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69. Appeals to Manliness Generally Rate Below Appeals to Patriotism

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Fri May 30, 2014, 03:57 PM

May 2014

in the scoundrel factor department.

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"Man Up". Can we get rid of that phrase? [View all] MannyGoldstein May 2014 OP

I'm gonna go with "Manny up." Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #1

Manny being Manny... AngryAmish May 2014 #25

"Snowden should Manny up" MannyGoldstein May 2014 #32

Lol, me too! n/t sabrina 1 May 2014 #35

I agree with you on a lot of stuff but not this. Bonhomme Richard May 2014 #2

Are you kidding Lee-Lee May 2014 #3

Just found it, thanks. MannyGoldstein May 2014 #4

Well, that's good news, isn't it? Just think, you can now, without fear of being attacked, sabrina 1 May 2014 #37

It would certainly be nice if people didn't get so keyed up over the occasional word MannyGoldstein May 2014 #70

A rare disagreement from me as well. It's a fine, well established phrase, and everyone knows quinnox May 2014 #5

Agree. randome May 2014 #9

Yep, it can be used with men or women. It has become a neutral term quinnox May 2014 #14

Except it really hasn't. NuclearDem May 2014 #19

Very well said. It is one way men are conditioned to feign invulnerability. redqueen May 2014 #29

+1 nt laundry_queen May 2014 #71

+1 nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #30

So are other words...like the "C" word zeemike May 2014 #49

So how would you feel if someone told you G_j May 2014 #17

Well, since it is impossible to make me feel insulted or bad about names or phrases... randome May 2014 #21

I don't care about these things either, but we have been exposed to extreme outrage over such sabrina 1 May 2014 #39

Well, I haven't been outraged at some of the 'hot topics' on DU of late. randome May 2014 #48

I wasn't referring to you. I'm fine and always have been, with the language and have argued FOR sabrina 1 May 2014 #51

I know you weren't referring to me. randome May 2014 #58

Oh okay! It is a memorable moment, so can't blame you for jumping on it! sabrina 1 May 2014 #68

I would correct them by saying "person up." Louisiana1976 May 2014 #57

How about "grow up"? nt. thucythucy May 2014 #82

What about using the word "pussy" as a pejorative, as in"ya bunch of pussies"? it's a "fine well- kath May 2014 #47

I also feel it's highly inappropriate. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #60

right, like "that's so gay." lighten up everybody. (sarcasm). nt TheFrenchRazor May 2014 #78

You won't get rid of that sentiment, even if you get rid of the phrase. Laelth May 2014 #6

I agree. Language influences our thoughts. nt redqueen May 2014 #7

Don't be a Momma's boy RobertEarl May 2014 #8

My momma could kick your ass, RobertEarl. hunter May 2014 #28

That assumes we all agree on what it means to be a "man" BrotherIvan May 2014 #31

In the context of imploring someone to be one, it is meaningless. redqueen May 2014 #34

Yes BrotherIvan May 2014 #36

What does it mean to be a man? RobertEarl May 2014 #84

No, there's nothing wrong with being a man. That's a ridiculous strawman. NuclearDem May 2014 #43

It isn't offensive unless it's addressed to a woman tularetom May 2014 #10

In complete disagreement with you about it. TexasTowelie May 2014 #22

It appeals to the non-rational mass public. OnyxCollie May 2014 #11

lol, you read my mind. I hate the phrase "grow a pair" quinnox May 2014 #13

I've been wondering what the point was of Kerry doing a press tour BrotherIvan May 2014 #33

Agree. It's a stupid sexist phrase. NuclearDem May 2014 #12

Anyone who uses it is a stupid putz. JVS May 2014 #15

Am I "manning up" if I punch someone in the face for using that phrase? hunter May 2014 #16

No. You are creating a "Man Down" situation. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #67

There are a ton of them. trotsky May 2014 #18

How about: "Where's your balls, Boy?" nt bemildred May 2014 #20

It kills me that having balls is associated with any kind of strength or toughness, Jamastiene May 2014 #73

That's right. Just try slamming them in a utiltity drawer by accident some time, while you're in the Warren DeMontague May 2014 #77

That's what I mean. Jamastiene May 2014 #80

Indeed. If I was designing the English language from scratch, I would make significant changes. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #81

It is ridiculous. bemildred May 2014 #79

I never liked it either TorchTheWitch May 2014 #23

Please. n/t Orsino May 2014 #24

Strange request for someone called Manny NV Whino May 2014 #26

Nope JustAnotherGen May 2014 #27

I have no problem with it, and I'm female. JaneyVee May 2014 #38

I'm reminded of manhole covers being classed a politically incorrect dipsydoodle May 2014 #40

Is "cowboy up" still okay? bluedigger May 2014 #41

Yes. 840high May 2014 #42

But how will we teach men to be cannon fodder? We are just now getting around to including the women jtuck004 May 2014 #44

Good one. kath May 2014 #50

I prefer 'Chick up' Garion_55 May 2014 #45

there was a long assed thread on the matter.... Sheepshank May 2014 #46

I completely agree, "Man-up" suggests that men should not allow themselves to have feelings.... DrewFlorida May 2014 #52

Good answer, actually. Jamastiene May 2014 #74

I don't say "man up" but I refuse to give up "lighten up". Jim Lane May 2014 #85

K&R, Manny. Enthusiast May 2014 #53

I don't like the phrase. boston bean May 2014 #54

I agree. It should be replaced with "person up." "Man up" is noninclusive of women. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #55

How about "suck it up"? Liberal Veteran May 2014 #59

That's better. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #64

I've never used it myself Spirochete May 2014 #56

I think we should just get rid of the entire English language altogether. The_Commonist May 2014 #61

brilliant post. Adds a lot to the thread. kath May 2014 #66

For us Southern DUers - how about hiccup? wyldwolf May 2014 #62

I get where you're coming from War Horse May 2014 #63

Carlin has some great thoughts on language theaocp May 2014 #65

Not age, I don't think. Jamastiene May 2014 #75

Appeals to Manliness Generally Rate Below Appeals to Patriotism AndyTiedye May 2014 #69

"Grow up" is much better and can be applied to anyone Jamastiene May 2014 #72

Here's a video on the subject Nevernose May 2014 #76

the torture of Chelsea Manning makes it more ominous carolinayellowdog May 2014 #83