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60. Prosecution isn't happening because he's still afraid. n/t

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Pres. Obama says torture happened because we were 'afraid,' ignoring those who stood up against it [View all] bigtree Aug 2014 OP

Neocons circling wagons, covering asses... n/t whatchamacallit Aug 2014 #1

Thank you for posting this pscot Aug 2014 #2

The Bush Administration had the ability to know what was torture and what was not, they choose Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #3

Salutes to those individuals. malthaussen Aug 2014 #4

it happened b/c the people doing it knew there would be zero consequences leftyohiolib Aug 2014 #5

Excellent idea. We should honor those unsung heroes, especially Joe Darby. nt SunSeeker Aug 2014 #6

Top officials of the Bush Administration approved the torture of prisoners mrdmk Aug 2014 #7

No excuse for torture, Mr. President rickyhall Aug 2014 #8

Its Shameful warrant46 Aug 2014 #37

Not "we." THEY. Why would Obama conflate us with Neocon idiots? DirkGently Aug 2014 #9

Oh, those scolds? MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #10

Those bastards! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #44

It seems that as soon as Democrats take power... kentuck Aug 2014 #11

It's called cowardice. DrBulldog Aug 2014 #17

I think it would more accurately called an "arrangement". Enthusiast Aug 2014 #38

That and "complicit" BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #42

I think it is part of both. It is certainly easier to rationalize "going along" if you are a coward. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #58

Well, when it comes to defending their country in a situation where they might get their ass shot tularetom Aug 2014 #43

Precisely. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #45

Another name that should be featured in the OP BlueMTexpat Aug 2014 #12

Beware when an organization picks you as the person to 'find out what really happened'. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #22

thanks for the addition bigtree Aug 2014 #53

The International Criminal Court at the Hague can Cyrano Aug 2014 #13

If the leader of the Democratic Party apologizes for torturers, then the Party has lost its soul BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #14

+1! SammyWinstonJack Aug 2014 #33

PLUS ONE, a whole bunch! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #35

"if torture is not a line in the sand, then I don't know what is." Enthusiast Aug 2014 #36

We cannot be Hypocrites BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #40

+ another Scuba Aug 2014 #56

And thus the biggest fraidy-cat of them all is ... DrBulldog Aug 2014 #15

Glad to see people talking about this - even if the dems TBF Aug 2014 #16

I wasn't afraid. Iggo Aug 2014 #18

Me neither Laughing Mirror Aug 2014 #25

There's a word for that. Iggo Aug 2014 #26

I wasn't either. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2014 #34

K&R Solly Mack Aug 2014 #19

if evidence of torture was released as it was happening, the Snowden haters would have been whereisjustice Aug 2014 #20

kick and rec for incredible relevance...and sadness. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2014 #21

but recognizing the real heroes shows up the torturers were deem merely overzealous in their MisterP Aug 2014 #23

"the real heroes" ...correct! G_j Aug 2014 #39

what Obama said is in fact more insidious than "they were skeert"--it's saying MisterP Aug 2014 #46

Rewards go to the mediocre and to the malicious, while the excellent and the courageous are Bluenorthwest Aug 2014 #24

anyone can strive for justice, it takes a special kind of person to justify torture whereisjustice Aug 2014 #28

Yep. Helluva job, Brownie, and suchlike. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2014 #50

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. whereisjustice Aug 2014 #27

We have seen it played out right before our eyes. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #32

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #29

DURec leftstreet Aug 2014 #30

There are probably a couple of other names that could be added to the list of those Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #31

+1 BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #41

agreed bigtree Aug 2014 #54

It wasn't fear... sendero Aug 2014 #47

The fear was discovering how many Democratic pols backed it and holding them accountable. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #48

Torture didn't happen because *we* were afraid. winter is coming Aug 2014 #49

I agree with you. Torture is a popular tool for tyrants. nm rhett o rick Aug 2014 #57

laws exist to govern behavior and set standards in precisely those circumstances.... mike_c Aug 2014 #51

Bush and Obama seem to think that cowardice is a good excuse. Vattel Aug 2014 #52

» bigtree Aug 2014 #55

The media is complicit in rendering aid to torture apologists. nilesobek Aug 2014 #59

Prosecution isn't happening because he's still afraid. n/t Orsino Aug 2014 #60