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In reply to the discussion: There is nothing wrong with Porn & Prostitution [View all]redqueen
(115,103 posts)151. That's the kind of post that gives me hope. nt
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Five Strikes within ninety days will definitely mufflle the tone, though.
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#168
From what I read it has been debunked. As you say, she may not have said those exact words.
cui bono
Aug 2014
#183
The point as I see it is to enlighten people to the nature of most porn and how it can skew one's
cui bono
Aug 2014
#192
I originally mentioned Dworkin only in the context of her ineffectual battle vs. the porn industry
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#193
The facial person also thinks "men ejaculating in womens mouths" indicates oppression.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#197
Yes, I did. Again, you seem to think that if I'm just exposed to enough supposedly self-evident
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#200
Well you mentioned something from a different post, so it didn't seem that you read what I linked to
cui bono
Aug 2014
#202
Just because someone says "this bothers me", doesn't mean they're automatically entitled to be taken
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#239
And you don't care that many people DON'T find porn degrading to women.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#278
It'd be nice if we could have these threads without the goofy armchair psychoanalysis
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#266
But you're fine with bringing up extremists who no one has quoted or is championing
cui bono
Aug 2014
#285
I dunno... While I do think "degrading" is in the eye of the beholder, I have to say
nomorenomore08
Aug 2014
#244
I think Max Hardcore is an asshole and absolutely a misogynist, but I also think he peaked
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#267
Fair enough. I realize the worst material isn't necessarily typical, though I would argue
nomorenomore08
Aug 2014
#271
And no one ever wants to talk about her alliances of convenience with right-wingers.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#242
Something like the old adage about going so far left you wind up on the right?
nomorenomore08
Aug 2014
#276
Well, obviously it's what every man who watches porn has been programmed to want.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#100
The linked author also thinks "men ejaculating in womens' mouths" indicates oppression.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#103
The documentary filmmaker you link upthread apparently considers blowjobs "degrading"
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#161
I looked at the front pages of the sites you referenced- for research, of course-
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#269
It would seem undeniable that a large portion of porn is deeply misogynistic.
Threedifferentones
Aug 2014
#132
Thank you for asking the question and looking at the larger context. excellent post. n/t
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#167
"Your father wanted you to have this, when you were old enough, but your uncle wouldn't allow it"
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#51
Consenting adults should be free to make their own decisions about their lives and bodies.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#5
define *sound mind* just for clarification, please. legal terminology?
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#169
I tell you what sound mind doesn't mean- it doesn't mean "anyone who only does what I would"
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#201
Of course they should. But that doesn't mean we can't critique the sex industry
nomorenomore08
Aug 2014
#248
Part of my problem with these discussions- and really, if there's anything more pointless than a
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#264
All very true. Really, it's more "unbridled capitalism" I have a problem with than anything.
nomorenomore08
Aug 2014
#265
i think there can be plenty wrong with it but criminalizing it is not the way to go
La Lioness Priyanka
Aug 2014
#9
Oh, you were asking why is tax it specifically added as a talking point.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Aug 2014
#34
That's how you get the people further right onboard with anything ;)
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Aug 2014
#40
so should be ban people from having mulitple sex partners even if no money changes hands?
dsc
Aug 2014
#131
So much wrong with society can be traced to poor education, or the lack of it entirely.
nomorenomore08
Aug 2014
#250
I hear you on that. I'm coming up on 3 decades myself (in October) and I already feel
nomorenomore08
Aug 2014
#257
Tying your shoes can be addictive, if you mix it with high-grade heroin.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#243
Consenting adults should be able to fuck however they want, money or no money.
phleshdef
Aug 2014
#106
I was speaking to the notion that whether its true or not that legal prostitution...
phleshdef
Aug 2014
#115
Trafficking/slavery was my only issue so I hardly see it as a mere... Strawman. Done...
seabeyond
Aug 2014
#122
Since prostitution will always exist it would probably be best if it were regulated
CBGLuthier
Aug 2014
#38
She's in favor of making it legal to sell sex, but illegal to buy it, as in Sweden.
nomorenomore08
Aug 2014
#253
Greater protections for workers. Which we need in *every* industry, not just porn.
nomorenomore08
Aug 2014
#255
I cannot for the life of me understand why any woman wants to get married.
leftyladyfrommo
Aug 2014
#218
I personally think we do a disservice to addicts when we label all potentially problematic behavior
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#56
which is pretty much exactly why I said porn addiction is between a person and their doctor.
Takket
Aug 2014
#66
This study has been posted here on DU over and over and over, yet none of you valiant anti-prudery
Squinch
Aug 2014
#55
Yes. But if a woman doesn't want other women or children to be trafficked, she's just a prude.
Squinch
Aug 2014
#133
As the snippet I posted noted. Legalization tends to increase inflows of trafficking
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#147
Your assertion that the article says that the probability of inflow is 13% is wrong.
Squinch
Aug 2014
#155
I stand corrected on that minor point. But the article does not support ANY of your points.
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#156
Oh, jeez, steven, that's pretty lame. So if you open up a huge new market for trafficked people
Squinch
Aug 2014
#157
It's not lame, it's the study you posted. They were very careful to state it that way for a reason
stevenleser
Aug 2014
#158
Absolutely. And that's not going to happen. As you say, "not in my back yard" and "not
Squinch
Aug 2014
#153
I heard iceland was going to ban all internet porn, and some people got VERY excited!
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#58
Kind of a funny picture considering he was an addict and a prostitute walked over his body
CBGLuthier
Aug 2014
#141
Yes. After all, people who donate their organs do it because they like to meet people. They're
Squinch
Aug 2014
#180
Yep. and when it comes to the safety of tobacco, I trust the RJ Reynolds company. nt
redqueen
Aug 2014
#90
I assume anyone who opposes legalizing prostitution also favors banning construction?
brooklynite
Aug 2014
#108
I was taught that when taking True/False tests that an absolute statement will usually be a False
Tuesday Afternoon
Aug 2014
#110
Not so cut and dry considering the easy access children have to it, frankly I do
AuntPatsy
Aug 2014
#111
All very nice. But when you legalize, trafficking increases. You can think in whatever terms you
Squinch
Aug 2014
#209
When you criminalize, suffering does not increase in the same way that it does when you legalize.
Squinch
Aug 2014
#220
"You should be advocating for economic justice." And in the meantime, while we wait for economic
Squinch
Aug 2014
#223
"A steady view" is one way to describe the act of facing the fact that legalization of prostitution
Squinch
Aug 2014
#225
The reality of the situation is loaded. As you can see, there is really only one choice.
Squinch
Aug 2014
#235
Have you seriously not heard the stories about GIRLS being abducted and forced into prostitution?
cui bono
Aug 2014
#173
STOP! STOP LOOOOKING AT NAKED PEOPLE HAVING SEX! STOP IT STOP IT STOPPP IT AEEEEEEE
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#177
There's no need to read the rest of the thread. That clip says everything that needs to be said!
Violet_Crumble
Aug 2014
#206
Even if both were completely free of exploitation, some would still be opposed to it.
redgreenandblue
Aug 2014
#195
Yeah. One only look at what acts are considered exploitative and degrading to see that.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#198
How would you know? Have we ever approached a condition where either was free of exploitation?
Squinch
Aug 2014
#221
There's nothing wrong with prostitution - why, wealthy women with all sorts of opportunities
hedgehog
Aug 2014
#230
I'm old fashioned, and I think the economic/exploitation problems across the board would be best
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#280
To be honest, though, some of these things have gone from pipe dreams to actual proposals
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2014
#282