Actually, her account is pretty spot on (Reply #164)

In the discussion thread: Netanyahu to US "Don't ever second guess me on Hamas again" [View all]

Sat Aug 2, 2014, 09:38 PM

Alameda (1,895 posts)

164. Actually, her account is pretty spot on

of course the history of the Levant is complicated and would take volumes to go over, but she has trimmed it down quite well. There really is no one liner to explain the history of the area. One thing is for sure though is the fact that Isreal has ignored international law over and over and over again. They have ignored the Geneva convention over and over many times.

FWIW.....there even has been evidence of Neanderthal and Cro-magnon habitation.

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Netanyahu to US "Don't ever second guess me on Hamas again" [View all]	whathehell	Aug 2014	OP
I Agree, Ma'am: That Is Intolerable	The Magistrate	Aug 2014	#1
Yes. I agree.	hlthe2b	Aug 2014	#3
Thank you, Sir.	whathehell	Aug 2014	#7
How fast do you think	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#14
You Cannot Allow Yourself To Be Spoken To Like That, Sir	The Magistrate	Aug 2014	#18
Magistrate, are you Jewish	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#37
So You Are On The 'Only A Jew Can Know' Tack, Sir?	The Magistrate	Aug 2014	#50
I never implied I was the only Jew	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#58
I Will Do You The Courtesy, Sir, of Pretending You Actually Did Misunderstand My Words	The Magistrate	Aug 2014	#73
I’m a Jew and just posted this on another thread. Have had a few negative replies claiming that	busterbrown	Aug 2014	#121
That Is an Extremely Biased, Highly Slanted Account, Sir	The Magistrate	Aug 2014	#134
Actually, her account is pretty spot on	Alameda	Aug 2014	#164
Only If You Do Not Know Much About It, Sir	The Magistrate	Aug 2014	#168
I know a great deal about it, have been watching and studying it for 50 years......so....	Alameda	Aug 2014	#170
If You Say So, Sir....	The Magistrate	Aug 2014	#172
Huh???!!!	Alameda	Aug 2014	#173
It Is An Exercise In Cherry-Picking, Sir	The Magistrate	Aug 2014	#176
Your point?	Alameda	Aug 2014	#183
The Point, Sir, Is The Character Of A Particular Piece Of Writing	The Magistrate	Aug 2014	#184
Well Sir, I was right	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#138
Who's this 'group of people'? The Palestinian people? n/t	Violet_Crumble	Aug 2014	#153
You Would Do Well To Write This Effort Off as A Failure, Sir, And Move On To Other Lines	The Magistrate	Aug 2014	#161
I never said	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#261
Your Problem, Sir, Is That You are Speaking To a Man With An Excellent Command Of English	The Magistrate	Aug 2014	#267
Not my problem at all	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#268
Thank You For The Laugh, Sir	The Magistrate	Aug 2014	#269
Seriously	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#270
And Yet You Keep Coming Back, Sir....	The Magistrate	Aug 2014	#271
You make me laugh	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#272
You Need To Write Your Own Material, Sir	The Magistrate	Aug 2014	#273
Withe recent editorial pulled that rationalized justifiable genocide on Palestinians...	cascadiance	Aug 2014	#166
No, I think you're wrong..I think the Palestinians now know that	whathehell	Aug 2014	#245
Can you show me another group	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#262
I think so, though I'm not sure how relevant that is to your argument, given present circumstances.	whathehell	Aug 2014	#274
On a world wide level	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#275
On a 'world wide level", your conclusion doesn't work	whathehell	Aug 2014	#276
You confused the hell out of me until I figured out this sentence is missing a negative--	Jackpine Radical	Aug 2014	#79
I was hoping that is what he meant..	defacto7	Aug 2014	#84
ah yup.....	dhill926	Aug 2014	#152
Half the posts on DU	Aerows	Aug 2014	#193
Me too	arikara	Aug 2014	#177
C'mon	LordGlenconner	Aug 2014	#159
So then you have to ask yourself	Jackpine Radical	Aug 2014	#210
Way way back in the 1980's, Sen Charles Percy of Illinois	truedelphi	Aug 2014	#104
It is interesting that you would state something like this.	BlueMTexpat	Aug 2014	#32
Exactly right. nt	SunSeeker	Aug 2014	#194
So what you are advocating is that we remain silent on wrong doing, for the worst of	sabrina 1	Aug 2014	#41
This...	malokvale77	Aug 2014	#129
+1000	spooky3	Aug 2014	#214
I hope you're not saying Jews are single-issue voters on Israel n/t	Scootaloo	Aug 2014	#53
I trust you do realize that if critics of the state of Israel were to say what you have just	Douglas Carpenter	Aug 2014	#61
BINGO!	mazzarro	Aug 2014	#132
With post hidden, and probably PPRed.	Crunchy Frog	Aug 2014	#224
Iamthetruth cleary believes that a cabal of rich Jews will break the Democratic Party if	Douglas Carpenter	Aug 2014	#227
Are you saying that support of Israel is necessary in order to get campaign money from American Jews	tularetom	Aug 2014	#64
YOU WILL FEEL OUR POWER!!!!	shaayecanaan	Aug 2014	#199
Wow, we agree on something n/t	Scootaloo	Aug 2014	#52
thank you	Douglas Carpenter	Aug 2014	#68
THIS^^^^!!! Who the hell is he to tell us what to do or what to think?	calimary	Aug 2014	#70
Arrogant asshole	Aerows	Aug 2014	#133
Yes, Agree (nt)	reACTIONary	Aug 2014	#171
Exactly. He is not very good at winning hearts and minds to say the least. That is OUR president he	jwirr	Aug 2014	#230
One can only hope at this point. +1. n/t	Jefferson23	Aug 2014	#240
We are his puppet	Blue_Adept	Aug 2014	#2
But WHY?	whathehell	Aug 2014	#9
That is THE question, why is Israel's rwing allowed to call the shots.	JaydenD	Aug 2014	#12
it could be they know where the our bodies are buried over there	yurbud	Aug 2014	#91
That. AND the fact...	ReRe	Aug 2014	#165
The number was 800 nuclear missiles several years ago.	2banon	Aug 2014	#187
Thank you...	ReRe	Aug 2014	#190
Israel denies the existence of nuclear weapons, and refuses inspection, refuses to sign agreements	2banon	Aug 2014	#191
A+++++	ReRe	Aug 2014	#195
It's perfectly understandable..	2banon	Aug 2014	#218
The interview with Amy Goodman...	ReRe	Aug 2014	#252
We've created a monster	treestar	Aug 2014	#264
Those aren't a threat to us.	yurbud	Aug 2014	#200
How so?	ReRe	Aug 2014	#201
Remember mutually assured destruction?	yurbud	Aug 2014	#248
Oh yeah... I remember.	ReRe	Aug 2014	#257
Other countries leaders might not care if we live or die, but they care if they do	yurbud	Aug 2014	#260
This is part of the problem	malaise	Aug 2014	#238
They have lots of bodies of their own to worry about, don't they?	whathehell	Aug 2014	#244
True	malaise	Aug 2014	#249
Yep	whathehell	Aug 2014	#253
Welcome to DU, JaydenD!	calimary	Aug 2014	#96
This message was self-deleted by its author	AndyTiedye	Aug 2014	#162
The control of local and state politics trumps the federal.	olegramps	Aug 2014	#203
I remember that. I remember how ralph reed the extremist religious activist	calimary	Aug 2014	#231
They are not only radical, but exclusionary.	olegramps	Aug 2014	#235
Those folks literally scare the bejeezus outta me.	calimary	Aug 2014	#242
Yes, that is the question that needs to be answered. If any other head of state were	sabrina 1	Aug 2014	#178
the evangelicals on the right will support him no matter what and the left has no balls	dembotoz	Aug 2014	#76
The left has balls, but the ELECTED "left" is corrupt. Lots of the aid goes to big business. nt	stillwaiting	Aug 2014	#118
in the past, they have apparently threatened to take down the west if they don't get their way	magical thyme	Aug 2014	#117
Israel has threatened to "take down" the West?	whathehell	Aug 2014	#140
I haven't been able to find the original article I saw, but here is another one	magical thyme	Aug 2014	#144
Hundreds of nukes?	ReRe	Aug 2014	#167
I'm betting we have more. n/t	whathehell	Aug 2014	#206
True	JAbuchan08	Aug 2014	#212
True, but do you really think Israel would threaten us?..who's going	whathehell	Aug 2014	#247
Mostly I think Israel's nukes are meant to act as a deterrent	JAbuchan08	Aug 2014	#277
You're probably right. n/t	whathehell	Aug 2014	#278
The source of the bold quote in the above post is...	reACTIONary	Aug 2014	#175
There have been many, many, documents and reports leaked to the press	2banon	Aug 2014	#189
I don't think there is any doubt about...	reACTIONary	Aug 2014	#232
Google "Samson Option". nt	Buns_of_Fire	Aug 2014	#188
That is absolutely ridiculous. As well as impossible...	reACTIONary	Aug 2014	#174
Makes them more like the Soviets of old than any "ally"	treestar	Aug 2014	#266
Because Democrats are afraid to lose Jewish support in the US.	fbc	Aug 2014	#142
A week or so a go, DU was informed that Israel receives funding from the EU as well	2banon	Aug 2014	#186
No, it's not a puppet thing. Here's a quick analogy that struck me about the US/Israel relationship.	Violet_Crumble	Aug 2014	#155
He may well live to regret that demand.	MineralMan	Aug 2014	#4
I certainly hope so.	whathehell	Aug 2014	#11
Our President is Black, to some people that means you can talk down to him..	randys1	Aug 2014	#48
I was about to say the same thing....Netanyahu	VanillaRhapsody	Aug 2014	#63
Yep...	randys1	Aug 2014	#216
Bibi is a straight up-in your face arrogant RACIST..	2banon	Aug 2014	#220
What a cheap, thoughtless remark	rudolph the red	Aug 2014	#196
yes indeed, what Netanyahu said was exactly that	randys1	Aug 2014	#217
Two old proverbs	malaise	Aug 2014	#5
He's their Bush	PAProgressive28	Aug 2014	#6
So it seems..	whathehell	Aug 2014	#8
Keep in mind the massive influx of Jews from former SSRs to Israel since 1989.	BlueMTexpat	Aug 2014	#43
I think that is prettty simple.	potone	Aug 2014	#67
No we didn't	passiveporcupine	Aug 2014	#125
The US did rally around Bush. You and I may not have, but the rest of the country did	Patiod	Aug 2014	#211
More like their Cheney.	sabrina 1	Aug 2014	#45
I agree, sabrina, Netanyahu and Cheney are two political clones. n/t	Uncle Joe	Aug 2014	#130
yes exactly... Dick & Bibi	2banon	Aug 2014	#222
Whatever happened to Swampy?	Uncle Joe	Aug 2014	#237
I think of Cheney when I think of Bibi	2banon	Aug 2014	#221
Obama to Netanyahu.. fuck off asshole, I do what I need to do, get a job and support your own wars.	Autumn	Aug 2014	#10
I Love It!	whathehell	Aug 2014	#15
Obama is an important leader of the free world. He does not have to tolerate	Autumn	Aug 2014	#54
lol nt	m-lekktor	Aug 2014	#47
but Obama isn't saying anything like that.	Puzzledtraveller	Aug 2014	#99
That's where a girl can dream part came in.	Autumn	Aug 2014	#114
Dream on, but instead Obama will sign that $225 military aid bill to Israel that	totodeinhere	Aug 2014	#182
What bothers you more	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#13
"He was elected by the Israeli people, not the American people" ...	Spazito	Aug 2014	#21
I'm pretty sure he does not come hat in hand	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#25
Yes, he does, he comes to the US to lobby for that money and does it on a regular...	Spazito	Aug 2014	#35
I agree 100%	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#40
President Obama doesn't care for Netanyahu, you are conflating his tense relationship with...	Spazito	Aug 2014	#49
Oh I understand the concept	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#57
I don't buy into 'you have to be Jewish to understand' at all, ties to one's country no matter...	Spazito	Aug 2014	#60
The Problem With That Boiler-Plate, Sir, Is This	The Magistrate	Aug 2014	#66
Yes, I agree.	potone	Aug 2014	#77
What a load of crap...	malokvale77	Aug 2014	#135
You Do Not Seem To Have Much Understanding Of Our Politics, Sir	The Magistrate	Aug 2014	#42
Welcome to DU, Iamthetruth!	calimary	Aug 2014	#86
So one question, if you don't mind...	ablamj	Aug 2014	#105
Well, first of all, welcome to DU to YOU, TOO, ablamj!	calimary	Aug 2014	#112
Fuck that shit	malokvale77	Aug 2014	#131
Yup, so let him get his money from THEM. n/t	whathehell	Aug 2014	#31
That right-wing mass murderer can stand up to America all he wants	Bjorn Against	Aug 2014	#22
Mass Murderer????	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#26
I have been very harshly critical of Obama's drone policy	Bjorn Against	Aug 2014	#39
they must be geniuses at using their own people since the Israelis kill so many of them	yurbud	Aug 2014	#23
Where you has outraged	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#30
Pro-Likud propaganda.	Maedhros	Aug 2014	#102
Truth hurt	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#263
I was 5 and 12 then. Also, does the fact that others killed Palestinians make it justifiable now?	yurbud	Aug 2014	#115
Good argument there	malokvale77	Aug 2014	#145
What it proves	Iamthetruth	Aug 2014	#265
You've created a false binary situation..	whathehell	Aug 2014	#24
Netanyahu thinks he is a puppet master	PatSeg	Aug 2014	#55
And, Bibi generously commits war crimes to give Hamas good PR. Right?	Tierra_y_Libertad	Aug 2014	#34
Post removed	Post removed	Aug 2014	#36
The question I have for you and every other person	louis-t	Aug 2014	#38
And Obama was elected by the American people, not the Israeli people. So what is your	sabrina 1	Aug 2014	#51
Have you thought about going to Gaza and living under constant threat?	intaglio	Aug 2014	#75
Let the Israeli people, who elected Netanyahu, pay for his massacres. Not us.	Comrade Grumpy	Aug 2014	#90
Great - so	gaspee	Aug 2014	#107
he admitted Israel was not under threat when Planes were suspended from landing there	JI7	Aug 2014	#143
He can do what he wants	LordGlenconner	Aug 2014	#163
How many allies talk to us like this?	yurbud	Aug 2014	#16
NONE...and what allies does Israel have besides the US?	whathehell	Aug 2014	#29
Ask Noriega how well that goes over.	Jeff Murdoch	Aug 2014	#56
Good point.	calimary	Aug 2014	#88
Explain, please.	whathehell	Aug 2014	#246
It can only happen when leaders of major Jewish organizations give the government cover	yurbud	Aug 2014	#89
Trujillo used to	MisterP	Aug 2014	#81
The guy whose plane blew up?	yurbud	Aug 2014	#87
that's Torrijos (or maybe Roldós)	MisterP	Aug 2014	#92
that sounds like an excuse not a reason. Elsewhere, Americans can be raped and killed	yurbud	Aug 2014	#94
That in fact...	malokvale77	Aug 2014	#146
Two points: Our money + our weapons/ammo mean we get some say	TwilightGardener	Aug 2014	#17
Fine, Bibi,	sadoldgirl	Aug 2014	#19
+1,0000 n/t	whathehell	Aug 2014	#27
Exactly	raindaddy	Aug 2014	#46
Good analogy	malokvale77	Aug 2014	#148
He is an evil, evil person	Marrah_G	Aug 2014	#20
I don't believe he is. He's head of a small country in a volatile region that has	TwilightGardener	Aug 2014	#28
His brother was killed rescuing the Entebbe passengers in Uganda. Care to guess the perpetrators?	WinkyDink	Aug 2014	#71
So?	malokvale77	Aug 2014	#151
there's a whole mess of wrong to spread among both sides of this conflict. it's hardly one-sided	unblock	Aug 2014	#33
"Blaming Netanyahu for his choice of words is a very petty thing to compalin" about	whathehell	Aug 2014	#116
sure, go ahead and ignore the fact that he's right.	unblock	Aug 2014	#119
No, sorry, I don't see a lot of support for that "fact" here.	whathehell	Aug 2014	#139
i have no loyalty at all to netanyahu. i'm not a fan of the right-wing either here or there.	unblock	Aug 2014	#149
LOL...You've been defending his arrogant, disrespectful comments	whathehell	Aug 2014	#156
good god, commenting on one comment and suddenly i'm disloyal to america?	unblock	Aug 2014	#160
Um, I believe it's two and it's the content, not the number.	whathehell	Aug 2014	#207
I do not think that it is...	malokvale77	Aug 2014	#154
"he said hamas wouldn't stick to a cease-fire and he turned out to be right."	Alkene	Aug 2014	#181
Hilarious	2banon	Aug 2014	#137
Isn't it?	whathehell	Aug 2014	#141
yeah, funny line. nothing to do with my post, but funny line.	unblock	Aug 2014	#147
It has everything to do with your post	malokvale77	Aug 2014	#157
Abducting an israeli soldier?	arikara	Aug 2014	#185
Maybe it's time to go outside and play	Boom Sound 416	Aug 2014	#44
He is as arrogant as a person could ever be. nt	ladjf	Aug 2014	#59
I agree. Arrogance.	Sienna86	Aug 2014	#62
All Americans = Pot (calling....)	WinkyDink	Aug 2014	#65
True	abelenkpe	Aug 2014	#83
Bibi, you baby butcher,	rateyes	Aug 2014	#69
Did Israelis invent the suicide bomber?	WinkyDink	Aug 2014	#72
did the 4 dead boys on the beach vote for hamas?	frylock	Aug 2014	#82
