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98. The US gets nothing but aggravation from their "friendship" with Israel

Sat Aug 2, 2014, 01:46 PM

Aug 2014

The sight of Netanyahu makes me sick. The amount of US TV time he gets is sickening. The way Congress reacted to him visiting, how they were practically drooling and rolled out the red carpet for him, made me want to vomit.

I want to be clear. I think Israel has every right to defend itself, Hamas is about nothing but destruction. I do not think Hamas cares at all about its own people, I think they are willing to die for their cause and willing for their children to die, and Israel is willing to accommodate them and I don't blame Israel for that! Who would put up with rockets being fired into their country constantly? I don't have a problem with the US supplying Israel with weapons.

My problem is the BLATANT disrespect Israelis are showing for the US. Their govt is spitting on ours. They totally insult and completely disrespect us. We are nothing but a tool for them, and that was made clear by the way Congress reacted to N's visit. Israel is not our friend. What do we get from this "friendship"? Nothing but hate from others in the world. Israel is not poor. Why can't they buy our weapons with their money? I'm sure if we did not sell them weapons, they'd get it from someone else, like France. Why do my tax dollars go to support Israel? It's one thing to give money to some poor country for aid like food, I support that.

If a friend who is otherwise friendless asks for your support and money which you give them, and then spits at you and insults you in front of others, would you stay friends with them? If you do, this "friend" will only come to hate you and be contemptuous of you. I have no doubt that in the future, if the US needs Israeli support for something, but it is not in Israel's interest to support the US, Israel will not come through. Israel knows they have Congress by the balls with their lobbyists. I feel like the US is a slave to Israel and I really don't understand it.

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Netanyahu to US "Don't ever second guess me on Hamas again" [View all] whathehell Aug 2014 OP

I Agree, Ma'am: That Is Intolerable The Magistrate Aug 2014 #1

Yes. I agree. hlthe2b Aug 2014 #3

Thank you, Sir. whathehell Aug 2014 #7

How fast do you think Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #14

You Cannot Allow Yourself To Be Spoken To Like That, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #18

Magistrate, are you Jewish Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #37

So You Are On The 'Only A Jew Can Know' Tack, Sir? The Magistrate Aug 2014 #50

I never implied I was the only Jew Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #58

I Will Do You The Courtesy, Sir, of Pretending You Actually Did Misunderstand My Words The Magistrate Aug 2014 #73

I’m a Jew and just posted this on another thread. Have had a few negative replies claiming that busterbrown Aug 2014 #121

That Is an Extremely Biased, Highly Slanted Account, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #134

Actually, her account is pretty spot on Alameda Aug 2014 #164

Only If You Do Not Know Much About It, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #168

I know a great deal about it, have been watching and studying it for 50 years......so.... Alameda Aug 2014 #170

If You Say So, Sir.... The Magistrate Aug 2014 #172

Huh???!!! Alameda Aug 2014 #173

It Is An Exercise In Cherry-Picking, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #176

Your point? Alameda Aug 2014 #183

The Point, Sir, Is The Character Of A Particular Piece Of Writing The Magistrate Aug 2014 #184

Well Sir, I was right Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #138

Who's this 'group of people'? The Palestinian people? n/t Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #153

You Would Do Well To Write This Effort Off as A Failure, Sir, And Move On To Other Lines The Magistrate Aug 2014 #161

I never said Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #261

Your Problem, Sir, Is That You are Speaking To a Man With An Excellent Command Of English The Magistrate Aug 2014 #267

Not my problem at all Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #268

Thank You For The Laugh, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #269

Seriously Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #270

And Yet You Keep Coming Back, Sir.... The Magistrate Aug 2014 #271

You make me laugh Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #272

You Need To Write Your Own Material, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #273

Withe recent editorial pulled that rationalized justifiable genocide on Palestinians... cascadiance Aug 2014 #166

No, I think you're wrong..I think the Palestinians now know that whathehell Aug 2014 #245

Can you show me another group Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #262

I think so, though I'm not sure how relevant that is to your argument, given present circumstances. whathehell Aug 2014 #274

On a world wide level Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #275

On a 'world wide level", your conclusion doesn't work whathehell Aug 2014 #276

You confused the hell out of me until I figured out this sentence is missing a negative-- Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #79

I was hoping that is what he meant.. defacto7 Aug 2014 #84

ah yup..... dhill926 Aug 2014 #152

Half the posts on DU Aerows Aug 2014 #193

Me too arikara Aug 2014 #177

C'mon LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #159

So then you have to ask yourself Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #210

Way way back in the 1980's, Sen Charles Percy of Illinois truedelphi Aug 2014 #104

It is interesting that you would state something like this. BlueMTexpat Aug 2014 #32

Exactly right. nt SunSeeker Aug 2014 #194

So what you are advocating is that we remain silent on wrong doing, for the worst of sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #41

This... malokvale77 Aug 2014 #129

+1000 spooky3 Aug 2014 #214

I hope you're not saying Jews are single-issue voters on Israel n/t Scootaloo Aug 2014 #53

I trust you do realize that if critics of the state of Israel were to say what you have just Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #61

BINGO! mazzarro Aug 2014 #132

With post hidden, and probably PPRed. Crunchy Frog Aug 2014 #224

Iamthetruth cleary believes that a cabal of rich Jews will break the Democratic Party if Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #227

Are you saying that support of Israel is necessary in order to get campaign money from American Jews tularetom Aug 2014 #64

YOU WILL FEEL OUR POWER!!!! shaayecanaan Aug 2014 #199

Wow, we agree on something n/t Scootaloo Aug 2014 #52

thank you Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #68

THIS^^^^!!! Who the hell is he to tell us what to do or what to think? calimary Aug 2014 #70

Arrogant asshole Aerows Aug 2014 #133

Yes, Agree (nt) reACTIONary Aug 2014 #171

Exactly. He is not very good at winning hearts and minds to say the least. That is OUR president he jwirr Aug 2014 #230

One can only hope at this point. +1. n/t Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #240

We are his puppet Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #2

But WHY? whathehell Aug 2014 #9

That is THE question, why is Israel's rwing allowed to call the shots. JaydenD Aug 2014 #12

it could be they know where the our bodies are buried over there yurbud Aug 2014 #91

That. AND the fact... ReRe Aug 2014 #165

The number was 800 nuclear missiles several years ago. 2banon Aug 2014 #187

Thank you... ReRe Aug 2014 #190

Israel denies the existence of nuclear weapons, and refuses inspection, refuses to sign agreements 2banon Aug 2014 #191

A+++++ ReRe Aug 2014 #195

It's perfectly understandable.. 2banon Aug 2014 #218

The interview with Amy Goodman... ReRe Aug 2014 #252

We've created a monster treestar Aug 2014 #264

Those aren't a threat to us. yurbud Aug 2014 #200

How so? ReRe Aug 2014 #201

Remember mutually assured destruction? yurbud Aug 2014 #248

Oh yeah... I remember. ReRe Aug 2014 #257

Other countries leaders might not care if we live or die, but they care if they do yurbud Aug 2014 #260

This is part of the problem malaise Aug 2014 #238

They have lots of bodies of their own to worry about, don't they? whathehell Aug 2014 #244

True malaise Aug 2014 #249

Yep whathehell Aug 2014 #253

Welcome to DU, JaydenD! calimary Aug 2014 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author AndyTiedye Aug 2014 #162

The control of local and state politics trumps the federal. olegramps Aug 2014 #203

I remember that. I remember how ralph reed the extremist religious activist calimary Aug 2014 #231

They are not only radical, but exclusionary. olegramps Aug 2014 #235

Those folks literally scare the bejeezus outta me. calimary Aug 2014 #242

Yes, that is the question that needs to be answered. If any other head of state were sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #178

the evangelicals on the right will support him no matter what and the left has no balls dembotoz Aug 2014 #76

The left has balls, but the ELECTED "left" is corrupt. Lots of the aid goes to big business. nt stillwaiting Aug 2014 #118

in the past, they have apparently threatened to take down the west if they don't get their way magical thyme Aug 2014 #117

Israel has threatened to "take down" the West? whathehell Aug 2014 #140

I haven't been able to find the original article I saw, but here is another one magical thyme Aug 2014 #144

Hundreds of nukes? ReRe Aug 2014 #167

I'm betting we have more. n/t whathehell Aug 2014 #206

True JAbuchan08 Aug 2014 #212

True, but do you really think Israel would threaten us?..who's going whathehell Aug 2014 #247

