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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
52. It means
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:48 PM
Mar 2012

"Does this mean you favor the bill?"

...I see the flaws in the bill. Do I think it has the potential Senator Sanders decribed? Frankly no. A lot of the opposition was to the House version. The fact that, per the Merkley amendment, investors with incomes or net worth less than $100,000 are limited to 5 percent of their income and must be provided information helps. Senator Reeds amendment would have added more protection, but it was filibusted by Republicans.

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Reed’s amendment to strengthen the bill won 54 votes, however, 60 votes were needed to overcome a Republican filibuster and the amendment was blocked.

Today, Reed offered another amendment to require the SEC to include “beneficial owners” when tallying the shareholders of record in a company – so that all companies count their shareholders accurately and cannot use gimmicks to avoid periodic reporting requirements.

According to the Associated Press, Reed’s amendment “tightens the definition of "shareholder" so that large companies can't ignore the thousands of beneficial owners — the people who have the power to sell and vote on shares — to stay under the SEC threshold for filing information. Reed said that under the House bill, companies can count only record holders — such as brokers who sell the stock to thousands of beneficial owners — in order to stay under the shareholder limit, set to rise from 500 to 2,000, for SEC registration.”

Reed’s efforts to help prevent financial fraud and abuse were backed by a strong coalition of consumer advocacy groups, including: the North American Securities Administrators Association (NASAA); state regulators; auditors; financial analysts; pension fund managers; the Consumer Federation of America, and AARP.

However, Reed’s amendment was defeated by a voice vote and the underlying bill, which could open up the spigot to unsuspecting Americans getting solicited by unscrupulous brokers, passed on a vote of 73-26.

Speaking today on the floor of the U.S. Senate, Reed warned: “By stripping away auditing standards and giving the investing public less information in almost every setting, sophisticated players and investment banks will have all the advantages.

“The average investor will be operating in much more challenged circumstances. Middle-class Americans will be particularly affected.

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http://www.reed.senate.gov/press/release/reed-ipo-deal-bad-for-consumers-could-harm-long-term-economic-growth


http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=2&vote=00051

The bill will likely end up in conference, which means there is time to fix it.

Everyone should contact their members of Congress.

Still, given that there is a massive package of regulation still being implemented, I doubt it will have the devastating impact being predicted.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002464969


Does that whining, unicorn-seeking socialist think - what? - there should be *more than one party?* villager Mar 2012 #1
You just want to see if we're smart enough to know sarcasm tularetom Mar 2012 #2
The Senate ProSense Mar 2012 #3
Here's a good ProSense Mar 2012 #21
Thanks for posting that so I could see the details of what was wrong with this bill. grantcart Mar 2012 #28
Does this mean you favor the bill? nm rhett o rick Mar 2012 #39
It means ProSense Mar 2012 #52
I know, right? girl gone mad Mar 2012 #4
We need Obama's Boiler Room Legalization Act to pass ASAP AlbertCat Mar 2012 #30
Well Hell... He's Not A Democrat !!! WillyT Mar 2012 #5
Back in the '60s, Bernie would have been in the same league Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #7
Don't forget Wayne Morse! former9thward Mar 2012 #48
Thanks for mentioning Morse Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #55
Well MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #10
I think you meant 'he's not pragmatic'! sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #12
I MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #14
I 100% agree with you. jtuck004 Mar 2012 #19
Manny, maybe you ought to actually LISTEN to what Bernie is saying, Dont call me Shirley Mar 2012 #37
Manny's comments are sarcastic... SomethingFishy Mar 2012 #38
It was sarcasm. MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #40
I knew it was sarcasm - even before I read the post. Plucketeer Mar 2012 #43
Manny, I have really come to enjoy your so very dry wit, makes me chuckle, and I need that 2banon Mar 2012 #46
Aww... shucks... MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #53
Bernie is a self-admited Democratic Socialist, such as the govt's in many European countries. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2012 #36
You would think with the recent press about Wall Street... MrMickeysMom Mar 2012 #6
And Obama will sign the deregulation of Wall Street Act by Cantor fasttense Mar 2012 #23
Bernie is left of Stalin! Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2012 #8
You can't have it both ways. Either corporate money is the problem, or it isn't saras Mar 2012 #9
You'll have to ask the lovely folks at counterpunch RZM Mar 2012 #11
Thanks for the link. SunSeeker Mar 2012 #17
Good question RZM Mar 2012 #18
Oh .... it's an article by Thomas Naylor, not a Counterpunch editorial. Thanks for the link! Better Believe It Mar 2012 #22
Every day. There's a new one every damned day. woo me with science Mar 2012 #13
It is a Fluff piece. NO REAL JOBS are created. Justice wanted Mar 2012 #15
K&R (n/t) a2liberal Mar 2012 #16
IMHO Bernie would be a Democrat chnoutte Mar 2012 #20
You're probably right - and if the DLC and Third Way hadn't taken over... polichick Mar 2012 #25
I think you're overlooking the Progressive Caucus. eom xtraxritical Mar 2012 #54
The Progressive Caucus is prettry much useless right now chnoutte Mar 2012 #58
If god didn't want kids to work he wouldn't have given them hands. nt raouldukelives Mar 2012 #24
whiner Bernie Sanders... Slit Skirt Mar 2012 #26
It was SammyWinstonJack Mar 2012 #27
Eric works for ALEC.... midnight Mar 2012 #29
Cantor receives xxqqqzme Mar 2012 #33
Thomas Jefferson is, no doubt, rolling in his grave Dont call me Shirley Mar 2012 #35
interesting. that makes sense now. n/t 2banon Mar 2012 #47
I wish there were more Bernie Sanders. He stands for what he believes in and the working people. southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #31
Wah wah wah. Bernie didn't get his pony. progressoid Mar 2012 #32
WTF kind of poison pill is in THAT jobs act? You know there's gotta be one Dont call me Shirley Mar 2012 #34
Good ol Bernie magic59 Mar 2012 #41
No chance malthaussen Mar 2012 #50
Great piece at the link, Manny. Thanks. nt gateley Mar 2012 #42
Only in this country do they have the audacity to sell a bill that further enables the swindlers as mother earth Mar 2012 #44
The JOBS Act: Joining the fine tradition of Healthy Forests, Clear Skies, and the PATRIOT ACT RufusTFirefly Mar 2012 #45
It's Doubleplusgood! progressoid Mar 2012 #56
Our best hope sulphurdunn Mar 2012 #49
That darn Bernie. Octafish Mar 2012 #51
Sarcasm is the last refuge of a scoundrel... Agony Mar 2012 #57
Nothing.. he's just being a socialist. DCBob Mar 2012 #59
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