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63. The economy was flying. It shouldn't have been close enough to steal, lose or fuck up in any way.

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 12:53 AM

Jul 2014

FL wouldn't have mattered if Gore had won TN.

Need I remind you that Bush was a fucking idiot? Go watch a video of any of his speeches if you've blocked that out. He was a complete moron. It should not have been close.

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Gore not becoming President: whose fault? [View all] MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 OP

It was actually more than one thing Boudica the Lyoness Jun 2014 #1

The Supreme Court mainstreetonce Jun 2014 #4

Yes, if Al Gore had won his home state of Tennessee, Florida wouldn't have mattered. Electric Monk Jun 2014 #19

Tennessee was a little Florida when it came to vote fraud Samantha Jun 2014 #30

I don't believe voter fraud was to blame for Gore losing TN Reter Jun 2014 #39

Well, we will just have to disagree over this Samantha Jul 2014 #72

Why would he win that state? treestar Jul 2014 #97

Maybe because they elected him Senator earlier? HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #130

If nader didn't run Gore could have spent more time in TN instead of NM, WI, IA, and OR. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #102

Yes many factors, along with distorted media. gordianot Jun 2014 #14

Actually, the NRA via: W.VA and TN. nt kelliekat44 Jul 2014 #86

Yes, perfect storm treestar Jul 2014 #93

The American Electorate. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #2

The American electorate voted for Gore Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #17

No, they did not. Between 40 and 45% of the electorate didn't vote at all. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #38

Yes they did Art_from_Ark Jul 2014 #47

So the only people concerned enough to vote voted for Gore? Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #58

By your criteria, no president has ever won an election Art_from_Ark Jul 2014 #62

I suggested no such thing. I did say the electorate did not vote for Gore... Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #65

Put it this way-- the Americans who cast their votes in November 2000 preferred Gore Art_from_Ark Jul 2014 #66

WINNER! Cosmocat Jul 2014 #89

It was the butterfly ballot BainsBane Jun 2014 #3

Many things were to blame and fuck those who try to defend any of them JI7 Jun 2014 #5

Multiple, but Nader was a key. Without Nader, Gore wins. onehandle Jun 2014 #6

Gore did win. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2014 #11

BINGO!!! SCOTUS...to blame for stopping the recount. nt kelliekat44 Jul 2014 #88

Assuming Nader voters were Democrats AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #24

One half of one percent of them could have prevented Bush. onehandle Jun 2014 #25

Nader got 1% of Republican vote AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #29

LOL! onehandle Jun 2014 #37

1% is almost ZERO appeal AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #40

Oh, AgingAmerican! Maedhros Jul 2014 #105

Your reliance on party registration is ludicrous. Jim Lane Jul 2014 #112

13% of Democrats voted for Bush in Florida in 2000 AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #118

So bleeping what? Jim Lane Jul 2014 #119

Do the math AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #120

True. Far more than voted for Nader. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #133

Heh. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #127

No, he folded because he didn't want to see an open revolution in the Country Samantha Jun 2014 #42

Yeah, right AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #44

Open revolution, my ass. There was never any real chance of that. winter is coming Jul 2014 #57

There was no single culprit. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2014 #7

You might want to edit your post. There's a part in the middle where you appear to be winter is coming Jun 2014 #8

Translating...... "rim c;ao,omg tjat tjere os mpt dofferemce betweem" Electric Monk Jun 2014 #12

Thanks; that makes more sense. It was kind of like autocorrect on acid there for a while. n/t winter is coming Jun 2014 #16

yes sorry for the confusion. I'm posting from my hospital bed and my fingers no work so good. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2014 #20

Oh! Sorry; I didn't realize you were in the hospital. winter is coming Jun 2014 #23

Tomorrow or the day after, depending on the pain. Thanks. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2014 #41

I chose other because you didn't have the "corporate media" as a choice. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #9

Yeah, the corporate media certainly stunk to high heaven Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #27

"Al Gore claimed to have invented the Internet" Which I believe truly explains their vitriol toward Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #34

Al did NOT claim to invent the internet. Punkingal Jul 2014 #90

You should read the post you just replied to. winter is coming Jul 2014 #91

Precisely, that's the point of my post. n/t Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #94

+1000 LondonReign2 Jul 2014 #101

Thanks, LondonReign, I view the corporate media as the Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #103

Not Nader's fault. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2014 #10

You're right. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2014 #18

I think a reasonable case could be made Gore would have won NM, WI, IA, and OR by bigger margins hrmjustin Jul 2014 #108

FAR more Dems voted for Bush than Nader. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #134

And republicans voted for Gore. This is normal and happens every election. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #135

I voted Supreme Court but let us not forget that freak of nature, Marie Marie Jun 2014 #13

She was the bu$h campaign's co-chair in Florida Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #28

It was a number of things. . . Stargleamer Jun 2014 #14

+1. n/t winter is coming Jun 2014 #21

Al Gore. Shitty campaign n/t leftstreet Jun 2014 #22

Al Gore, decided to play lap dog BlueStreak Jul 2014 #54

I'm amazed that nobody's clicked "Gore" yet. He wasn't a good campaigner. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #26

He ran away from a "popular incumbent" Art_from_Ark Jul 2014 #55

That was stupid at the time and still seems stupid in retrospect. LeftyMom Jul 2014 #56