Mostly I think Israel's nukes are meant to act as a deterrent JAbuchan08 Aug 2014 #277

You're probably right. n/t whathehell Aug 2014 #278

The source of the bold quote in the above post is... reACTIONary Aug 2014 #175

There have been many, many, documents and reports leaked to the press 2banon Aug 2014 #189

I don't think there is any doubt about... reACTIONary Aug 2014 #232

Google "Samson Option". nt Buns_of_Fire Aug 2014 #188

That is absolutely ridiculous. As well as impossible... reACTIONary Aug 2014 #174

Makes them more like the Soviets of old than any "ally" treestar Aug 2014 #266

Because Democrats are afraid to lose Jewish support in the US. fbc Aug 2014 #142

A week or so a go, DU was informed that Israel receives funding from the EU as well 2banon Aug 2014 #186

No, it's not a puppet thing. Here's a quick analogy that struck me about the US/Israel relationship. Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #155

He may well live to regret that demand. MineralMan Aug 2014 #4

I certainly hope so. whathehell Aug 2014 #11

Our President is Black, to some people that means you can talk down to him.. randys1 Aug 2014 #48

I was about to say the same thing....Netanyahu VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #63

Yep... randys1 Aug 2014 #216

Bibi is a straight up-in your face arrogant RACIST.. 2banon Aug 2014 #220

What a cheap, thoughtless remark rudolph the red Aug 2014 #196

yes indeed, what Netanyahu said was exactly that randys1 Aug 2014 #217

Two old proverbs malaise Aug 2014 #5

He's their Bush PAProgressive28 Aug 2014 #6

So it seems.. whathehell Aug 2014 #8

Keep in mind the massive influx of Jews from former SSRs to Israel since 1989. BlueMTexpat Aug 2014 #43

I think that is prettty simple. potone Aug 2014 #67

No we didn't passiveporcupine Aug 2014 #125

The US did rally around Bush. You and I may not have, but the rest of the country did Patiod Aug 2014 #211

More like their Cheney. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #45

I agree, sabrina, Netanyahu and Cheney are two political clones. n/t Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #130

yes exactly... Dick & Bibi 2banon Aug 2014 #222

Whatever happened to Swampy? Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #237

I think of Cheney when I think of Bibi 2banon Aug 2014 #221

Obama to Netanyahu.. fuck off asshole, I do what I need to do, get a job and support your own wars. Autumn Aug 2014 #10

I Love It! whathehell Aug 2014 #15

Obama is an important leader of the free world. He does not have to tolerate Autumn Aug 2014 #54

lol nt m-lekktor Aug 2014 #47

but Obama isn't saying anything like that. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2014 #99

That's where a girl can dream part came in. Autumn Aug 2014 #114

Dream on, but instead Obama will sign that $225 military aid bill to Israel that totodeinhere Aug 2014 #182

What bothers you more Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #13

"He was elected by the Israeli people, not the American people" ... Spazito Aug 2014 #21

I'm pretty sure he does not come hat in hand Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #25

Yes, he does, he comes to the US to lobby for that money and does it on a regular... Spazito Aug 2014 #35

I agree 100% Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #40

President Obama doesn't care for Netanyahu, you are conflating his tense relationship with... Spazito Aug 2014 #49

Oh I understand the concept Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #57

I don't buy into 'you have to be Jewish to understand' at all, ties to one's country no matter... Spazito Aug 2014 #60

The Problem With That Boiler-Plate, Sir, Is This The Magistrate Aug 2014 #66

Yes, I agree. potone Aug 2014 #77

What a load of crap... malokvale77 Aug 2014 #135

You Do Not Seem To Have Much Understanding Of Our Politics, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #42

Welcome to DU, Iamthetruth! calimary Aug 2014 #86

So one question, if you don't mind... ablamj Aug 2014 #105

Well, first of all, welcome to DU to YOU, TOO, ablamj! calimary Aug 2014 #112

Fuck that shit malokvale77 Aug 2014 #131

Yup, so let him get his money from THEM. n/t whathehell Aug 2014 #31

That right-wing mass murderer can stand up to America all he wants Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #22

Mass Murderer???? Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #26

I have been very harshly critical of Obama's drone policy Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #39

they must be geniuses at using their own people since the Israelis kill so many of them yurbud Aug 2014 #23

