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In reply to the discussion: Snowden's revelations: thumbs up or down? [View all]bvar22
(39,909 posts)46. This Poll validates an observation by woo me with science from 2013:
The goal of the propaganda assaults across the internet is not to convince anyone of anything.
It is to thoroughly hijack, pollute and therefore eliminate public spaces where real discussion and organization can occur. Occupy is disbanded with clubs and pepper spray. Dissent and organization online are disrupted with surveillance and propaganda.
It is no accident that propaganda brigades post new threads on discussion boards far out of proportion to their presence in the community, and that they nearly *always* demand the last word in any interchange.
The goal is to disrupt the important public space for liberal thought, discussion, and organization that these boards offer, and to keep the participants busy instead batting off the corporate lies and talking points.
woo me with science Sun Jul 28, 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023359801
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which one's? domestic phone metadata or US spying activities against china? big difference
arely staircase
Apr 2014
#1
right. and you don't distinguish between two very different things he revealed
arely staircase
Apr 2014
#6
not really Manny, I find she can erect one hell of a straw man as well when inspired.
Dragonfli
Apr 2014
#15
+1, but but... there's no proof (other than Snowdens words) that he gave to China!!!!
uponit7771
Apr 2014
#11
C'mon Manny. We can be totally glad AND hope he rots the rest of his life in jail.
Luminous Animal
Apr 2014
#2
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people
msanthrope
Apr 2014
#47
Hell yes! 84 votes (as of 10:22 am) on an internet message board poll ... TOTAL VINDICATION!
11 Bravo
Apr 2014
#38
Greenwald did not win a Pulitzer. And he won't be accepting it for the Guardian. The people
msanthrope
Apr 2014
#48
you keep insisting that release to the media absolves Snowdon of criminal liability.
msanthrope
Apr 2014
#55
How about some national polls? Looks like the American people support Snowden overwhelmingly
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#51
Out in the real world, Snowden's support continues to drop and it was never that high to begin with
Number23
Apr 2014
#62
what matters more is what people in leadership positions think, how they lobby,
pragmatic_dem
Apr 2014
#71
Well yes because there are two ways and two ways only he could have done it. nt
el_bryanto
Apr 2014
#49
Spot on. All of the pissing matches convince no one, but do stop us from reaching a point when we
GoneFishin
Apr 2014
#50