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DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
36. We embrace anti-intellectualism more than other
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 11:59 AM
Jun 2014

developed countries. Check the statistics on how many people in other developed countries doubt evolution or climate change. We're way up there. Or down there, as the case may be.

Edit: Here's one. In 2006, we were second to worst in terms of doubting evolution. Just above Turkey.

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2006/08/14/science/sciencespecial2/20050815_EVO_GRAPHIC.html

I bet we haven't improved since then.

Other countries have hateful rhetoric, racism; religious bigotry. General ignorance and tribalism are pretty universal.

But I don't see people in France or Denmark gaining nationwide constituencies based on the idea that scientists are lying to us about the age of the Earth or evolution.

It's a useful political tool -- holding the idea of hewing to completely irrational beliefs as a right. I think we're seeing it more and more because the things American conservatives want are harder and harder to justify.

If you can just throw out the entire notion of reason, you can justify anything you want. Like murdering cops in a pizza joint because government itself is some kind of evil conspiracy. It's not that big a leap from claiming tax cuts for the rich "pay for themselves" or that healthcare reform is a conspiracy to "kill Grandma."

Others do irrational, sure. But we're better at it than most.

Alex Jones should not be considered "mainstream" nt maryellen99 Jun 2014 #1
Who considers him to be mainstream?... DonViejo Jun 2014 #8
I don't think his "thinking" is considered "mainstream"... elzenmahn Jun 2014 #11
"a convenient figure for the media to smear anybody who dares to speak out" jberryhill Jun 2014 #18
WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU SAYING?? I think he is a traitor!! trueblue2007 Jun 2014 #30
so we can put you in the camp that believes this utter nonsense.. frylock Jun 2014 #33
perhaps you should H2O Man Jun 2014 #55
i've read it a few times, and my interpretation was that the poster believes Jones speaks the truth frylock Jun 2014 #57
I believe that Alex Jones is a convenient brush... elzenmahn Jun 2014 #59
thanks for the clarification.. frylock Jun 2014 #60
is this your way of saying barbtries Jun 2014 #37
Quite the opposite.... elzenmahn Jun 2014 #61
i can buy that barbtries Jun 2014 #66
Delusions with a loud megaphone IMO. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #2
Crazy mind, big megaphone, nothing more. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #3
Damn Ronald Reagan for shutting down the loony bins. lumpy Jun 2014 #63
"the conservative radio host said that his “mind exploded". sufrommich Jun 2014 #4
DUzy! riqster Jun 2014 #15
I'd like to know how he noticed LadyHawkAZ Jun 2014 #53
I didn't think he had one JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #54
I suspect the CIA C_U_L8R Jun 2014 #5
Your post presumes Jones ever " had it " , an incorrect premise in my opinion...nt pkdu Jun 2014 #6
Loses it? Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #7
Jones has tapped into the Power of Irrational Thinking. DirkGently Jun 2014 #9
Google this: SidneyR Jun 2014 #17
And Alex is one of it's chief practitioners in my view nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #20
I know the term. n/t DirkGently Jun 2014 #23
I thought maybe SidneyR Jun 2014 #25
Rather than just throw it down, I thought I'd expand on DirkGently Jun 2014 #29
Welcome to DU, SidneyR! calimary Jun 2014 #48
Or we could talk about it MORE DirkGently Jun 2014 #56
^^THIS^^ valerief Jun 2014 #46
I don't know why you think it's an American thing...every country has crackpots snooper2 Jun 2014 #24
Sometimes it seems that Americans SidneyR Jun 2014 #26
Well, if we were Russian on a Russian message board that Pootie hadn't taken down yet snooper2 Jun 2014 #27
We embrace anti-intellectualism more than other DirkGently Jun 2014 #36
Finally, a sensible explanation. Orrex Jun 2014 #10
I want to wish Alex Jones away to the corn field. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #12
Alex Jones lost it a long time ago. Arkana Jun 2014 #13
People like Alex Jones are the ones who set these nuts off. geomon666 Jun 2014 #14
Those aren't "Data Points" exploding in his mind maxrandb Jun 2014 #16
Yup, my watch works... nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #19
his “mind exploded with hundreds of data points” yellowcanine Jun 2014 #21
Jones and his ilk smallcat88 Jun 2014 #22
Alex Jones has a problem accepting that nyabingi Jun 2014 #28
None of the above. Alex Jones is a RW maniac who is a danger to the public. He fits the classic kelliekat44 Jun 2014 #31
i commented on this story on fb barbtries Jun 2014 #32
alex jones is a govt psyop.. frylock Jun 2014 #34
Jones is the PT Barnum of conspiracy theories.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #35
No Alex. YOU staged it. They were YOUR fans. SunSeeker Jun 2014 #38
Why VA_Jill Jun 2014 #39
Yes shenmue Jun 2014 #41
+1 Liberalynn Jun 2014 #51
You knew this was coming didn't you? ewagner Jun 2014 #40
It all makes perfect sense now! tclambert Jun 2014 #42
I think Alex Jones gets his CTs from Marvel Comics Jack Rabbit Jun 2014 #43
Superman and Batman are DC Comics. OnyxCollie Jun 2014 #52
I stand corrected Jack Rabbit Jun 2014 #58
Try not to be too dismissive of the literature Blue_Adept Jun 2014 #62
I know that Jack Rabbit Jun 2014 #64
Excelsior! OnyxCollie Jun 2014 #65
Jones & the rest just make stuff up rather than take responsibility. No matter how incredible. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2014 #44
What I hate is people like Alex Jones create a false exagerated reality LiberalLovinLug Jun 2014 #45
More like MK-MURDOCK. nt valerief Jun 2014 #47
It's irresponsible for the broadcasting company to allow someone like that to have a radio show BainsBane Jun 2014 #49
Alex Jones loses it? KamaAina Jun 2014 #50
Oh dear, poor delusional Alex jmowreader Jun 2014 #67
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