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BrotherIvan

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18. Everyone who spends time on a political board is gonna vote

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:52 PM

Jan 2014

It's pretty unanimous that everyone on DU hates Republicans. And yet, there is a strange faction of hall monitors who think it's cool to bash liberals who haven't sold out their principals because they can't figure out why we don't think every little thing *He* does is magic. The kneejerk reaction always is, "So will you vote for a Republican?" It's funny how the authoritarian brain can only think dichotomously, a trait often exhibited by Republicans themselves...

What the nannies here don't get is they are the absolute worst advertising for their cause. They cry "haters" and "ODS" for even the slightest hint that *He* is not being loved and admired at all times. They do not realize how They defend third way positions, not because they actually think those things, but because they perceive any criticism of that as a criticism against the President. I have not seen the likes of this kind of fervor since Reagan (funny that) and it is a bit uncomfortable to witness.

But anyone who uses rightwing smears such as "far left" is only outing themselves.

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Here's why I've given up on voting: [View all] MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 OP

Well said, Manny. K&R LittleBlue Jan 2014 #1

I blame everyone who votes for the mess we're in ProSense Jan 2014 #2

You have no right to blame the players when you sit out the game upaloopa Jan 2014 #87

Nah. Its easier to browbeat "the firebag left" Armstead Jan 2014 #3

+1. I voted for Obama, and yet I'm the bad guy for not being happy about quinnox Jan 2014 #4

would you rather Rand Paul demigoddess Jan 2014 #19

That is what is so sickening. Rand Paul is against the NSA spying and the drone strikes quinnox Jan 2014 #21

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #76

Rand Paul is ten kinds of effed up for that 1strong JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #102

But by all means ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #105

He is very opportunistic JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #107

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #110

Nailed it! JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #112

I hope you can see that opposing Obama and supporting Paul are two different things BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #132

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #133

It can be worthwile to guess at or speculate about Paul's positions BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #134

And that brings about ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #135

well, he is wrong to say domestic drones are ok. But he is right to be against the foreign drones quinnox Jan 2014 #120

Why do you believe ANYTHING paul says he believes in? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #122

Your statement is only valid sulphurdunn Jan 2014 #62

Strategic voting for third parties is a good thing. hueymahl Jan 2014 #81

You know what? I'm sick of this too. Please stop. tavalon Jan 2014 #100

"I'm a socialist who caucuses with Democrats." philly_bob Jan 2014 #154

I agree---whatever. sammy27932003 Jan 2014 #23

So she says things out loud that Obama doesn't tavalon Jan 2014 #101

because some of us are not myopic... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #26

An idiotic sports metaphor. SMC22307 Jan 2014 #66

When did Metaphors become against the rules? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #94

Who said they were against the rules? SMC22307 Jan 2014 #121

Oh here is where you accuse me of histrionics.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #149

Hey, if the comfortable shoe fits. SMC22307 Feb 2014 #155

Reading is your friend tavalon Jan 2014 #103

Don't tell me what I didn't read.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #152

If only eleven Virginians had thought like this... IllinoisBirdWatcher Jan 2014 #5

Did you even read the OP? MNBrewer Jan 2014 #14

Distracted by a Scarlet Tanager, no doubt. nt MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #15

Yes, as a matter of fact, I did. Twice. IllinoisBirdWatcher Jan 2014 #16

Third time's the charm. (n/t) SMC22307 Jan 2014 #127

+1 (Better yet: Plus ELEVEN ) Raine1967 Jan 2014 #17

+12! nt adirondacker Jan 2014 #83

Ohhh look........ a Cardinal. nt NCTraveler Jan 2014 #97

"Not as bad" is no longer good enough as a sales pitch. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #6

I'm with you. 840high Jan 2014 #12

You'll settle for the "Bad" then I suppose... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #28

How many? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #37

You really do only see small picture huh? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #38

What makes you think that? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #40

considering there is only one other VIABLE party? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #41

He had that when he was elected. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #44

and he only had 60 in the House...for 2 months....not filibuster proof. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #45

We lost the 2010 midterm because the wishy-washy middle... SMC22307 Jan 2014 #70

Who cares if Republicans Filibuster? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #89

so how many actual stand up and speak for days filibusters did the gop do? SwampG8r Feb 2014 #156

It wouldn't make any difference....the goal of the actual filibuster is to attempt to VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #157

so...............none? is that the number you are going with?zero?nt SwampG8r Feb 2014 #159

It's amazing to me how wishing Democrats were more progressive = "seeing the small picture" beerandjesus Jan 2014 #63

If the dems actually advocated progressive policies, CrispyQ Jan 2014 #73

Okay...YOU run without "lovin' that cash" VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #158

That is a misinterpretation of the conversation VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #93

No, it's a fair representation of what you said. beerandjesus Jan 2014 #119

I said it...I think I KNOW what I said...AND what I meant... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #150

Bingo ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #79

Frustation and feeling like it just doesn't matter tavalon Jan 2014 #106

We all do ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #109

The problem is with those who allow themselves to be influenced... SMC22307 Jan 2014 #128

Okay, right ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #130

I agree with you and yet, tavalon Jan 2014 #104

I always vote. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #115

I'm with you TyL swilton Jan 2014 #114

The problem isn't Liberals not voting, or Conservatives not voting Blaukraut Jan 2014 #7

Sometimes the Midterms are even more important... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #29

^^^^^ THIS!!! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #39

Minimum wage is this year's issue. merrily Jan 2014 #59

Thanks to Occupy and Moral Mondays for raising awareness... SMC22307 Jan 2014 #125

I always vote for the most progressive candidate on the ballot 1000words Jan 2014 #8

