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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. Again,
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 09:12 AM
Apr 2014

"My reading of this is that the Russian government isn't requiring that simple associating (being with, talking with, etc) with foreigners result in a "foreign NGO" label. They mean material financial support."

...the Russian Government seems to have no problem with American RW hate group in the U.S. are freely exporting hate.

Religious right leader backs Russian crackdown on gay rights

By Steve Benen

The crackdown on gay rights on Russia is stunning in its scope, and offers a reminder that Russia "remains a country where discrimination and even violence against gay people are widely tolerated." But while much of the West has condemned Vladimir Putin's new efforts, the offensive is not without American backers.

Voice of Russia is the government's official international radio broadcasting service, and last week, it ran a report touting comments from the American Family Association's Bryan Fischer, a prominent leader of the religious right movement here in the U.S., who spoke to VOR at some length.

"Russia is not being homophobic, it's homorealistic -- the Russian government is trying to take the issue into consideration and establish public policy to contribute to public health, as this lifestyle is not be promoted, endorsed or granted special legal protection", the expert said, warning of high health risks linked to this lifestyle.

He cites the Center for Disease Control that has monitored the HIV epidemic since 1987 and determined that 61% of HIV-positive males had sexual contacts with other males. "Homosexual behavior is just as risky as drug abuse," Fischer said.

"I think the Russian government is right to be concerned with propaganda on teenagers who are at the age of struggling through sexual identity issue and we should help to channel these urges in productive behavior. Heterosexuality is God's design. Policies that encourage young people to think this are good ideas."

<...>

Note, Fischer's not the only one in the U.S. cheering Russia on. As we talked about a while back, the Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute said it "admires" Russia's anti-gay moves; Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth About Homosexuality lauded Russia for rejecting "America's reckless and decadent promotion of gender confusion"; and the Illinois-based World Congress of Families has scheduled its 2014 conference for the Kremlin...then, of course, there's evangelical activist Scott Lively...sounds familiar, it's probably because of his work in Uganda, where he brags he is known as the "father" of the anti-gay movements. When Uganda took up a "Kill the Gays" bill, proponents said it arose out of an anti-gay conference that Lively headlined in 2009. Earlier this year, the Washington Post reported that Lively has spent the last decade working "systematically to strip away human rights protections from LGBT people" around the world, becoming "a kind of persecution consultant, strategizing with influential leaders and cohorts in other countries about ways to further silence and remove LGBT people from basic protections of the law."

And wouldn't you know it, Lively conducted a 50-city speaking tour of Russia in 2007, where he recommended the very measures Russia is now pursuing. From an AP report last year:

"Russia could become a model pro-family society," he wrote. "If this were to occur, I believe people from the West would begin to emigrate to Russia in the same way that Russians used to emigrate to the United States and Europe." <...>

"Russians, even after glasnost, are comfortable with an authoritarian style," he said. "That wouldn't work in the United States."

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http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/08/12/19989091-religious-right-leader-backs-russian-crackdown-on-gay-rights


Pretty easy after the USAID twitter thing in Cuba. /nt jakeXT Apr 2014 #1
I love all these ProSense Apr 2014 #5
National Endowment For Democracy is a US govt-funded front org cprise Apr 2014 #2
I Doubt You Can Back That Figure Up, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #3
Yes, Nuland is the source, though I mispoke re NED being 'the' instrument cprise Apr 2014 #4
Yes, Sir, You Mis-Spoke, To A Degree Which Calls Into Question If You Understand The Basics Here The Magistrate Apr 2014 #10
He doth protest too much cprise Apr 2014 #17
I Describe, Sir, Not Protest The Magistrate Apr 2014 #18
Lets talk dates... cprise Apr 2014 #29
Riot Police Initiated Violence On 30 November, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #41
You are full of it. Beatup protesters is not cause for Regime Change. cprise Apr 2014 #43
Wait ProSense Apr 2014 #44
'Unsubstantiated claims' - sure cprise Apr 2014 #47
No, ProSense Apr 2014 #48
Flat denial with no mitigating facts. cprise Apr 2014 #50
All you've done is repeat: Leave Russia alone. n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #52
I'm saying your intepretation is based on the Cold Warrior drumbeat. n/t cprise Apr 2014 #53
Nonsense. You're searching for justification for your Russian apologia. n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #54
Your draconian take on the finance law fell apart, then changed the subject. n/t cprise Apr 2014 #57
Look at this thread: You started out with a bogus defense of legalized persecution ProSense Apr 2014 #58
You didn't like that reminder about US-backed NGOs I see. n/t cprise Apr 2014 #59
This Is Nonesense, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #60
Rioters initiated lethal violence-Dec. 2 cprise Apr 2014 #61
That, Sir, Was Priceless The Magistrate Apr 2014 #62
So condemning lethal force in response to beatings is 'support of police brutality'. cprise Apr 2014 #63
It Is Clear, Sir, You Have Never Given The Subject Much Thought The Magistrate Apr 2014 #64
So violence=violence, regardless of what kind. cprise Apr 2014 #65
Your Sputtering Is Noted, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #66
What does that have to do with Russia and the HRW report? n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #6
HRW is arguing a Libertarian Globalist view of NGO finance. cprise Apr 2014 #8
Again, ProSense Apr 2014 #9
I don't deny the anti-gay mindset there cprise Apr 2014 #45
See, ProSense Apr 2014 #46
Get back to me on Saudi Arabia, India, UAE, etc. sometime. cprise Apr 2014 #49
So you ProSense Apr 2014 #51
The rhetoric has descended to baby babble now cprise Apr 2014 #55
Right... ProSense Apr 2014 #56
Yes, we need is a similar law in the U.S. ProSense Apr 2014 #7
Also pine for the bankers who would be "rounded up" if Glass-Steagal cprise Apr 2014 #11
The fact is that Russian law impede human rights. ProSense Apr 2014 #13
Falling back on stale rhetoric? cprise Apr 2014 #19
"No doubt Russian laws 'impede' human rights ProSense Apr 2014 #20
That one line tautology cprise Apr 2014 #23
Says the person ProSense Apr 2014 #24
You can imagine that and bet it is happening treestar Apr 2014 #15
Does the US allow foreign governments to foment unrest in malaise Apr 2014 #12
Well, ProSense Apr 2014 #14
Yes, but its still possible to finance advocates in Russia cprise Apr 2014 #21
Ridiculous. ProSense Apr 2014 #22
Disclosure isn't persecution. Too bad for your 3rd Way bankers. n/t cprise Apr 2014 #25
You know damn well this isn't about "disclosure." n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #26
Yeah, it means increased skepticism. Again... too bad! cprise Apr 2014 #27
No, it means legalized persecution. ProSense Apr 2014 #28
How enlightening. n/t cprise Apr 2014 #30
Yes. treestar Apr 2014 #16
An undefeated bully wanders into the woods nilesobek Apr 2014 #31
Isn't that ProSense Apr 2014 #32
Isn't Palin a neo-con that makes nilesobek Apr 2014 #33
"Isn't Palin a neo-con that makes crazy and inaccurate alarmist statements about Russia?" ProSense Apr 2014 #34
Just seems like mockery, but do carry on. nilesobek Apr 2014 #35
No, just correlating bravado and inaccuracies. n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #36
I'm ok with any kind of constructive criticism. nilesobek Apr 2014 #37
Well, that ProSense Apr 2014 #38
And the jury results are in... aikoaiko Apr 2014 #42
You spliced two stories together nilesobek Apr 2014 #39
That makes four ridiculous comments. n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #40
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