Where you has outraged Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #30

Pro-Likud propaganda. Maedhros Aug 2014 #102

Truth hurt Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #263

I was 5 and 12 then. Also, does the fact that others killed Palestinians make it justifiable now? yurbud Aug 2014 #115

Good argument there malokvale77 Aug 2014 #145

What it proves Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #265

You've created a false binary situation.. whathehell Aug 2014 #24

Netanyahu thinks he is a puppet master PatSeg Aug 2014 #55

And, Bibi generously commits war crimes to give Hamas good PR. Right? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #34

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #36

The question I have for you and every other person louis-t Aug 2014 #38

And Obama was elected by the American people, not the Israeli people. So what is your sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #51

Have you thought about going to Gaza and living under constant threat? intaglio Aug 2014 #75

Let the Israeli people, who elected Netanyahu, pay for his massacres. Not us. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #90

Great - so gaspee Aug 2014 #107

he admitted Israel was not under threat when Planes were suspended from landing there JI7 Aug 2014 #143

He can do what he wants LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #163

How many allies talk to us like this? yurbud Aug 2014 #16

NONE...and what allies does Israel have besides the US? whathehell Aug 2014 #29

Ask Noriega how well that goes over. Jeff Murdoch Aug 2014 #56

Good point. calimary Aug 2014 #88

Explain, please. whathehell Aug 2014 #246

It can only happen when leaders of major Jewish organizations give the government cover yurbud Aug 2014 #89

Trujillo used to MisterP Aug 2014 #81

The guy whose plane blew up? yurbud Aug 2014 #87

that's Torrijos (or maybe Roldós) MisterP Aug 2014 #92

that sounds like an excuse not a reason. Elsewhere, Americans can be raped and killed yurbud Aug 2014 #94

That in fact... malokvale77 Aug 2014 #146

Two points: Our money + our weapons/ammo mean we get some say TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #17

Fine, Bibi, sadoldgirl Aug 2014 #19

+1,0000 n/t whathehell Aug 2014 #27

Exactly raindaddy Aug 2014 #46

Good analogy malokvale77 Aug 2014 #148

He is an evil, evil person Marrah_G Aug 2014 #20

I don't believe he is. He's head of a small country in a volatile region that has TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #28

His brother was killed rescuing the Entebbe passengers in Uganda. Care to guess the perpetrators? WinkyDink Aug 2014 #71

So? malokvale77 Aug 2014 #151

there's a whole mess of wrong to spread among both sides of this conflict. it's hardly one-sided unblock Aug 2014 #33

"Blaming Netanyahu for his choice of words is a very petty thing to compalin" about whathehell Aug 2014 #116

sure, go ahead and ignore the fact that he's right. unblock Aug 2014 #119

No, sorry, I don't see a lot of support for that "fact" here. whathehell Aug 2014 #139

i have no loyalty at all to netanyahu. i'm not a fan of the right-wing either here or there. unblock Aug 2014 #149

LOL...You've been defending his arrogant, disrespectful comments whathehell Aug 2014 #156

good god, commenting on one comment and suddenly i'm disloyal to america? unblock Aug 2014 #160

Um, I believe it's two and it's the content, not the number. whathehell Aug 2014 #207

I do not think that it is... malokvale77 Aug 2014 #154

"he said hamas wouldn't stick to a cease-fire and he turned out to be right." Alkene Aug 2014 #181

Hilarious 2banon Aug 2014 #137

Isn't it? whathehell Aug 2014 #141

yeah, funny line. nothing to do with my post, but funny line. unblock Aug 2014 #147

It has everything to do with your post malokvale77 Aug 2014 #157

Abducting an israeli soldier? arikara Aug 2014 #185

Maybe it's time to go outside and play Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #44

He is as arrogant as a person could ever be. nt ladjf Aug 2014 #59

I agree. Arrogance. Sienna86 Aug 2014 #62

All Americans = Pot (calling....) WinkyDink Aug 2014 #65

True abelenkpe Aug 2014 #83

Bibi, you baby butcher, rateyes Aug 2014 #69

Did Israelis invent the suicide bomber? WinkyDink Aug 2014 #72

did the 4 dead boys on the beach vote for hamas? frylock Aug 2014 #82

What conceivable difference does that make? tkmorris Aug 2014 #108

the suicide bomber was born out of totally assymmetrical warfare magical thyme Aug 2014 #122

