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Cal Carpenter

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1. It was a rather bipartisan effort, iirc

Sun May 18, 2014, 06:43 PM

May 2014

No point in pretending that many elected Dems didn't happily go along for the ride, including repeating the lies and rhetoric that were used to sell the war to the public.

I wouldn't put the lion's share of blame on the Dems, but it wasn't just a Republican war.

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New GOP talking point: it was the Democrats who lied us into war with Iraq [View all] Rocknrule May 2014 OP

It was a rather bipartisan effort, iirc Cal Carpenter May 2014 #1

A mouse turd size of effort compared to elephant WhiteTara May 2014 #5

thank you…. dhill926 May 2014 #7

Okay, and actions speak louder than words Cal Carpenter May 2014 #8

And those votes were not at all influenced jeff47 May 2014 #11

The drum beat was relentless and the attacks on WhiteTara May 2014 #14

Agreed. Thanks, WhiteTara. n/t freshwest May 2014 #24

The war happened for three main reasons IMHO: Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #43

The warmongering was bipartisan Jesus Malverde May 2014 #18

Joe Lieberman was only technically a democrat WhiteTara May 2014 #36

democrats were the ones lied into supporting the bullshit. spanone May 2014 #40

i remember this... SummerSnow May 2014 #2

I'm convinced ... lpbk2713 May 2014 #3

It's a talking point shared by many of the anti-Democrat DUers, too. baldguy May 2014 #4

Yes I see that up above Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2014 #9

They are rewriting history... butterfly77 May 2014 #6

So Monkey Bush Was a Democrat Wolf Frankula May 2014 #10

When is Obama going to apologize for allowing those airliners to crash into the World Trade Center? tclambert May 2014 #12

Got any pointers to where you are hearing that? Count me skeptical. n/t fleabiscuit May 2014 #13

Hearing this a lot lately where? (I do not expect an answer.) Luminous Animal May 2014 #15

I actually heard something like this not too long ago at work. xmas74 May 2014 #19

Holy bat guano, Batman! Art_from_Ark May 2014 #41

The best thing to do is to never, ever engage him in discussion besides xmas74 May 2014 #42

One especially cynical neuron is firing that this may be a future useful op to bookmark. n/t fleabiscuit May 2014 #20

I promised myself... Bigmack May 2014 #16

The war mongering was bipartisan. Jesus Malverde May 2014 #17

+10000000 Particularly when you ALSO then entrench, justify, and expand woo me with science May 2014 #22

and now even bringing up IWR will be "playing into the GOP's hands" MisterP May 2014 #23

Hillary and Kerry voted for it because they thought it politically expedient. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #21

Either way, they were at fault -- but less so than Shrub and the gang Jim Lane May 2014 #25

Not as bad? They voted for, and in Hillary's case, supported Bush's wars. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #27

Bush was still the principal instigator. Jim Lane May 2014 #29

I remember Colin Powell's speech at the U.N. oldandhappy May 2014 #26

War is peace. Truth is lies. It's 30 years after 1984, written in 1948 to show merrily May 2014 #28

You're mixing up your dystopias. Jim Lane May 2014 #30

I haven't heard that. Do you have some links? cali May 2014 #31

Pushing toothpaste back into the tube Zambero May 2014 #32

This isn't a new talking point per se Kalidurga May 2014 #33

Just practice for doublethink, demanded daily of us by propagandists. woo me with science May 2014 #34

Yeah, your probably right both sides do a bit of that flipping Kalidurga May 2014 #38

Wonderful post. nt Demo_Chris May 2014 #45

This theory is delusional Gothmog May 2014 #35

Cheney/Bush was the perpetrator, but many Dems were complicit. Martin Eden May 2014 #37

What's even worse is they pretend 9/11 didn't happen on their watch. n/t pnwmom May 2014 #39

The Iraq war started in 1990. Why Syzygy May 2014 #44