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In reply to the discussion: Suppose an outside group wanted to render DU ineffective [View all]Zorra
(27,670 posts)46. Using propaganda techniques for one thing.
Recognizing Propaganda Techniques and Errors of Faulty Logic
Propaganda and Debating Techniques
The main similarity between Republican and Third Way conservative trolls. IMO, is that they both support laissez faire capitalism. They might not express this directly, but sometimes it's what someone never says that reveals their agenda. But this does not mean Third Way/Republican trolls won't bald faced lie about their real beliefs if it becomes necessary.
Corporatists will slowly try to move the Democratic party to the right, knowing that naive Dems won't even notice how far right we've moved.
Propaganda and Debating Techniques
The main similarity between Republican and Third Way conservative trolls. IMO, is that they both support laissez faire capitalism. They might not express this directly, but sometimes it's what someone never says that reveals their agenda. But this does not mean Third Way/Republican trolls won't bald faced lie about their real beliefs if it becomes necessary.
The global power of the financial centers is so great, that they can afford not to worry about the political tendency of those who hold power in a nation, if the economic program (in other words, the role that nation has in the global economic megaprogram) remains unaltered. The financial disciplines impose themselves upon the different colors of the world political spectrum in regards to the government of any nation. The great world power can tolerate a leftist government in any part of the world, as long as the government does not take measures that go against the needs of the world financial centers. But in no way will it tolerate that an alternative economic, political, and social organization consolidate. For the megapolitics, the national politics are dwarfed and submit to the dictates of the financial centers....
http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/mexico/ezln/1997/jigsaw.html
http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/mexico/ezln/1997/jigsaw.html
Corporatists will slowly try to move the Democratic party to the right, knowing that naive Dems won't even notice how far right we've moved.
"Democrats moving to the middle is a double disaster that alienates the party's progressive base while simultaneously sending a message to swing voters that the other side is where the good ideas are.' It unconsciously locks in the notion that the other side's positions are worth moving toward, while your side's positions are the ones to move away from. Plus every time you move to the center, the right just moves further to the right." ~ George Lakoff
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as you can see it's been covered extensively: ladder rescues, momma bear rescues, ranger rescues
Voice for Peace
May 2014
#105
Yes. The pet posts obviously have destroyed DU as we knew it. Not the fanatics.
Katashi_itto
May 2014
#59
Ask the next thousand...no, *ten* thousand people if they've ever even heard of DU.
Ikonoklast
May 2014
#88
They would probably attack a sitting Democratic president as relentlessly as they could. nt
Cali_Democrat
May 2014
#10
Also beat up a prospective Presidential nominee and say they'd never vote for him/her....
brooklynite
May 2014
#18
Yep....and they'd say that they'd rather overturn the election of Obama than the election of Reagan:
Cali_Democrat
May 2014
#33
because the supreme court matters more to those SJWs and men care about money more!
bettyellen
May 2014
#43
creatively clever ways telling women to shut up, by suggesting it is outside forces.....
seabeyond
May 2014
#23
ah. ya see. chooky the thing? start with a nasty "vicitm" insult and i am done reading.
seabeyond
May 2014
#51
1.Hi-jack liberal leaning threads by making detrimental assertions about the OP
BuelahWitch
May 2014
#25
Relentless smearing of anyone who opposes them or their agenda or their candidates.
Vattel
May 2014
#41
they might start by rhetorically separating Dems into fictional, contrived groups
bigtree
May 2014
#49
Or picking a candidate that isn't running and promote them as the only pure choice...
FSogol
May 2014
#55
Same gender or race non-candidate of the front runner, to be most effective. nt
msanthrope
May 2014
#65
Nailed it. But not before creating a non-existent "schism" between the candidate that isn't running
Number23
May 2014
#114
Look out for people who use PR buzzwords like "third wayers" in an attempt to divide Democrats. nt
tridim
May 2014
#54
Relentlessly push disaffected/Libertarian white, overprivileged males as the example we should
msanthrope
May 2014
#66
Can't answer the question - all the more reason to: DEPLOY THE TINFOIL HATS NOW!
yellowcanine
May 2014
#69
They've tried many, many times before Manny. You've been here long enough to know that.
Avalux
May 2014
#74
Wars breaking out on issues that were previously mostly sane discussions at the DU. People
applegrove
May 2014
#87
If the station doesn't have an outdoor socket, a nearby place probably does
struggle4progress
May 2014
#98
It's obvious. They'd start by turning everyone against each other, as many other...
Shandris
May 2014
#99
We at Mirt do our best to get rid of the new trolls that clog up the system.
hrmjustin
May 2014
#101
I'd watch for threads about Benghogyny or Misghazi! Dead giveaways, both of 'em!
11 Bravo
May 2014
#108