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Tom Ripley

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6. Another recent Amazon story...

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Fri Mar 14, 2014, 12:24 PM

Mar 2014

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/02/17/140217fa_fact_packer?currentPage=all

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How Amazon can offer free shipping to Prime members (hint: by charging them shipping) [View all] joeglow3 Mar 2014 OP

I rarely use 3rd party vendors el_bryanto Mar 2014 #1

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #116

Unaware buyers Blue_Adept Mar 2014 #2

Uh, you can see that when you order from MineralMan Mar 2014 #3

wait a minute d_r Mar 2014 #4

The argument is that it is confusing.... cbdo2007 Mar 2014 #7

I'm not being a smart elick d_r Mar 2014 #19

How can you get "tricked"? Codeine Mar 2014 #20

There's big ass baby blue letters that say PRIME on stuff that is PRIME eligible. MADem Mar 2014 #26

I agree. BooBrown Mar 2014 #127

The prime includes more than shipping. former9thward Mar 2014 #5

I believe the lawsuit covers a period when that was not case joeglow3 Mar 2014 #10

Yep--and the Prime shipping deal includes 2-day shipping, which is tblue37 Mar 2014 #77

Another recent Amazon story... Tom Ripley Mar 2014 #6

Thanks.. interesting. Cha Mar 2014 #69

We have Prime here and pipi_k Mar 2014 #8

You also want to know when its delivered because sometimes, JoePhilly Mar 2014 #13

That happened to me once. I was at my summer address and MADem Mar 2014 #27

BS claim from an idiot whatthehey Mar 2014 #9

A: there's the "prime" logo on most prime listings cyberswede Mar 2014 #11

That was not the case joeglow3 Mar 2014 #14

Well, from what I've seen... cyberswede Mar 2014 #16

But, is amazon overstating the benefit it is selling you? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #17

I don't know about intentional deceit, but... cyberswede Mar 2014 #18

Seems more a case of stupid consumer should look closer. CBGLuthier Mar 2014 #12

So, deception is okay for companies? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #15

Prime is an advantage to Wholesale level buyers, it doesn't make sense for an bluestate10 Mar 2014 #30

Please. Ruby the Liberal Mar 2014 #21

And??? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #22

"Provide a different method" Ruby the Liberal Mar 2014 #23

No, amazon colluding with the third party seller to make prime more attractive joeglow3 Mar 2014 #24

*sigh* Ruby the Liberal Mar 2014 #25

Good defense mechanism joeglow3 Mar 2014 #33

How do they "fuck over" state and local governments? MADem Mar 2014 #28

Because you are in one of the few states amazon has elected to collect taxes in joeglow3 Mar 2014 #32

Amazon collects taxes for twenty states now, and more are expected to come online. MADem Mar 2014 #35

I am a tax CPA and understand nexus pretty well joeglow3 Mar 2014 #42

Apparently you don't understand it....because if you read the article I provided, you'd have a MADem Mar 2014 #45

Thanks for educating me on nexus and public law 86-272 joeglow3 Mar 2014 #46

You're welcome. I won't charge you for it or the lesson on the difference between 20 and "a few."nt MADem Mar 2014 #49

No problem. My wife is a nurse. You want to educate her as well? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #52

No, I have an in-law who is a nurse, I can get all the info I need from her. MADem Mar 2014 #55

They don't pay taxes to most states joeglow3 Mar 2014 #57

Come up with some new complaints, at least. MADem Mar 2014 #62

Do you oppose corporate welfare? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #66

I don't shop at Walmart. How many times do I have to repeat that to you? nt MADem Mar 2014 #67

I did ask about walmart. I merely used them as an example joeglow3 Mar 2014 #72

Yes, indeed, you DID ask about walmart...so why, when I keep telling you I don't shop there, MADem Mar 2014 #76

They are only gotcha questions because you see the hypocrisy joeglow3 Mar 2014 #80

No. I don't see the hypocrisy, sorry. I pay my sales tax and I get stuff delivered to my door. MADem Mar 2014 #87

Is there any company you think gets corporate welfare? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #92

I'm sure there must be. But that has nothing to do with my ordering stuff from Amazon, paying my MADem Mar 2014 #97

Would you acknowledge that by giving money to these companies, joeglow3 Mar 2014 #102

Which companies? You're trying to conduct some sort of "inquisition" with dire and vague language. MADem Mar 2014 #103

Do a search of corporate welfare joeglow3 Mar 2014 #105

As they say... pipi_k Mar 2014 #88

We're in it together really means OTHER people sacrifice, not me. joeglow3 Mar 2014 #91

Exactly! pipi_k Mar 2014 #113

Asking someone to shop at a store that doesn't fuck people over joeglow3 Mar 2014 #118

And you don't understand pipi_k Mar 2014 #120

They must live is a shit hole of a place joeglow3 Mar 2014 #121

Sorry, but... pipi_k Mar 2014 #123

So, you admit you did not try to work something out locally joeglow3 Mar 2014 #126

Actually pipi_k Mar 2014 #129

If a local store that had what I wanted would deliver, I'd be down with that. MADem Mar 2014 #98

I can understand that. joeglow3 Mar 2014 #134

It's not Amazon screwing the state and local governments forthemiddle Mar 2014 #89

And every company getting billions in corporate welfare do so legally joeglow3 Mar 2014 #93

