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A well regulated Militia, [View all] MannyGoldstein May 2014 OP

Too many guns in this nation. hrmjustin May 2014 #1

As a matter of fact -- Yes. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #2

When are all the old gun fanciers gonna turn in their gunz? Hoyt May 2014 #3

"When are all the old gun fanciers gonna turn in their gunz?" Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #4

If you are using your definition of militia, at 46 you are out and women Hoyt May 2014 #5

First, it's not MY definition; it's federal law Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #9

I seem to recall someone named The Straight Story May 2014 #10

Nice contribution; not just for the current debate but female empowerment in general. TY n/t Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #12

interesting, so congress can change the meaning of the constitutional term "militia" at any time? unblock May 2014 #33

Perhaps. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #35

I thought DC V. HELLER struck down the National Guard argument derby378 May 2014 #37

It did. But some still continue to insist militia-or-nothing. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #39

Most of the states have a militia requirement written into their Constitutions. former9thward May 2014 #51

neither state nor federal law trumps the constitution. unblock May 2014 #52

The Constitution does not outlaw militias. former9thward May 2014 #56

really not understanding that, it seems quite circular. unblock May 2014 #57

Not to speak for Former9th but -- Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #59

all i'm trying to say is: unblock May 2014 #62

I can see your point. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #64

"Well regulated" Doesn't that mean there can be regulations and limits put on doc03 May 2014 #6

You are right...the 2nd amendment needs updating... davidn3600 May 2014 #7

The Constitution DOES mention "press," and yet here we are...nt Eleanors38 May 2014 #25

I believe "well regulated" at the time madville May 2014 #42

And the RKBA is recognized as that of "the people," Eleanors38 May 2014 #8

I think you should read Joe Nocera's OpEd in the NYT today. He pushes back on CTyankee May 2014 #11

"Rather than a right, it was an obligation...another thing entirely" Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #16

I've read this and similar essays, both in DU & elsewhere. Eleanors38 May 2014 #18

Well, to me it's another way of looking at the same language that you look at. CTyankee May 2014 #43

Gun control is a losing issue for Democrats. Laelth May 2014 #13

I agree with the thrust of your argument, but am a Eleanors38 May 2014 #23

Thanks for the thoughtful response. Laelth May 2014 #26

I read your other post as well & need to think about some Eleanors38 May 2014 #29

Blush. Laelth May 2014 #31

agree with Eleanor -- you raise some good points and articulate them well maggiesfarmer May 2014 #48

Thank you. n/t Laelth May 2014 #49

OK, Erase Gun Control DonCoquixote May 2014 #55

Gun control may be a moral and ethical issue. Laelth May 2014 #61

Just take a look at this picture: Laelth May 2014 #60

Both the president and the Democratic party platform say the 2A protects an individual right hack89 May 2014 #14

"Prussia is not a state that has an army, but an army that has a state." Mirabeau Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #15

A s good a reason to adopt the Swiss model as any. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #17

Or, disarm them all. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #20

How? Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #21

Make it a felony to possess a firearm. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #36

And when that fails spectacularly? Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #40

The same as always. *Shrug* and be amazed at what people will accept. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #45

"the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." frankieallen May 2014 #19

Just like the NRA, you leave out the "well-regulated militia" part napkinz May 2014 #22

I don't agree..... frankieallen May 2014 #30

the fact that you would exclude/delete HALF of the Second Amendment told me all I need to know napkinz May 2014 #41

Then why did they throw in that part about the militia? There is no such language in CTyankee May 2014 #44

I don't know why they put it in there, too bad we can't ask them. frankieallen May 2014 #50

Yes, it is called the Bill or Rights but here I can understand why they thought CTyankee May 2014 #53

It's only a part of the "well-regulated militia" MAIN POINT. WinkyDink May 2014 #32

nothing in the constitution stands by itself. unblock May 2014 #54

When every person is an "army of one" you no longer have a civilized society. Skidmore May 2014 #24

I don't know, the Swiss seem pretty civilized. Eleanors38 May 2014 #28

There's a bit more involved: their militia requirements; their homogeneity; their history of war- WinkyDink May 2014 #34

they put more restrictions on guns than you would probably accept... CTyankee May 2014 #46

When has it ever been illegal for a Jenoch May 2014 #27

A Well Regulated Militia Wolf Frankula May 2014 #38

Hi! I carry a gun around in public, but not because I constantly question my manhood. Rex May 2014 #47

I think well-regulated militias should drink prune juice twice a day LiberalEsto May 2014 #58

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Acts_of_1792 joeybee12 May 2014 #63

... napkinz May 2014 #65