That's why I became an Indy. 840high Jan 2014 #13

Yeah, what Manny said. nt Nay Jan 2014 #9

Scare the youth; Want to have $3 minimum wage? If not, vote Democratic! ErikJ Jan 2014 #10

The youth votes; it's that the elder brackets counter their votes AND outnumber them Scootaloo Jan 2014 #27

But Youth do NOT vote in mid-terms! ErikJ Jan 2014 #36

Everyone should vote, no matter what cprise Jan 2014 #11

I think there will be a lot of write ins if Dems don't get Progressive Candidates to vote for this sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #22

There's always alot of write ins... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #31

Did you forget about 2010? Apparently! sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #33

OHHH it was "Progressives" that stayed home and caused that... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #34

No, it was Independents who had come out in 2008, who were so disappointed in the Democratic Party sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #35

No it wasn't....it was overall lack of any group turning out.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #46

Don't you get tired of being wrong? The disappointment of the young voters in sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #47

ahahahahah You are funny lady! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #53

Don't you get tired of being perpetually WRONG? bvar22 Jan 2014 #80

baloney....a diary on Dailykos is your "evidence"? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #84

No. The exit polls from 2010 are my evidence, bvar22 Jan 2014 #86

Exit polls of the people that "didn't show"? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #90

NONE of which supports YOUR fantasy that Liberals Stayed Home. bvar22 Jan 2014 #96

that was not MY fantasy.....DUH~ VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #98

" you progessives" tavalon Jan 2014 #108

that's why its in quotations.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #151

Everyone who spends time on a political board is gonna vote BrotherIvan Jan 2014 #18

Well said. 1000words Jan 2014 #49

Agreed. LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #56

+1 nt laundry_queen Jan 2014 #140

Spot on! n/t Kermitt Gribble Jan 2014 #147

That would be a good idea if the concern was actually about GOTV. JoeyT Jan 2014 #20

What you said BrotherIvan Jan 2014 #52

By international standards, the Democrats are an odd mishmash of center-right and center-left Distant Quasar Jan 2014 #92

I am an Independent that always votes. Xyzse Jan 2014 #24

Me too...I live in MD also...and I go to Virginia VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #32

Where was Obama when good Democrats like Howard Dean and Jim Moran... SMC22307 Jan 2014 #78

Still in the Senate.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #88

Obama was in the White House during the ACA Townhalls, and he left Democratic Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #95

Exactly. And when Grassley flat out lied at public rallies it was left unchecked. n/t cui bono Jan 2014 #113

bullshit...I remember those days.....he couldn't do a thing... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #148

You're being quite rude considering you are completely wrong. cui bono Jan 2014 #116

President Obama was still in the Senate? SMC22307 Jan 2014 #123

Thank you swilton Jan 2014 #117

Comfortable shoes, ba-by. SMC22307 Jan 2014 #124

Well said Manny.... ReRe Jan 2014 #25

the people MisterP Jan 2014 #30

Nice B. Brecht Quote vlakitti Jan 2014 #50

"Would it not be easier ... To dissolve the people/ And elect another?" MisterP Jan 2014 #126

Is this "hair on fire," Manny? "Rainbow unicorn-ing?" villager Jan 2014 #42

Whatever manny, iamthebandfanman Jan 2014 #43

I notice you only mention 2000 and Gore hfojvt Jan 2014 #48

"We vote every #%^*ing time." Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #51

No thank you, I've finally been cured..... DeSwiss Jan 2014 #54

Good quote. nt laundry_queen Jan 2014 #141

Great post, Manny! Enthusiast Jan 2014 #55

They have to keep hammering away at the lie, if not they admit their corporate politics TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #57

+100 Hammering away at the lie Jakes Progress Jan 2014 #65

Independents... if you live in a state where Independents can't vote in primaries... NYtoBush-Drop Dead Jan 2014 #58

To deny there's a gap between GE's and mid-terms is ignorant. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #60

Calm down Manny mstinamotorcity2 Jan 2014 #61

I disagree. Nate Silver made it clear that the 2010 problem was left-leaning voters not voting. broadcaster75201 Jan 2014 #64

That's not how I read this from Silver: MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #67

Pfft. What does Nate Silver know? Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #71

Thanks, well done. dreamnightwind Jan 2014 #144

Obama voter does not mean left-leaning dreamnightwind Jan 2014 #75

True. And his most ardent and vocal supporters are not left-leaning either. n/t cui bono Jan 2014 #118

Then you need to help get MORE liberals to vote. Arkana Jan 2014 #68

To vote or not to vote... polichick Jan 2014 #69

And therein lies the problem: ladyVet Jan 2014 #72

Phew ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #74

Those that blame the left talk out of both sides of their faces. From one side of their faces they rhett o rick Jan 2014 #77

If I'm not thrilled with the dem candidate, I'm voting green. CrispyQ Jan 2014 #82

I believe you, Progressive dog Jan 2014 #85

Here's why I've given up on JUST voting: Coyotl Jan 2014 #91

Thank you Manny, that really, really needed to be said. I'm so tired of that old canard, tavalon Jan 2014 #99

Vote defensively. another_liberal Jan 2014 #111

Here we go again. Eatacig Jan 2014 #129

What happened with "the imminent backlash of the left" XRubicon Jan 2014 #131

That is why I am now an independent. I am done being abused. When there is a left leaning liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #136

look at the way the vote is counted and reported questionseverything Jan 2014 #137

voting kardonb Jan 2014 #138

Thank you... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #139

huh.. Peacetrain Jan 2014 #142

Confess. You just read the title, not the message text. MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #143

Nope I read the title, the whole thing Peacetrain Jan 2014 #146

Voting is a responsibility to our families and to all Americans. AAO Jan 2014 #145

Rec and Kick! Lunacee_2013 Jan 2014 #153