The consumer is responsible for the taxes, not amazon JJChambers Mar 2014 #90

Try to be intellectually honest here. joeglow3 Mar 2014 #94

Your position seems irresponsible and disingenuous to me JJChambers Mar 2014 #96

Have you not paid attention to what amazon has done to people to avoid nexus? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #101

. JJChambers Mar 2014 #104

I can be upset with multiple parties at once. joeglow3 Mar 2014 #106

Do you blame the fat child who asks for an extra slice of chocolate cake JJChambers Mar 2014 #107

False equivalency joeglow3 Mar 2014 #108

It's premised on not rewarding or facilitating undesired behavior JJChambers Mar 2014 #109

So, the company using a jet to wine a dine a congressman is okay joeglow3 Mar 2014 #111

+1 nt MADem Mar 2014 #99

HHUUURRRR!!! Aaaaaammaazzzhaaaaannn!! TAXESSSS!! TAAXESSSS!! Y U NO PAY TEXASSS!??! ReverendDeuce Mar 2014 #75

But....but.... MADem Mar 2014 #78

Amazon is moving into Wholesale level sales, that is an advantage to some businesses, bluestate10 Mar 2014 #29

I love Amazon Prime elfin Mar 2014 #31

And do you pay use tax in everything your purchase? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #34

Elfin's favorite group is Wisconsin. MADem Mar 2014 #37

I didn't see wisconsin on any lists that amazon collects for joeglow3 Mar 2014 #38

It's in the link I provided to you. MADem Mar 2014 #39

And people say the same for Walmart joeglow3 Mar 2014 #41

Walmart doesn't carry specialty dog food for a sick dog. Amazon does. MADem Mar 2014 #43

I guaran-fucking-tee there are local places that carry it joeglow3 Mar 2014 #47

There aren't. I've already done the round robin. I've gone round in person, and called. MADem Mar 2014 #50

The logic is EXACTLY about Walmart joeglow3 Mar 2014 #51

No it isn't. Walmart doesn't have what I need, and you don't have to pay to park. MADem Mar 2014 #54

So long as you get yours. joeglow3 Mar 2014 #56

Yes, I think if I'm going to pay for something I want, I should get what I pay for--not some shitty MADem Mar 2014 #60

The right supports corporate welfare joeglow3 Mar 2014 #61

Waaah, waaah, waaah. Get your state legislators to get off their asses and go after Amazon. MADem Mar 2014 #64

Your ignorance of how nexus works is astounding. joeglow3 Mar 2014 #65

No, it isn't. You might try reading the link and learning a little something. MADem Mar 2014 #68

What part of "I do this for a living don't you understand?" joeglow3 Mar 2014 #71

How about the part where it becomes pretty obvious that you can't or won't absorb the material MADem Mar 2014 #73

Do honestly think the most contested issue of multi state tax joeglow3 Mar 2014 #79

Someone doesn't have much of a job, now you're repeating the MADem Mar 2014 #85

Do think amazons physical presence is identical in all fifty states? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #81

You can learn the answer to that by reading the article I provided. nt MADem Mar 2014 #82

I'd gladly pay sales tax on my online purchases Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #84

And the people forced to use Amazon would be...? WinkyDink Mar 2014 #36

So, companies should be able to collude joeglow3 Mar 2014 #48

UPS arriving at like 10PM at night Aerows Mar 2014 #40

Oooh, nasty. ananda Mar 2014 #44

Amazon Prime Terms and Conditions here: greyl Mar 2014 #53

I really can't grasp the basis of this lawsuit. Seems like someone who is math-challenged. DebJ Mar 2014 #58

Meh. Baseless lawsuit, I think Godhumor Mar 2014 #59

There once was a woman who had an Amazon account who pugetres Mar 2014 #63

You can share your prime account with four others at the same address, which is nice if you have a MADem Mar 2014 #74

I like Amazon. sendero Mar 2014 #70

The world is not pipi_k Mar 2014 #83

And, you just argued against everything obama and progressives are fighting for joeglow3 Mar 2014 #95

I didn't pipi_k Mar 2014 #114

They will get a job with a living wage at a locally owned business joeglow3 Mar 2014 #117

Well then a question... pipi_k Mar 2014 #119

You incorrectly assume economics is a zero sum game joeglow3 Mar 2014 #122

For one thing, pipi_k Mar 2014 #124

That is a bullshit position joeglow3 Mar 2014 #125

I can see pipi_k Mar 2014 #130

I am more upset with them cheating state and local govt out of 8.6 billion joeglow3 Mar 2014 #133

And a rising tide--as well as a rising minimum wage (thanks, Obama!) lifts all boats! MADem Mar 2014 #100

Yep...or... pipi_k Mar 2014 #115

All profit is theft. Don't hate the player, hate the game (Capitalism)! DireStrike Mar 2014 #112

I also use Google Shopping steve2470 Mar 2014 #86

As someone who has worked for an Amazon third party seller, this is fascinating. DireStrike Mar 2014 #110

It's those "Lot more factors involved" that make it deceptive and unethical. kcr Mar 2014 #128

There's no collusion (that I'm aware of,) and Amazon itself doesn't charge extra. DireStrike Mar 2014 #131

Amazon itself isn't charging extra, but they're encouraging it with the vendor referral fees kcr Mar 2014 #132