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87. the Democratic National Platform...

Fri Jun 27, 2014, 11:00 AM

Jun 2014

"Are there any bondaries (sic) to what constitutes a Democrat? If so, what are they?"

I'd imagine the obviously delineated and specific boundaries are all contained within the Democratic National Platform...

http://www.democrats.org/democratic-national-platform

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At what point is a self-proclaimed "Democrat" not a Democrat? [View all] MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 OP

Rule #1, there is no such animal as a DINO MohRokTah Jun 2014 #1

So if Ted Cruz or Louis Gohmert became Democrats, MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #3

Damned straight I'd be down with that. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #11

I'm sure we have members like them in the Democratic Party Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2014 #107

So, you would have voted for George Wallace. Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #16

Nope MohRokTah Jun 2014 #19

If you reject the majority of the platform, you have no place. joshcryer Jun 2014 #51

At one point a few years ago, a Dem congressman from the South Ken Burch Jun 2014 #63

I seem to recall 'independent' Lieberman got a lot of support Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #117

Does a Democrat support Ayn Rand's philosophy? JDPriestly Jun 2014 #64

with the way that the parties are shifting right-ward, I call myself more a "liberal" than "Democrat NRaleighLiberal Jun 2014 #2

I hear you! nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #8

I'm with you on that. I consider myself a Liberal who votes Democrat. bluesbassman Jun 2014 #45

Easy answer: when they vote for other-than-Democrats Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #4

So it's basically color war? MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #5

No Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #6

Seems like it's exactly color war MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #7

It seems like that because that's actually the argument being made. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #13

Right. So what makes a democrat? Is the only requirement "not republican?' Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #26

What makes a Democrat is the party ideology. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #30

Right. I think the point of the OP might be that the tent is too big. Does the third way represent Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #31

One can be a liberal/progressive/socialist and vote for non-Democrats, but pampango Jun 2014 #77

It's evolution. LWolf Jun 2014 #9

Move over - I am under the bus as well... NRaleighLiberal Jun 2014 #10

It's getting crowded under hear. LWolf Jun 2014 #21

I guess some are comfortable with the changing beliefs of the party. I certainly am not. I voted liberal_at_heart Jun 2014 #12

When they would have preferred that McCain had won instead of Obama...nt SidDithers Jun 2014 #14

What would have been different? leftstreet Jun 2014 #17

Supreme Court would look different. Nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #20

The SC that just said anti-abortion whacks can...nevermind leftstreet Jun 2014 #23

And we'd be fight 2 or 3 more wars. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #24

i think so. i do not know what will happen in iraq, but i think obama's history with these seabeyond Jun 2014 #29

Aca, doma. Betcha Syria, Libya would look different. Iraq and afg worse. Nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #22

The GOP could NEVER have passed mandated health insurance leftstreet Jun 2014 #25

And yet, Romney got something similar passed in Massachusetts Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #35

The GOP was hated in 2008 leftstreet Jun 2014 #37

And yet, the GOP bounced back in 2010 Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #40

i am sure those that have pre existing are not gonna really agree with you, you think? nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #43

It's a pretty complex situation Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #52

Took the Dems 2 yrs to make 'em viable again leftstreet Jun 2014 #48

Well, the Dems were able to establish 40 years of House control Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #55

It was cooked up by the far-right Heritage Foundation. nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #41

Don't ask, don't tell would still be in place KamaAina Jun 2014 #106

Right now, I prefer that Elizabeth Warren win, not Hillary Clinton. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #66

+1 Scuba Jun 2014 #69

... Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #96

... winter is coming Jun 2014 #15

When they're actually just an agent provocateur? frazzled Jun 2014 #18

When they never actually vote for Democrats and encourage other people not to do so. pnwmom Jun 2014 #27

Zell Miller. Liberal Veteran Jun 2014 #28

So the NJ Democratic leadership who endorsed Christie... MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #32

A fair point, but Miller crossed the line. And not endorsing a candidate is beside the point. Liberal Veteran Jun 2014 #34

Would include Debbie Wasserman Schultz? bvar22 Jun 2014 #91

When they change their registration. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #33

All I know is anyone who says "you must do this to be a Democrat" is full of crap quinnox Jun 2014 #36

Mistake #1 is trying to define what a Democrat is Gman Jun 2014 #38

Not voting for Democrats BainsBane Jun 2014 #39

So the NJ Democratic leadership who endorsed Christie... MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #42

At what point Jeff Rosenzweig Jun 2014 #44

Probably not until I take my dirt nap. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #46

I wouldn't look forward to that, personally. Jeff Rosenzweig Jun 2014 #53

Seems like there hasn't been a propitious time for 30 years MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #58

After the midterms four years ago was a very propitious time. Jeff Rosenzweig Jun 2014 #60

Four posts and Manny is already getting to you? bluesbassman Jun 2014 #47

You'll find my old journal here Jeff Rosenzweig Jun 2014 #59

I stand corrected and apologize for the jibe. bluesbassman Jun 2014 #61

I appreciate your kindness. Jeff Rosenzweig Jun 2014 #62

Hey Jeff! Number23 Jun 2014 #67

Jeff if you PM Skinner or Earlg Puglover Jun 2014 #71

When they register as something other than a democrat. LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #49

The moment they reject 51% of the platform. joshcryer Jun 2014 #50

I'd say when you sell yourself out to the oil industry and Wall Street. Cleita Jun 2014 #54

Took 54 posts but somebody finally got it right tularetom Jun 2014 #56

Giving or not giving speeches to Goldmann-Sachs does or does not make one a Democrat. Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #101

Well, it sort of works like this tularetom Jun 2014 #102

Watch your language here and get past the name calling. Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #103

Watch my language and get past the name calling? tularetom Jun 2014 #105

The name calling is over the top. Your actions judge you. Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #108

Why did I know.... bobGandolf Jun 2014 #68

+1 Scuba Jun 2014 #70

They were also the party of segregation and mostly anti-choice Hippo_Tron Jun 2014 #109

That was and is unfortunately in the South. Cleita Jun 2014 #110

Abortion prevents us from being competitive in a lot of western states we used to compete in Hippo_Tron Jun 2014 #113

They need to be informed, which means we need to get our media Cleita Jun 2014 #115

No question about that, many don't even have an internet connection Hippo_Tron Jun 2014 #121

DU would be a ghost town Puzzledtraveller Jun 2014 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2014 #65

Obviously when they ask whistler162 Jun 2014 #72

Tough Question... Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #73

Doesn't lend itself to a crystal clear answer, but... Tom Rinaldo Jun 2014 #74

And, Jane Hamsher and FDL were roundly trashed for it.... KoKo Jun 2014 #83

When you say they are not treestar Jun 2014 #75

Beat me by about 2 minutes. JoePhilly Jun 2014 #76

So if we refuse to recognize those who want to bring back slavery, MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #80

There is a shortage of straw in your area treestar Jun 2014 #99

Oh, a mind reader! MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #100

That depends on who is asking. MineralMan Jun 2014 #78

A long history of being a Republican and supporting some of the most deadly ignorant policies Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #79

Why are you in favor of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars? MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #81

You'll have to do better than that, Manny. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #84

Again: why do you embrace the Iraq and Afghanistan wars? MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #85

Your disregard for history and your snarky replies to extremely serious questions define you. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #88

If you voted for John Kerry, then you favor the Iraq and Afghanistan war, no? MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #89

When did your question to me transition to an attack on me? I'm not standing for office. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #90

I'm dealing just fine with the responses, I think. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #112

At this point it's mainly a color war to make you think there are two sides. polichick Jun 2014 #82

Modern Democrats are a powerful force for the economic Status Quo. Romulox Jun 2014 #86

the Democratic National Platform... LanternWaste Jun 2014 #87

I remember when 'color war' meant something else bigtree Jun 2014 #92

Manny I'm wearing the blue bandanna nilesobek Jun 2014 #93

When they vote for Reagan.... Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #94

It would be easier to mark the point at which they cease to be the left. Marr Jun 2014 #95

When I see a person promote the idea that an anti choice, anti gay activist should be the pattern Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #97

If you self-identify as a Democrat... yallerdawg Jun 2014 #98

They can get your vote that way. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #116

A better way to phrase the OP: Maedhros Jun 2014 #104

Actually, that wasn't what I meant. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #111

According to many people, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #114

Do you happen to have a link for that polling on young people? MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #118

Firefox is acting up on me, but do this google search. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #119

This gets me angry as hell MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #120