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stranger81

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17. This is so much bullshit.

Tue Jul 29, 2014, 02:11 AM

Jul 2014

That anyone could honestly believe that what's driving Palestinian rage at the moment is not the massive body count, not the 80% civilian death toll -- which is clearly indicative of Israel's intent, not the entire families wiped out by missiles and bombs -- 52 of of them so far and counting. Not the siege, not the embargos, not the settlements, not the new buffer zone occupying 44% of Gaza's real estate. Not the dead children. Almost 250 of them now. Not the massive numbers of gravely wounded, last time I saw approaching nearly 7,000. Not the 180,000 people displaced from their homes.

No, it's just stubbornly irrational Palestinian pride. That's all.

Do you have any idea how racist that sounds?

Any idea at all?

Do you care?

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Both right. Both wrong. But only one really bears responsibility. [View all] MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 OP

Very good post Manny! BillZBubb Jul 2014 #1

Actually, many people have tried various ways to make peace between the JDPriestly Jul 2014 #11

Actually, you are totally wrong. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #36

Actually, you are totally wrong elias7 Jul 2014 #38

Nope, I'm correct. Perhaps you might actually list your disagreements? BillZBubb Jul 2014 #40

What is the link to your source for your statements? JDPriestly Jul 2014 #56

There's no quick solution. MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #46

Thanks. Good ideas. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #55

Manny bigtree Jul 2014 #2

K&R. I agree. But it would help if incremental steps were more rewarded. Bonobo Jul 2014 #3

It can't. Because the war is not just about territory. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #14

This is so much bullshit. stranger81 Jul 2014 #17

Palestinians have had many chances to achiever a two-state solution. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #18

Did you even read my post? Or perhaps this was meant as a reply to someone else? stranger81 Jul 2014 #25

+1000 noiretextatique Jul 2014 #57

Totally untrue. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #41

They don't just want the key parts. stranger81 Jul 2014 #51

One question... xocet Jul 2014 #24

It isn't about Pride, it is about an illegal occupation. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #37

And here. sheshe2 Jul 2014 #4

Agreed. elzenmahn Jul 2014 #5

Great post Mr. MGoldstein defacto7 Jul 2014 #6

Your post is excellent too. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #10

Thanks JDP defacto7 Jul 2014 #15

??? MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #45

K and R azurnoir Jul 2014 #7

K&R ReRe Jul 2014 #8

I agree with your analysis of the status quo, but not with your proposal for a solution. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #9

Baloney: "Palestine does not want the presence of Israel in the area" BillZBubb Jul 2014 #39

I think you're being a bit harsh here. MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #48

The PLO is only one part of the equation. BobbyBoring Jul 2014 #58

K&R Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #12

K&R.... daleanime Jul 2014 #13

This is the best OP about this horrible situation that I have senseandsensibility Jul 2014 #16

I can't believe this shit ! jaysunb Jul 2014 #19

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #20

K&R DeSwiss Jul 2014 #21

The tragedy war is started even before 'we' talked... Amonester Jul 2014 #62

ty MFM008 Jul 2014 #22

Let's do a thought experiment. BlueCheese Jul 2014 #23

there would be people on both sides who would not be happy JI7 Jul 2014 #26

You're right. And I think Manny's right, too. nt BlueCheese Jul 2014 #27

Here I go agreeing with Regular Manny. bravenak Jul 2014 #28

please. palestinians have no responsibility for their circumstances? not. nt TheFrenchRazor Jul 2014 #29

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #30

Thank you, Manny Warpy Jul 2014 #31

And creating more Hamas supporters justiceischeap Jul 2014 #43

I would not call that a "peaceful" outcome. stranger81 Jul 2014 #52

Which is why "peacefully" was in quotes justiceischeap Jul 2014 #53

NO. This is an ethnic cleansing. Fuck that "both sides are to blame" bullshit (n/t) CrawlingChaos Jul 2014 #32

isn't the palestinian population rising ? JI7 Jul 2014 #33

Give them another few years CrawlingChaos Jul 2014 #34

Do you even have a clue what ethnic cleansing is? BillZBubb Jul 2014 #42

As always, a pleasure. nt LittleBlue Jul 2014 #35

Highly Recommended. Dragonfli Jul 2014 #44

hear hear snagglepuss Jul 2014 #47

Bravo, Bodhisattva Goldstein. Zorra Jul 2014 #49

Palestinian State?? Martin Eden Jul 2014 #50

k/r - but I'll never 840high Jul 2014 #54

TOTALLY AGREE! n/t ChiciB1 Jul 2014 #59

Manny - fantastic post and I completely agree with you. Avalux Jul 2014 #60

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #61

+1!!! People should try to put themselves in both sides shoes. Pretend you are an Israeli, with Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #63

Thanks, Manny! I always... PosterChild Jul 2014 #64

If I have this right... New Orleans Strong Jul 2014 #65

AND to clarify New Orleans Strong Jul 2014 #66

I hate to kibbitz, but... MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #67