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Demeter

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14. He's more articulate...or reads the teleprompter better, at least

Thu May 29, 2014, 08:38 PM

May 2014

and he's demonstrably poorer. But his grandchildren will have caught up.

But as for policy, no, there's no difference. Same PNAC foreign policy, same Rubinite economic policy, same laisse-faire women's rights policy, same safe-harbor seeking (c'mon, is anyone FOR concussions?).

We was had.

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"The Hard Left are no different than the Hard Right" [View all] MannyGoldstein May 2014 OP

"When the Right "swiftboated" Kerry, they made up lies and used these lies to attack Kerry." ProSense May 2014 #1

If you hate the left so much, why are you here in DU. Supposedly this is a message board for the rhett o rick May 2014 #43

+10000 MissDeeds May 2014 #65

Make DU into one big BOG-like message board. Encourage the liberals, lefties, rhett o rick May 2014 #70

Pro sense usually makes no sense. hobbit709 May 2014 #69

You think it makes "sense" to agree with information that is inaccurate? ProSense May 2014 #87

A very good point! Raksha May 2014 #75

What "left"? ProSense May 2014 #88

I disagree with the conservative ideology whether is comes from a Republican or rhett o rick May 2014 #94

She's here to promote Obama lark May 2014 #97

Which 'facts' regarding what constitutes the Left are you disputing? Is it the issues, is it sabrina 1 May 2014 #85

Yeah I thought was was sad too...yet the very same people will rail against anyone Rex May 2014 #2

Maybe because they don't attend the DC cocktail parties. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #27

PARTIES NOT SAME, LEFT RIGHT SAME, REPEAT REPEAT REPEAT carolinayellowdog May 2014 #38

Yeah strange stuff really. The parties are not the same, but the extreme ends are just alike. Rex May 2014 #118

I remember the good old days, when it was the Republicans that demonized "Liberal." Maedhros May 2014 #3

Absolutely Art_from_Ark May 2014 #5

I'd add "Anti-American" or "Blame America First" to that list. JoeyT May 2014 #7

Anyone who uses the "Blame America First" line is just Glenn Beck in disguise [n/t] Maedhros May 2014 #45

This! G_j May 2014 #15

Anything left of Joe McCarthy is the hard left. alfredo May 2014 #30

the good old days n/t reddread May 2014 #34

...^ that 840high May 2014 #36

Middle dem is republican lite. Ed Suspicious May 2014 #39

Is it even still "lite" anymore? villager May 2014 #73

the word is ideologue and it fits many on DU perfectly. Many are clueless on how politics KittyWampus May 2014 #40

Here's how it works. If you disparage the left THEN YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT. rhett o rick May 2014 #44

If you embrace supply side trickle down economics and austerity measures, you ain't no Democrat. Enthusiast May 2014 #50

Good lists Rhett-o-Rick and Enthusiast lark May 2014 #100

And add to the lists that anyone who supports ANY cuts to SS and Medicare, under any guise - chained kath May 2014 #103

LOL BrotherIvan May 2014 #46

Politics works this way, in this country anyhow. We have two parties, one represents the sabrina 1 May 2014 #98

In my opinion, DU is not about how politics works. JDPriestly May 2014 #105

+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast May 2014 #51

Excellent post MissDeeds May 2014 #67

That's ridiculous. Blanks May 2014 #91

The "no difference between the two parties" line is problematic. Maedhros May 2014 #93

One of the reasons that the party has moved to the right... Blanks May 2014 #107

I disagree. Maedhros May 2014 #108

Voters think they've moved to the right... Blanks May 2014 #113

Nah, I don't agree. Maedhros May 2014 #115

Are you familiar with the majority that the democrats had... Blanks May 2014 #117

I'm proud to call myself hard left or far left. lark May 2014 #99

There is little room for ideology in today's Party. Maedhros May 2014 #101

The Dem party is not fond of us lefties. lark May 2014 #102

The Third Way's motto: "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" [n/t] Maedhros May 2014 #104

+100000 nt noiretextatique May 2014 #110

Third Way "Democrats" LIE. Every day, every way. Don't trust ANYTHING they say. No way! blkmusclmachine May 2014 #4

You wouldn't trust a Republican would you? SwankyXomb May 2014 #23

I stopped trusting Third Way Democrats a long time ago. Raksha May 2014 #76

By any reasonable standard, I'm barely left of center. dawg May 2014 #6

F it. PowerToThePeople May 2014 #8

Welcome to the club.......... socialist_n_TN May 2014 #10

That's the hard truth of it, and the hardest concept to convey to most Democrats. Maedhros May 2014 #95

you have nothing to lose but your chains... KG May 2014 #18

Ya know...at first I thought you were being facetious... Raksha May 2014 #77

Corporatists and generational Oligarchs on both sides of the isle PowerToThePeople May 2014 #78

