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el_bryanto

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49. Well yes because there are two ways and two ways only he could have done it. nt

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Tue Apr 22, 2014, 12:29 PM

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Snowden's revelations: thumbs up or down? [View all] MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 OP

which one's? domestic phone metadata or US spying activities against china? big difference arely staircase Apr 2014 #1

This poll isn't about Snowden. MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #5

right. and you don't distinguish between two very different things he revealed arely staircase Apr 2014 #6

Again with the personal attacks. MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #7

Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #12

Are the results what you expected? MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #14

Really? They are still dragging that "only Meta Data" horse carcass around? GoneFishin Apr 2014 #33

The people still posting that disproved BS certainly KNOW it by now, bvar22 Apr 2014 #40

You play victim very well. KittyWampus Apr 2014 #36

not really Manny, I find she can erect one hell of a straw man as well when inspired. Dragonfli Apr 2014 #15

I've always wanted to go to Burning Man MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #22

Crying "Personal Attack" is not an answer psiman May 2014 #74

+1, but but... there's no proof (other than Snowdens words) that he gave to China!!!! uponit7771 Apr 2014 #11

Horrid billhicks76 Apr 2014 #21

C'mon Manny. We can be totally glad AND hope he rots the rest of his life in jail. Luminous Animal Apr 2014 #2

Edward Snowden, Patriot nationalize the fed Apr 2014 #3

Whoop, there it is! NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #8

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people msanthrope Apr 2014 #47

+1000 snot Apr 2014 #17

nice! nt grasswire Apr 2014 #19

^^^What NYC_SKP said^^^ pacalo Apr 2014 #25

But we knew or at least strongly suspected most of it any way ? nt Nobel_Twaddle_III Apr 2014 #4

NSA and courts which permit this spying are the enemies... Mondavi Apr 2014 #9

OTHER - overt traitors suck? tia uponit7771 Apr 2014 #10

what does Elizabeth Warren think JI7 Apr 2014 #13

That's a really good question. MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #16

Jimmy Carter, Bernie Sanders and more ProSense Apr 2014 #37

bernie sanders says he "violated his oath" ? arely staircase Apr 2014 #56

Manny, the flies are all over you; first to land. But snot Apr 2014 #18

As the vindication keeps rolling in dougolat Apr 2014 #20

Hell yes! 84 votes (as of 10:22 am) on an internet message board poll ... TOTAL VINDICATION! 11 Bravo Apr 2014 #38

Well, the Highest Pulitzer Award possible.... For Public Service... bvar22 Apr 2014 #44

Greenwald did not win a Pulitzer. And he won't be accepting it for the Guardian. The people msanthrope Apr 2014 #48

That is a weasel out AND a transparent attempt to have it both ways. bvar22 Apr 2014 #52

you keep insisting that release to the media absolves Snowdon of criminal liability. msanthrope Apr 2014 #55

Please post a cite where I have said that: bvar22 Apr 2014 #57

How about some national polls? Looks like the American people support Snowden overwhelmingly sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #51

Out in the real world, Snowden's support continues to drop and it was never that high to begin with Number23 Apr 2014 #62

Even after BP dumped millions of gallons of oil into Gulf.. apologists pragmatic_dem Apr 2014 #23

Did you look at the results of Mannys poll? nt. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #43

what matters more is what people in leadership positions think, how they lobby, pragmatic_dem Apr 2014 #71

K&R n/t NealK Apr 2014 #24

Thumbs up! elias49 Apr 2014 #26

...^ that 840high Apr 2014 #41

I prefer to know what I'm dealing blue14u Apr 2014 #27

Snowden revealed what society has endured for centuries polynomial Apr 2014 #28

I think we need to look forward. nt bemildred Apr 2014 #29

The minority is as vocal as it is unpopular and unpersuasive Otelo Apr 2014 #30

What do the majority of American believe? ProSense Apr 2014 #31

Any party breakdown or ideological breakdown? Otelo Apr 2014 #59

I wish he had done it differently in some respects el_bryanto Apr 2014 #32

It he had "done it differently", bvar22 Apr 2014 #45

Well yes because there are two ways and two ways only he could have done it. nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #49

Actually, there ARE only two ways. bvar22 Apr 2014 #53

Love the disclosure of the illegal domestic surveillance MohRokTah Apr 2014 #34

I wonder how much the NSA spends to propagandize on the web? GoneFishin Apr 2014 #35

Glad he did, and don't particularly care why. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #39

Results are exactly as I would expect on du. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #42

This Poll validates an observation by woo me with science from 2013: bvar22 Apr 2014 #46

Spot on. All of the pissing matches convince no one, but do stop us from reaching a point when we GoneFishin Apr 2014 #50

Bingo! Scuba May 2014 #73

Slightly more positive than negative. JoePhilly Apr 2014 #54

They won't result in reform. joshcryer Apr 2014 #58

On the whole, I wish he'd done things differently. pnwmom Apr 2014 #60

Your post is misleading, and far from being truthful. bvar22 Apr 2014 #63

There is no effective difference between handing over files to a Chinese newspaper pnwmom Apr 2014 #64

Sure there is. bvar22 Apr 2014 #65

You do know that China is hacking into our computers every single minute? pnwmom Apr 2014 #67

My Mother always said, bvar22 Apr 2014 #68

This discussion is not about justifying torture. pnwmom Apr 2014 #69

Once again, bvar22 Apr 2014 #70

Are there NSA agents on this board? nilesobek Apr 2014 #61

Thumbs Up bigwillq Apr 2014 #66

Kick & Rec L0oniX May 2014 #72