014 #27

I'm not trying to be clever or cute Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #30

Thank GAWD you aren't trying HangOnKids Jan 2014 #32

You can think whatever you want Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #34

... SidDithers Jan 2014 #77

Wrong, it's a case of 'Great Minds Think Alike'! sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #29

You didn't see his reply to me? Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #31

Like I said 'great minds think alike'. How often have I said 'we need an FDR or an LBJ sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #33

even FREAKING FDR himself couldn't do much with this Congress... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #61

Exactly! ProSense Jan 2014 #84

Did FDR have a Teaparty wing of the Republicans to deal with? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #62

FDR averaged one veto per week MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #63

Maybe Obama ProSense Jan 2014 #92

That's an incredibly useful statistic since Congress won't pass anything. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2014 #94

Its as if they live in an alternate universe.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #111

No shit. nt Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #198

What has the Congress passed for him To Veto? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #110

. ProSense Jan 2014 #160

I have to agree ProSense... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #162

also the democratic congress that fdr had were mostly southern right wingers Doctor_J Jan 2014 #189

And very soon Woo Me will show up with his requisite K&R. tridim Jan 2014 #67

I've seen this show a time or two. Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #199

It hijacks the thread. djean111 Jan 2014 #82

My intention was not to hijack the thread Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #116

That could pretty much be a reply Union Scribe Jan 2014 #163

No what we NEED is that Congress to support the one we have... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #59

You mean they should go along with TPP, KeystoneXL, school corporatization, and "deficit reduction"? Doctor_J Jan 2014 #174

No I mean go along with raising the minimum wage...ending the pay gender gap... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #177

Reagan managed to change the face of the US (for the worse) with a R minority. El_Johns Jan 2014 #55

When a presidents agenda mattered and congress wanted gov to work uponit7771 Jan 2014 #56

More like: Congress gets what it wants done El_Johns Jan 2014 #102

Now, that's the truth. Laelth Jan 2014 #127

Yes, it is. And strange how so many seem to have forgotten that little fact. El_Johns Jan 2014 #180

When are we gonna admit we are fucked? DocMac Jan 2014 #22

They are admitting to being fucked. That's why they are pushing for Hillary. L0oniX Jan 2014 #101

The Long Con BlueLuna743 Jan 2014 #35

"This is not reasonable compromise. It is barbary."... ljm2002 Jan 2014 #36

K&R DeSwiss Jan 2014 #42

i give up on democrats MFM008 Jan 2014 #60

One party, two faces. woo me with science Jan 2014 #120

No truer words. jsr Jan 2014 #68

we need to compromise and enact republican policies frwrfpos Jan 2014 #69

"The Democratic-controlled Senate had passed a bill with $400 million in annual food stamp cuts." ProSense Jan 2014 #70

Cuts also for farmers too in the farm bill JCMach1 Jan 2014 #71

I hope the son's of bitches choke on that fucking wine. lonestarnot Jan 2014 #74

Here: ProSense Jan 2014 #75

I think it is a real fucking stretch to say Obama would be liberal if the Dems controlled Congress. djean111 Jan 2014 #78

No Bi-Partisanship here fredamae Jan 2014 #79

The 1%'ers, wall street and big business workinclasszero Jan 2014 #80

K&R! It's sick savagery! Enthusiast Jan 2014 #81

"Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime." Aristotle handmade34 Jan 2014 #85

MannyGoldstein Diclotican Jan 2014 #86

A lot of us agree entirely with you. Jackpine Radical Jan 2014 #126

Jackpine Radical Diclotican Jan 2014 #196

Elect Clinton ...problem solved. L0oniX Jan 2014 #99

Cacerolazo? I've got my stock pot and my wooden spoon Taitertots Jan 2014 #103

K&R Corruption, cronyism, criminality, and savagery. woo me with science Jan 2014 #119

Cut the corporate profits tax to 21-percent. Octafish Jan 2014 #121

k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Jan 2014 #122

And the beat goes on. Progressives Brace For Disappointment On Trade Policy. totodeinhere Jan 2014 #125

Recently From Robert Reich: abelenkpe Jan 2014 #129

I wonder if the apologists here know anyone Jakes Progress Jan 2014 #132

I seriously doubt it. jsr Jan 2014 #205

kick and recc warrprayer Jan 2014 #138

It is funny Manny, you post on this topic and get over a hundred recs Rex Jan 2014 #139

I think it's because ProSense Jan 2014 #145

I love it when my posts rub the right people the wrong way! Rex Jan 2014 #146

I loved your post. ProSense Jan 2014 #147

I love it when my posts pisses some off so much they have to copycat me! Rex Jan 2014 #148

Hey, ProSense Jan 2014 #149

... Rex Jan 2014 #150

LOL! ProSense Jan 2014 #151

Yes you often do assume things! Rex Jan 2014 #152

Hey, ProSense Jan 2014 #156

How F'in dare you! obxhead Jan 2014 #142

Change won't come from within. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #154

I like how you think libodem Jan 2014 #155

Kick. n/t louslobbs Jan 2014 #159

but it's BIPARTISAN cuts Doctor_J Jan 2014 #161

Three ProSense Jan 2014 #164

If only there were GOP programs the President could threaten... Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #169

Military, farm subsidies, oil company subsidies, ultralow taxes on the wealthiest... MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #170

But Manny, how can this be?!?! The White House and Senate... Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #171

The Mighty GOP and their Iron-Clad Gerrymandered House Majority AndyTiedye Jan 2014 #175

Revenue bills require congress. joshcryer Jan 2014 #187

The same way they do. You BLOCK their bills... Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #193

And shut down government? joshcryer Jan 2014 #194

What bills? jeff47 Jan 2014 #200

True, they would let it shut down. joshcryer Jan 2014 #201

I know it. Trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of budget items, and every single GoneFishin Jan 2014 #192

It's up to the voters. fadedrose Jan 2014 #176

The vampires are hungry. moondust Jan 2014 #191

so...which is the truth ? NM_Birder Jan 2014 #207

Ah,..austerity.. adavid Jan 2014 #210

Creationism vs Darwinism burfman Feb 2014 #212

That's a very good point. MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #213