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In reply to the discussion: For The Record: The NSA Spied on All Americans. It Is a Fact. [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)35. It reached the high court in 1979.
They ruled phone metadata is a run-of-the-mill business record that belongs to the phone company. To the person has no right to privacy regarding that. Just like you have no right to privacy over what you ordered at a local restaurant.
To actually have a right to privacy regarding phone metadata, we need a new law. Then it can be protected similar to medical records - which are run-of-the-mill business records, except they have a laws regarding disclosure.
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Welcome to DU!You actually consider that "not a problem" when the private sector collects your info?
villager
Apr 2014
#156
First of all, you do know that Wikileaks can be edited by anyone on the internet, right?
cui bono
Apr 2014
#13
Data bases are quite complicated,You type in a query and it returns the results
Dragonfli
Apr 2014
#78
Some apparently has a different fourth amendment, you know like Cliven Bundy,
Thinkingabout
Apr 2014
#47
I've seen that part of the hearing a number of times. Clapper answered the question truthfully.
George II
Apr 2014
#90
No one is entitled to their own "Facts" the fact is NSA spies and is spying on US all. Believe what
Vincardog
Apr 2014
#110
"have you noticed a flood of posters roughly 200 to 400 posts recently getting very animated in DU?"
Cali_Democrat
Apr 2014
#12
Getting that check every two weeks from Karl Rove helps keep perspective
MannyGoldstein
Apr 2014
#21
You can argue the unconstitutionality of a program before it reaches the high court.
ForgoTheConsequence
Apr 2014
#28
What evidence are you basing your certainty of "no they didnt" on? Are you absolutely certain?
rhett o rick
Apr 2014
#46
Baffled that anyone believes the NSA didn't spy on all Americans, and doesn't still.
Skip Intro
Apr 2014
#27
So Mr. Jeff, you seem to enjoy finding cracks in arguments (whether they are there or not)
hueymahl
Apr 2014
#163
The problem with attempting a "gotcha" is you have to actually be clever to pull it off.
jeff47
Apr 2014
#65
Blatant epic false equivalency. Phone companies are not looking for criminals and terrorists.
L0oniX
Apr 2014
#92
I agree with you that corporate collection of personal information is a problem.
Maedhros
Apr 2014
#120
Manny, You Are A Treasure Here, And This Place Wouldn't Be The Same Without You !!!
WillyT
Apr 2014
#72
I remember then talking about listening for certian words and then tracking those words. That would
jwirr
Apr 2014
#86
I was not the one who fist suggested that they spied on us using words. I do not remember where
jwirr
Apr 2014
#98
It is fact the NSA spied on all Americans. I would not presume Obama was going to state any
Jefferson23
Apr 2014
#134
It is a material fact, yes, may be a disputed fact by the NSA..that is different.
Jefferson23
Apr 2014
#138
People are sometimes uncomfortable with information,the scope of the Snowden leak has been riveting.
Jefferson23
Apr 2014
#146
just lurking, but that's a total fail on your part. You can't answer a simple question.
uhnope
Apr 2014
#164
"Why bother with an investigation and trial? He's guilty. I'm sure of it."
LanternWaste
Apr 2014
#143
The NSA and the CIA have been doing things they shouldn't have since 1947 (CIA) and 1952 (NSA).
Sarah Ibarruri
Apr 2014
#158