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joeglow3

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38. I didn't see wisconsin on any lists that amazon collects for

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:49 PM

Mar 2014

That said, they still actively set up their business to avoid collecting more in sales tax than all but a couple companies get in corporate welfare. Said differently, they are in the top five worst offenders for fucking over poor people through corporate welfare. And people wonder why we are fucked: people on DU are lining up to jump to their defense and tout their business model.

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How Amazon can offer free shipping to Prime members (hint: by charging them shipping) [View all] joeglow3 Mar 2014 OP

I rarely use 3rd party vendors el_bryanto Mar 2014 #1

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #116

Unaware buyers Blue_Adept Mar 2014 #2

Uh, you can see that when you order from MineralMan Mar 2014 #3

wait a minute d_r Mar 2014 #4

The argument is that it is confusing.... cbdo2007 Mar 2014 #7

I'm not being a smart elick d_r Mar 2014 #19

How can you get "tricked"? Codeine Mar 2014 #20

There's big ass baby blue letters that say PRIME on stuff that is PRIME eligible. MADem Mar 2014 #26

I agree. BooBrown Mar 2014 #127

The prime includes more than shipping. former9thward Mar 2014 #5

I believe the lawsuit covers a period when that was not case joeglow3 Mar 2014 #10

Yep--and the Prime shipping deal includes 2-day shipping, which is tblue37 Mar 2014 #77

Another recent Amazon story... Tom Ripley Mar 2014 #6

Thanks.. interesting. Cha Mar 2014 #69

We have Prime here and pipi_k Mar 2014 #8

You also want to know when its delivered because sometimes, JoePhilly Mar 2014 #13

That happened to me once. I was at my summer address and MADem Mar 2014 #27

BS claim from an idiot whatthehey Mar 2014 #9

A: there's the "prime" logo on most prime listings cyberswede Mar 2014 #11

That was not the case joeglow3 Mar 2014 #14

Well, from what I've seen... cyberswede Mar 2014 #16

But, is amazon overstating the benefit it is selling you? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #17

I don't know about intentional deceit, but... cyberswede Mar 2014 #18

Seems more a case of stupid consumer should look closer. CBGLuthier Mar 2014 #12

So, deception is okay for companies? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #15

Prime is an advantage to Wholesale level buyers, it doesn't make sense for an bluestate10 Mar 2014 #30

Please. Ruby the Liberal Mar 2014 #21

And??? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #22

"Provide a different method" Ruby the Liberal Mar 2014 #23

No, amazon colluding with the third party seller to make prime more attractive joeglow3 Mar 2014 #24

*sigh* Ruby the Liberal Mar 2014 #25

Good defense mechanism joeglow3 Mar 2014 #33

How do they "fuck over" state and local governments? MADem Mar 2014 #28

Because you are in one of the few states amazon has elected to collect taxes in joeglow3 Mar 2014 #32

Amazon collects taxes for twenty states now, and more are expected to come online. MADem Mar 2014 #35

I am a tax CPA and understand nexus pretty well joeglow3 Mar 2014 #42

Apparently you don't understand it....because if you read the article I provided, you'd have a MADem Mar 2014 #45

Thanks for educating me on nexus and public law 86-272 joeglow3 Mar 2014 #46

You're welcome. I won't charge you for it or the lesson on the difference between 20 and "a few."nt MADem Mar 2014 #49

No problem. My wife is a nurse. You want to educate her as well? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #52

No, I have an in-law who is a nurse, I can get all the info I need from her. MADem Mar 2014 #55

They don't pay taxes to most states joeglow3 Mar 2014 #57

Come up with some new complaints, at least. MADem Mar 2014 #62

Do you oppose corporate welfare? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #66

I don't shop at Walmart. How many times do I have to repeat that to you? nt MADem Mar 2014 #67

I did ask about walmart. I merely used them as an example joeglow3 Mar 2014 #72

Yes, indeed, you DID ask about walmart...so why, when I keep telling you I don't shop there, MADem Mar 2014 #76

They are only gotcha questions because you see the hypocrisy joeglow3 Mar 2014 #80

No. I don't see the hypocrisy, sorry. I pay my sales tax and I get stuff delivered to my door. MADem Mar 2014 #87

Is there any company you think gets corporate welfare? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #92

I'm sure there must be. But that has nothing to do with my ordering stuff from Amazon, paying my MADem Mar 2014 #97

Would you acknowledge that by giving money to these companies, joeglow3 Mar 2014 #102

Which companies? You're trying to conduct some sort of "inquisition" with dire and vague language. MADem Mar 2014 #103

Do a search of corporate welfare joeglow3 Mar 2014 #105

As they say... pipi_k Mar 2014 #88

We're in it together really means OTHER people sacrifice, not me. joeglow3 Mar 2014 #91

Exactly! pipi_k Mar 2014 #113

Asking someone to shop at a store that doesn't fuck people over joeglow3 Mar 2014 #118

And you don't understand pipi_k Mar 2014 #120

They must live is a shit hole of a place joeglow3 Mar 2014 #121

Sorry, but... pipi_k Mar 2014 #123

So, you admit you did not try to work something out locally joeglow3 Mar 2014 #126

Actually pipi_k Mar 2014 #129

If a local store that had what I wanted would deliver, I'd be down with that. MADem Mar 2014 #98

I can understand that. joeglow3 Mar 2014 #134

It's not Amazon screwing the state and local governments forthemiddle Mar 2014 #89