No, but neither did the Palestinians... Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #197

What does that have to do with Bibi's atrocities? rateyes Aug 2014 #236

This arrogant little fuckwit hifiguy Aug 2014 #74

He's the "Effing" maxrandb Aug 2014 #78

The teabaggers have more respect for ANY of our enemies than for the President.. Hulk Aug 2014 #85

Putin has met his match... Hulk Aug 2014 #80

He is becoming Joe Pesci in Goodfellas. yurbud Aug 2014 #93

TOTALLY agree!! LoisB Aug 2014 #95

And could we please tell Netanyahu Stellar Aug 2014 #97

The US gets nothing but aggravation from their "friendship" with Israel donna123 Aug 2014 #98

I couldn't resist looking at Free Republic response to this story yurbud Aug 2014 #100

Exactly n/t 99Forever Aug 2014 #101

Who needs to second guess? See hospitals, schools, Mosques, for evidence of what he'll do. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #103

Criticizing Israeli policies is no more anti-Semitic than... Beartracks Aug 2014 #106

Just wait until cheap Teslas take over Helen Borg Aug 2014 #109

I agree! n/t Paper Roses Aug 2014 #110

Maybe Netanyahu has a brain tumor or something. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #111

I feel so bad for the people TBF Aug 2014 #113

His bought and paid for lackeys in Congress will keep sending him our tax $$$ MH1 Aug 2014 #120

Our pro Israel government will keep kissing his ass because Cleita Aug 2014 #123

He knows he owns us n2doc Aug 2014 #124

OK,will not. 7wo7rees Aug 2014 #126

He is still upset Rmoney was not elected. gordianot Aug 2014 #127

I'm in agreement malokvale77 Aug 2014 #128

Make that 3.5 billion, we give money to Palestine too, but theirs cannot be spent militarily. nt mother earth Aug 2014 #136

Oh, well that's very "fair" then, isn't it? whathehell Aug 2014 #158

Nothing fair at all about aiding and abetting death and destruction. Isn't or shouldn't peace mother earth Aug 2014 #234

Nope..What have we become?..Big Toadies, it seems, whathehell Aug 2014 #243

Cut 'em off. Iggo Aug 2014 #150

K&R ReRe Aug 2014 #169

Unbelievable disrespect for not only our President but our nation. The disrespect to our President kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #179

K&R DeSwiss Aug 2014 #180

I would never second guess Aerows Aug 2014 #192

It's incredibly disrespectful, imo... Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #198

Mr. Netanyahu, you all have earned this quote to be added lexington filly Aug 2014 #202

Netanyahu can take a flying fuck in a rolling donut. blackspade Aug 2014 #204

LOL whathehell Aug 2014 #205

Thanks for this explanation... KansDem Aug 2014 #208

Your welcome, and your analogy is spot on. n/t whathehell Aug 2014 #219

Fuck that jerk. Oh, and it's 3 Billion per annum, not 2. nt NorthCarolina Aug 2014 #209

Eat my shit Bibi...good luck on your own punk. Moostache Aug 2014 #213

He suffers from delusions of adequacy. riqster Aug 2014 #215

Who the FUCK does he think we are, his PUPPETS? LWolf Aug 2014 #223

My sentiments exactly... whathehell Aug 2014 #225

Congress wouldn't allow it. It is true we give Billions to Israel annually, BUT NorthCarolina Aug 2014 #228

Congress needs to hear from us, then..They're supposed to work for US, not whathehell Aug 2014 #241

Israel's problem with the Palestinians has been going on long before Hamas even existed Galraedia Aug 2014 #226

US ambassador to Israel seems to be Israeli govt rep donna123 Aug 2014 #229

You saw this interview with Fareed Zakaria on CNN International today? whathehell Aug 2014 #239

why DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #233

I get what you're saying.. whathehell Aug 2014 #255

You make some excellent points, DonCoquixote. whathehell Aug 2014 #258

Looking for that blank check Shankapotomus Aug 2014 #250

Damned right.. whathehell Aug 2014 #254

We should be second guessing all leaders, on all things. noamnety Aug 2014 #251

What a rude, ungrateful and disrespectful thing to say ecstatic Aug 2014 #256

Well, Bibi has lost Joe Scar on the current situation. amandabeech Aug 2014 #259