Great post, Manny Oilwellian May 2014 #9

This is what I've been waiting for--you could even say living for. Raksha May 2014 #80

Unfortunately, which Parties are allowed to exist and which ones wither and die Maedhros May 2014 #96

"Barack Obama is no different than George Bush." baldguy May 2014 #11

He's more articulate...or reads the teleprompter better, at least Demeter May 2014 #14

Wonderful! A teleprompter reference! Now I don't have to listen to FoxNews ... 11 Bravo May 2014 #21

Heh, with the accompanying toon Bobbie Jo May 2014 #35

teleprompter? Says it all about you. Same PNAC policy? So what about Syria. Pathetic post. KittyWampus May 2014 #41

The people of the UK and the US stopped the march to war in Syria. morningfog May 2014 #42

I'll give Obama credit for understanding he had no popular support for that. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #47

Exactly! Raksha May 2014 #81

True! MannyGoldstein May 2014 #16

better tippers per all the hookers I've met n/t reddread May 2014 #12

of course Dems advocating GOP policies will say anyone against them is an infiltrator MisterP May 2014 #13

"fair taxation of the wealthy - repealing the other two-thirds of the Bush tax cuts" ProSense May 2014 #17

Questions: MannyGoldstein May 2014 #37

I see you didn't answer my question ProSense May 2014 #53

There is no hard left of any stature in the US. MrModerate May 2014 #19

Centrist Exceptionalism DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #20

+1. The center is not the same as the middle. winter is coming May 2014 #25

Nice phrasing! MFrohike May 2014 #32

Let's not forget, Hilary Clinton, our next president, was a Goldwater Republican. YUK! YOHABLO May 2014 #22

Still is. Fearless May 2014 #31

Yup, she still is. You're right about that. Raksha May 2014 #83

And hear I am stuck in the middle with you zeemike May 2014 #24

It IS to the Beltway. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #26

Recall the quote attributed to Adlai Stevenson Simeon Salus May 2014 #28

That was a good one. Enthusiast May 2014 #49

Still a good one but it needs to be updated a bit: Raksha May 2014 #84

Is this comrade eddie are benghazi thread? stonecutter357 May 2014 #29

Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious May 2014 #33

Way to go, Manny! Enthusiast May 2014 #48

Exactly!!! djean111 May 2014 #52

Yes. Enthusiast May 2014 #56

Yeah, "way to go, Manny!" ProSense May 2014 #55

? Enthusiast May 2014 #57

LOL! ProSense May 2014 #58

My bad, it should be 82% not two-thirds MannyGoldstein May 2014 #74

Really? ProSense May 2014 #86

Sadly Egnever May 2014 #112

BTW, that bill extend long-term unemployment benefits for one year. ProSense May 2014 #89

You forgot to add "When blaming everything on Obama" berni_mccoy May 2014 #54

I don't think our tent is too big, it's just the wrong shape. Scuba May 2014 #59

That's right. It ought to be shaped like that cute picture of Obama playing with puppies. beerandjesus May 2014 #61

Nothing else matters. Scuba May 2014 #62

Whoa, policy? You must be HARD left. beerandjesus May 2014 #64

Yes, I'm one of Rahm's "fucking retards". Scuba May 2014 #66

Good thread Capt. Obvious May 2014 #60

"the Left" has been a convenient straw bogeyman for generations carolinayellowdog May 2014 #63

Spot on MissDeeds May 2014 #68

Me, I want *unfair* taxation for the rich. malthaussen May 2014 #71

According to the rightwingers here who are busily recalibrating "the center," Hubert Humphrey villager May 2014 #72

I thought it was obvious donco May 2014 #79

Stop making sense! LiberalLovinLug May 2014 #82

damn right noiretextatique May 2014 #90

Mainstream-Center FDR/LBJ Democrat here, bvar22 May 2014 #92

Also, wanting to scrap the for-profit school experime and go back to public schools is "libertarian" Doctor_J May 2014 #106

Funny the correlation between tolerance and even embracing privatization of all sorts TheKentuckian May 2014 #120

I agree, Manny. We are not the 'hard left' but what's left of the middle PatrickforO May 2014 #109

why alienate your base? noiretextatique May 2014 #111

"repealing the other 82% of the Bush tax cuts" rock May 2014 #114

Sometimes I seriously doubt if some on DU even know the basics of our political system YoungDemCA May 2014 #116

K&R woo me with science May 2014 #119