And every company getting billions in corporate welfare do so legally joeglow3 Mar 2014 #93

The consumer is responsible for the taxes, not amazon JJChambers Mar 2014 #90

Try to be intellectually honest here. joeglow3 Mar 2014 #94

Your position seems irresponsible and disingenuous to me JJChambers Mar 2014 #96

Have you not paid attention to what amazon has done to people to avoid nexus? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #101

. JJChambers Mar 2014 #104

I can be upset with multiple parties at once. joeglow3 Mar 2014 #106

Do you blame the fat child who asks for an extra slice of chocolate cake JJChambers Mar 2014 #107

False equivalency joeglow3 Mar 2014 #108

It's premised on not rewarding or facilitating undesired behavior JJChambers Mar 2014 #109

So, the company using a jet to wine a dine a congressman is okay joeglow3 Mar 2014 #111

+1 nt MADem Mar 2014 #99

HHUUURRRR!!! Aaaaaammaazzzhaaaaannn!! TAXESSSS!! TAAXESSSS!! Y U NO PAY TEXASSS!??! ReverendDeuce Mar 2014 #75

But....but.... MADem Mar 2014 #78

Amazon is moving into Wholesale level sales, that is an advantage to some businesses, bluestate10 Mar 2014 #29

I love Amazon Prime elfin Mar 2014 #31

And do you pay use tax in everything your purchase? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #34

Elfin's favorite group is Wisconsin. MADem Mar 2014 #37

I didn't see wisconsin on any lists that amazon collects for joeglow3 Mar 2014 #38

It's in the link I provided to you. MADem Mar 2014 #39

And people say the same for Walmart joeglow3 Mar 2014 #41

Walmart doesn't carry specialty dog food for a sick dog. Amazon does. MADem Mar 2014 #43

I guaran-fucking-tee there are local places that carry it joeglow3 Mar 2014 #47

There aren't. I've already done the round robin. I've gone round in person, and called. MADem Mar 2014 #50

The logic is EXACTLY about Walmart joeglow3 Mar 2014 #51

No it isn't. Walmart doesn't have what I need, and you don't have to pay to park. MADem Mar 2014 #54

So long as you get yours. joeglow3 Mar 2014 #56

Yes, I think if I'm going to pay for something I want, I should get what I pay for--not some shitty MADem Mar 2014 #60

The right supports corporate welfare joeglow3 Mar 2014 #61

Waaah, waaah, waaah. Get your state legislators to get off their asses and go after Amazon. MADem Mar 2014 #64

Your ignorance of how nexus works is astounding. joeglow3 Mar 2014 #65

No, it isn't. You might try reading the link and learning a little something. MADem Mar 2014 #68

What part of "I do this for a living don't you understand?" joeglow3 Mar 2014 #71

How about the part where it becomes pretty obvious that you can't or won't absorb the material MADem Mar 2014 #73

Do honestly think the most contested issue of multi state tax joeglow3 Mar 2014 #79

Someone doesn't have much of a job, now you're repeating the MADem Mar 2014 #85

Do think amazons physical presence is identical in all fifty states? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #81

You can learn the answer to that by reading the article I provided. nt MADem Mar 2014 #82

I'd gladly pay sales tax on my online purchases Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #84

And the people forced to use Amazon would be...? WinkyDink Mar 2014 #36

So, companies should be able to collude joeglow3 Mar 2014 #48

UPS arriving at like 10PM at night Aerows Mar 2014 #40

Oooh, nasty. ananda Mar 2014 #44

Amazon Prime Terms and Conditions here: greyl Mar 2014 #53

I really can't grasp the basis of this lawsuit. Seems like someone who is math-challenged. DebJ Mar 2014 #58

Meh. Baseless lawsuit, I think Godhumor Mar 2014 #59

There once was a woman who had an Amazon account who pugetres Mar 2014 #63

You can share your prime account with four others at the same address, which is nice if you have a MADem Mar 2014 #74

I like Amazon. sendero Mar 2014 #70

The world is not pipi_k Mar 2014 #83

And, you just argued against everything obama and progressives are fighting for joeglow3 Mar 2014 #95

I didn't pipi_k Mar 2014 #114

They will get a job with a living wage at a locally owned business joeglow3 Mar 2014 #117

Well then a question... pipi_k Mar 2014 #119

You incorrectly assume economics is a zero sum game joeglow3 Mar 2014 #122

For one thing, pipi_k Mar 2014 #124

That is a bullshit position joeglow3 Mar 2014 #125

I can see pipi_k Mar 2014 #130

I am more upset with them cheating state and local govt out of 8.6 billion joeglow3 Mar 2014 #133

And a rising tide--as well as a rising minimum wage (thanks, Obama!) lifts all boats! MADem Mar 2014 #100

Yep...or... pipi_k Mar 2014 #115

All profit is theft. Don't hate the player, hate the game (Capitalism)! DireStrike Mar 2014 #112

I also use Google Shopping steve2470 Mar 2014 #86

As someone who has worked for an Amazon third party seller, this is fascinating. DireStrike Mar 2014 #110

It's those "Lot more factors involved" that make it deceptive and unethical. kcr Mar 2014 #128

There's no collusion (that I'm aware of,) and Amazon itself doesn't charge extra. DireStrike Mar 2014 #131

Amazon itself isn't charging extra, but they're encouraging it with the vendor referral fees kcr Mar 2014 #132