What conceivable difference does that make?	tkmorris	Aug 2014	#108
the suicide bomber was born out of totally assymmetrical warfare	magical thyme	Aug 2014	#122
No, but neither did the Palestinians...	Violet_Crumble	Aug 2014	#197
What does that have to do with Bibi's atrocities?	rateyes	Aug 2014	#236
This arrogant little fuckwit	hifiguy	Aug 2014	#74
He's the "Effing"	maxrandb	Aug 2014	#78
The teabaggers have more respect for ANY of our enemies than for the President..	Hulk	Aug 2014	#85
Putin has met his match...	Hulk	Aug 2014	#80
He is becoming Joe Pesci in Goodfellas.	yurbud	Aug 2014	#93
TOTALLY agree!!	LoisB	Aug 2014	#95
And could we please tell Netanyahu	Stellar	Aug 2014	#97
The US gets nothing but aggravation from their "friendship" with Israel	donna123	Aug 2014	#98
I couldn't resist looking at Free Republic response to this story	yurbud	Aug 2014	#100
Exactly n/t	99Forever	Aug 2014	#101
Who needs to second guess? See hospitals, schools, Mosques, for evidence of what he'll do.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Aug 2014	#103
Criticizing Israeli policies is no more anti-Semitic than...	Beartracks	Aug 2014	#106
Just wait until cheap Teslas take over	Helen Borg	Aug 2014	#109
I agree! n/t	Paper Roses	Aug 2014	#110
Maybe Netanyahu has a brain tumor or something.	Enthusiast	Aug 2014	#111
I feel so bad for the people	TBF	Aug 2014	#113
His bought and paid for lackeys in Congress will keep sending him our tax $$$	MH1	Aug 2014	#120
Our pro Israel government will keep kissing his ass because	Cleita	Aug 2014	#123
He knows he owns us	n2doc	Aug 2014	#124
OK,will not.	7wo7rees	Aug 2014	#126
He is still upset Rmoney was not elected.	gordianot	Aug 2014	#127
I'm in agreement	malokvale77	Aug 2014	#128
Make that 3.5 billion, we give money to Palestine too, but theirs cannot be spent militarily. nt	mother earth	Aug 2014	#136
Oh, well that's very "fair" then, isn't it?	whathehell	Aug 2014	#158
Nothing fair at all about aiding and abetting death and destruction. Isn't or shouldn't peace	mother earth	Aug 2014	#234
Nope..What have we become?..Big Toadies, it seems,	whathehell	Aug 2014	#243
Cut 'em off.	Iggo	Aug 2014	#150
K&R	ReRe	Aug 2014	#169
Unbelievable disrespect for not only our President but our nation. The disrespect to our President	kelliekat44	Aug 2014	#179
K&R	DeSwiss	Aug 2014	#180
I would never second guess	Aerows	Aug 2014	#192
It's incredibly disrespectful, imo...	Violet_Crumble	Aug 2014	#198
Mr. Netanyahu, you all have earned this quote to be added	lexington filly	Aug 2014	#202
Netanyahu can take a flying fuck in a rolling donut.	blackspade	Aug 2014	#204
LOL	whathehell	Aug 2014	#205
Thanks for this explanation...	KansDem	Aug 2014	#208
Your welcome, and your analogy is spot on. n/t	whathehell	Aug 2014	#219
Fuck that jerk. Oh, and it's 3 Billion per annum, not 2. nt	NorthCarolina	Aug 2014	#209
Eat my shit Bibi...good luck on your own punk.	Moostache	Aug 2014	#213
He suffers from delusions of adequacy.	riqster	Aug 2014	#215
Who the FUCK does he think we are, his PUPPETS?	LWolf	Aug 2014	#223
My sentiments exactly...	whathehell	Aug 2014	#225
Congress wouldn't allow it. It is true we give Billions to Israel annually, BUT	NorthCarolina	Aug 2014	#228
Congress needs to hear from us, then..They're supposed to work for US, not	whathehell	Aug 2014	#241
Israel's problem with the Palestinians has been going on long before Hamas even existed	Galraedia	Aug 2014	#226
US ambassador to Israel seems to be Israeli govt rep	donna123	Aug 2014	#229
You saw this interview with Fareed Zakaria on CNN International today?	whathehell	Aug 2014	#239
why	DonCoquixote	Aug 2014	#233
I get what you're saying..	whathehell	Aug 2014	#255
You make some excellent points, DonCoquixote.	whathehell	Aug 2014	#258
Looking for that blank check	Shankapotomus	Aug 2014	#250
Damned right..	whathehell	Aug 2014	#254
We should be second guessing all leaders, on all things.	noamnety	Aug 2014	#251
What a rude, ungrateful and disrespectful thing to say	ecstatic	Aug 2014	#256
Well, Bibi has lost Joe Scar on the current situation.	amandabeech	Aug 2014	#259

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