Gore won the popular vote Art_from_Ark Jul 2014 #59

The economy was flying. It shouldn't have been close enough to steal, lose or fuck up in any way. LeftyMom Jul 2014 #63

Reagan was a moron, too Art_from_Ark Jul 2014 #64

Bush being a fucking idiot was seen as a positive at that time JI7 Jul 2014 #69

Voters? moondust Jun 2014 #31

I didn't mean to vote three times for the Supreme Court Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2014 #32

The voters Mz Pip Jun 2014 #33

Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, Maedhros Jul 2014 #107

1, 2 & 3 G_j Jun 2014 #35

Supreme Court because they are supposed to uphold the law. Brother Jeb second McCamy Taylor Jun 2014 #36

4 and 5. nt LWolf Jun 2014 #43

USSC, BushCo. cronies, conservative Democrats, Gore, yellow, mealy mouth Democrats in that order. TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #45

If you blame Nader, you legitmize Bush. morningfog Jun 2014 #46

Would you extend that principle? Jim Lane Jul 2014 #113

All of those things are irrelevant when the critical point is aknowledged: Gore won. morningfog Jul 2014 #116

I try to pre-empt the "but Gore won!" response Jim Lane Jul 2014 #117

I don't think I can say but-for Nader, Gore would have won. morningfog Jul 2014 #121

the American sheeple reddread Jul 2014 #48

Gore may not have became president but he did win damnedifIknow Jul 2014 #49

Fuck Ralph Nader whatchamacallit Jul 2014 #50

Katharine Harris and Jeb Bush paying Diebold $4 million to cleanse the voter rolls of minorties Tony_FLADEM Jul 2014 #51

If Democrats keep focusing on the past Jenoch Jul 2014 #52

Jeb Bush, who refused a state wide recount Warpy Jul 2014 #53

In the end, it was Gore's fault BillZBubb Jul 2014 #60

It's the politicians job to convince voters to vote for him/her. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #61

After re-watching George Carlin: Jammin' in New York, I wonder if he voted Nader in 2000? Electric Monk Jul 2014 #67

While other people had an effect, Nader was the single progressive with the greatest pnwmom Jul 2014 #68

i blame bill bradley. the gnewz media, AND nader. pansypoo53219 Jul 2014 #70

It was Bush. mattclearing Jul 2014 #71

Am I the only person on this forum who remembers the PMRC? beerandjesus Jul 2014 #73

Where's Choicepoint? lame54 Jul 2014 #74

SCOTUS and all the Republican voters who stacked that court. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #75

how about the damn media? ragging on gore's sighs and sweaters and supposed "lies"? unblock Jul 2014 #76

That's a good point MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #77

oh, they were so tough on shrub. the teetotaler you'd love to have a beer with! unblock Jul 2014 #80

Thank you! Punkingal Jul 2014 #92

the media was complicit noiretextatique Jul 2014 #124

Seeing how Gore really won Florida, the Supreme Court is the only logical answer! B Calm Jul 2014 #78

I blame the Democratic reviewers who approved the wonky design of the Palm Beach ballot LonePirate Jul 2014 #79

but even with all the dirty shenanigans that went on in Florida, Gore still had more votes. B Calm Jul 2014 #82

The SC would never had intervened as there would have been no month long recount LonePirate Jul 2014 #83

There are a lot of different angles and reasons to blame, but B Calm Jul 2014 #85

Supreme Court. It was not Nader... truth2power Jul 2014 #81

You should have also included the spinless Dems in Congress as an option...nt joeybee12 Jul 2014 #84

Florida cronies Aerows Jul 2014 #87

Diebold Indicted: Its spectre still haunts Ohio elections mia Jul 2014 #95

climate change ? NM_Birder Jul 2014 #96

Jeb and Harris--but the people blaming Nader KNOW that, as much as Rummy and Cheneybeast MisterP Jul 2014 #98

Nader , theft, and the Gore campaign. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #99

It was your fault, Manny. MineralMan Jul 2014 #100

When did the OP ever do that? KamaAina Jul 2014 #104

It's obvious to anyone who *really* pays attention MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #109

The Mineral Manny sig is creepy HangOnKids Jul 2014 #111

Is this my fault, too? MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #110

Sandra Day O'Connor in particular El Supremo Jul 2014 #106

chad, nader, then Peggy Noonan and Tweety bigtree Jul 2014 #114

I refused to select because trying to name one is comparing apples and oranges. Jim Lane Jul 2014 #115

Just so no one gets confused... Oakenshield Jul 2014 #122

SCOTUS deserves ALL the blame noiretextatique Jul 2014 #123

You need a Jeb AND Supreme Court option yurbud Jul 2014 #125

It was my fault... kentuck Jul 2014 #126

three words tip it Jeb: FELON VOTER PURGE of 82,389 mostly black voters yurbud Jul 2014 #128

I will never forgive Nader RandySF Jul 2014 #129

Plenty of blame to go around. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2014 #131

Many reasons, but ultimately Al Gore. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #132

Wow, more blame for Gore than Nader. joshcryer Jul 2014 #136

Why is this a surprise? I expected this outcome.... socialist_n_TN Jul 2014 #137

DU was created due to Gore being sabotaged! joshcryer Jul 2014 #138

Who's placing most of the blame on Gore? Not this poll...... socialist_n_TN Jul 2014 #139