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Laelth

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3. IS is still weak.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 10:33 AM
Aug 2014

It has no "official" weapons suppliers. It has no strong allies (although there's good reason to believe that it is currently backed by Saudi Arabia). It has no capital, no diplomats, no ambassadors, and has not been recognized as an independent state. That said, the leaders of IS (former Ba'athists from Saddam Hussein's regime) are intelligent and competent. They have crushed the Iraqi military in nearly every engagement. In part, this is because Donald Rumsfeld made the disastrous decision to disband the Iraqi military after we conquered Iraq. Iraq's Shiite government has a brand new military with no institutional knowledge. Their morale is abysmal. They, quite simply, don't know how to run an effective military. In fact, an Iranian has now been given control of Shiite Iraq's military because the Shiite Iraqis recognize that they have no ability to wage war with their military in its current state. The vast majority of the folks with institutional military knowledge in Iraq are Sunnis (former allies of Saddam Hussein), and they are now running the highly-effective IS military.

IS remains weak, but, as I said in the OP, IS is an existential threat that I would rather deal with now before it grows any stronger. In effect, I agree with you. IS is the real deal, and it needs to be destroyed. I don't think I am crying "wolf" when I say that.

-Laelth

Who will help the Kurds? [View all] Laelth Aug 2014 OP
Probably not so much the same people who broke Iraq but those janitors who clean up the mess. gordianot Aug 2014 #1
IS is still weak. Laelth Aug 2014 #3
ask yourself this question and answer honestly please. politicman Aug 2014 #2
I don't care which President authorized it, IronGate Aug 2014 #4
I hear you. Laelth Aug 2014 #5
thanks for your respectful answer, and heres my response. politicman Aug 2014 #8
What is the history of the Kurds that seems to end up in their being in trouble with everyone? jwirr Aug 2014 #6
They have a very interesting history, in fact. Laelth Aug 2014 #7
Agreed. I just worry that we will be there another 13 years. Also asked the question because I jwirr Aug 2014 #9
Saddam Hussein gassed them because they wanted independence. Laelth Aug 2014 #11
I am glad I asked. I now understand a lot more of what is going on. Feeling very sorry for the Kurds jwirr Aug 2014 #16
It appears that there are about 4 million Kurds in Iraq. Laelth Aug 2014 #17
Thank you. I am hoping for the best for them. These wars and the hate our world seems to jwirr Aug 2014 #18
At this point it's a low cost experiment to see if flamingdem Aug 2014 #10
No doubt. Laelth Aug 2014 #12
Who Else, Besides Americans, Are Flying Fighter Jets in Iraq? bigtree Aug 2014 #13
Turkey, Iran, Syria, and Iraq are all rightly afraid of IS. Laelth Aug 2014 #14
the US and other nations are stepping up their humanitarian aid bigtree Aug 2014 #15
I want to thank you for this excellent thread Jim Beard Aug 2014 #19
You are quite welcome. Laelth Aug 2014 #20
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