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In reply to the discussion: ''Looking Forward'' not only cleared war criminals Bush and Cheney, but the Banksters, as well. [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)72. Excellent post. I just mentioned the devotion of the Neocons, Ledeen in particular, to Machievellian
theories, Ledeen even wrote a book about his hero, Machievelli.
Lying to the people eg, is 'necessary' and 'noble' in their world.
Remember THIS quote which it is believed, came from Karl Rove himself:
The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that realityjudiciously, as you willwe'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors
and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."[2
'All of you' would be us. He has been proven to be correct mainly due to those who will blindly defend and protect 'history's actors' no matter what they do.
If the people were ever to unite against them, instead of bickering (no doubt with their help) among themselves, they would definitely need to 'fear the people' rather than what they have accomplished, causing those people who DO speak out about what they up to, cause the people to fear THEM, see all of our Whistle Blowers eg, and good journalists, and even the people, see OWS, and how quickly they come under attack.
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''Looking Forward'' not only cleared war criminals Bush and Cheney, but the Banksters, as well. [View all]
Octafish
Mar 2014
OP
Excellent post. I just mentioned the devotion of the Neocons, Ledeen in particular, to Machievellian
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#72
Of course it's a metaphor. I was following from Obama's use of that metaphor.
Jackpine Radical
Mar 2014
#33
Maybe he doesnt have a choice. He appears to have been given some leeway on social issues
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#12
And the banksters are still at it. There is at least examples of that in our history so it would not
jwirr
Mar 2014
#7
Remember how the passed a law to retroactively protect telecoms from prosecution? Let's do the
grahamhgreen
Mar 2014
#19
That's one of the positive things to keep in mind. There seem to be more and more
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#82
They put children out on the streets so they could hoard billions they will never use.
grahamhgreen
Mar 2014
#18
When the SC appointed Bush. When Bush invaded Iraq. When we were forced to...
polichick
Mar 2014
#24
"They are dogged in their defense of their guy." Because you folks are dogged in your persecution...
phleshdef
Mar 2014
#28
Wish it weren't so, but it's Year Six and there's no Justice for Banksters, even on the horizon.
Octafish
Mar 2014
#34
Hey buddy, can you spare a newb a kick and tell him what the "Safe Zone" is? n/t
fleabiscuit
Mar 2014
#38
No, there were many crimes of fraud. These were even exposed on right wing liars 60 Minutes.
Enthusiast
Mar 2014
#66
Then that is what they are being told. Because anything less isn't justice at all.
Solly Mack
Mar 2014
#80